DIY "Stream" Style Pump

weegaz22,

Flow - 2 or 3 times the flow from a normal powerhead maybe more.
Flow Type - More widespread for sure, the original shoots out a stream maybe 1" around but the new style blows out a cone and gives great flow
Circulation - More circulation for sure.
Dead Spots - I think it all depends on placement but I think it helps. It takes care of the spot directly under the powerhead from the powerhead down to the sand you can see movement.
 
well i made one, and the flow of this mod,its like getting 3 powerheads in one. i made mine using a mj900 and used the gorilla glue. i made it like ejmeier did on page 7.
the only problem i need to solve is the stop. i need to locate the spot for reverse? ill get some pics up as soon as i have it done with a guard and figure out the stop. any new ideas on stopin the reverseing action?:)
 
I don't have a drill press, but when I drilled holes in PVC, I used two Tees at each end, to keep the pipe from rolling. Then I used a self-activating nail set to create a dimple for each spot that was to be drilled.

Worked nicely for my closed loop intake.
 
Do you have a picture of that I'd like to see it.

I was thinking of using a punch to dimple my holes but using a drill press its not as necessary as doing it by hand
 
ok i got the stop done . I hope it takes a lickin and keeps tickin.
I did the stop like a clutch type. you guys who did it with the stop hitting the prop, you havent hade any props break from that type mod? Ill get some pics up in a bit here. the glue on the stop is stilll dryin.
 
Sorry I haven't been responding to this thread lately. I have really been feeling under the weather. :(

Anyway, I have done some more testing and experimenting, and these are my observations, FWIW:

The placement of the intake is vital to the flow of the pump. Look at the final post by thunt (the guy who started this thread:)) and see what problem he had:
thunt said:
I seem to have come to a halt on this project. I used large dia tube to go around the propellor as a guard. When this is in place, the propellor will not spin. I can only think the tube impedes the water flow and stops the prop from spinning. As soon as I take the guard off, it spins again.
This exact same thing happened to me with my existing unit. Tim, if you are still following this thread, I think that using the original shaft of the Maxi-Jet is too short, and it can't pull in enough water from under the propeller.

When this happened to me, I could not for the life of me figure out what was wrong. Turns out that I shortened the shaft only about 1/8" to 1/4" (if I remember correctly) and this brought the propeller down closer to the body of the MJ1200. This tiny difference amounted in going from having the unit work perfectly, to shaking and sputtering and being non-functional. Note that this is even with the huge slits that I cut in the side. Its not only the size of the slits, but also the location that is important - you need enough room under the propeller so that it can pull the water in.

One other point of interest is that I think that it is still possible to do this mod with only one supported side of the titanium shaft (the stock shaft that comes with the MJ). It all has to do with stability. If you glue your airline shaft onto the magnet very straight, and if you attach the propeller on straight, you shouldn't get hardly any vibration at all. But if you trim your propeller, you ruin almost any chance of ever getting the whole thing stable. Again, the magnet is still spinning independently of the inner fixed shaft, but it is only supported on one side. Just a thought on another possible way of doing things.

I tried this for about a day and it was working fine, but I eventually took it out because it was making too much noise. (I thought it was due to the shaft vibrating, but I couldn't see it wobbling at all.) I then replaced it with my double-end support version, and even though the shaft is completely rock-solid, it is making even more noise than before! :mad: I can't figure out where the noise is coming from, I have to go shut the pump off now, it is giving me a headache....
 
ive got some pics. how do you post them o thier all in the post for people to see without haveing to click on them?
 

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any new ideas on a reverse brake? everything works but the reverse deal. i did have to make more slots in the gaurd as well.
the impeller does come out 3/16 of the housing but the flow doesnt push it out to hit the stop i made? im gonna try a stop in the gaurd but i think it would snap the propellor?
 
jayjellyfish1 said:
ok i got the stop done . I hope it takes a lickin and keeps tickin.
I did the stop like a clutch type. you guys who did it with the stop hitting the prop, you havent hade any props break from that type mod? Ill get some pics up in a bit here. the glue on the stop is stilll dryin.
I am anxious to see the propeller stop that you made. I have no idea how a clutch-type stop would work, or even what a clutch IS. :)

EDIT: Oops, just saw you posted that your plan didn't work. Sorry. I wouldn't worry about the prop breaking, it is on a magnetic shaft, and if push comes to shove, the magnet will just slide and stop spinning - either that or change directions! ;)

BTW, can Nick or anyone who has made this design with the holes drilled in the guard comment on *where* most flow is coming in? Is it closer to the back of MJ body, or up front under the propeller?

Still can't get the hum to go away. I don't have a solution for this. It really isn't that bad, but it is only about 3' away from my ears when I sleep, so it drives me crazy. Even with everything running smoothly, it still seems to make some noise.

One last little tidbit: Attached is a picture of the shaft from one of my oldest MJ1200s. It is a few years old, and still runs fine, but the shaft has been worn away much like the airline shafts that we used, though many times slower. Just goes to show, nothing lasts forever in this world....
 

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ok it works , and i think ill run it for a month and se if it stays working before i do another one of my other power heads, i think it will. it runs smooth and seams to be just a bit louder than the impellor method,just a slite hum.but for saving a ton of cash, i couldnt be happier:) i inserted a piece of hard tubeing in the frount of the gaurd for the stop and it worked perfect:D

id like to put some more pics up for you guys but how do you post them so you can see them in your post without having to click on them?
 
eric it seams like the intake flo is sucked in more from the front.i cut the slots closer up near the front but also near the back and it worked even better.
 
jayjellyfish1 - to get your pictures to appear in the text, you have to upload them to a website of some sort. Then you hit the IMG button when writing your post, and paste in the url of the picture.

But anyway, if you don't have a website to upload them to, you can use your gallery and it can double as a web-presence. Or you can just keep attaching the pics, its not that big of a deal.

What I am finding with my pump is that the intake flow is very crucial to a lot of things. It cuts down on the noise if there is a more open intake. Even the intake with the huge 3/8" slots is making some noise when I put it up against my aquarium wall because it cuts down on the flow into the pump. Also, without sufficiently sized intakes, I have found that the shaft wobbles a lot more. It seems like it has to "work" harder to suck the water in, and makes it a bit less stable.
 
heres some pics. the only yhing im going to do is redo the gaurd.
it looks ok here in these pics but i ended up puting more slots and it works great but doesnt look that sweet.so ill make a sweet looking one later on. well what do you think?
 

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