drummereef's 180g in-wall build
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drummereef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14896062#post14896062 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Do you take requests? I'd like to hear "Wipe Out" please.
Oh Geez! :lol: I made a promise never to play Wipe Out or Hot For Teacher in front of people. Broke that a long time ago. Haha!
There was a request for Madonna's Like A Prayer tonight though. Think they would notice a drummer wearing a paper bag over his head? :lol:
drummereef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14896157#post14896157 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
How about a solo ala Phil Collins & Genesis? Or a little Def Leppard perhaps.
We did Play That Funky Music instead... lame. :lol:
Electrobes
Montipora type guy
Oooo solo Phil Collins.. now THAT would be awesome! Play that funky music white boy is another classic! 
drummereef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14898635#post14898635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Electrobes
Oooo solo Phil Collins.. now THAT would be awesome! Play that funky music white boy is another classic!
Yeah but when you've played that song literally hundreds of times over the last 15 years... not so much. :lol: Phil Collins is the man, love his music and drumming.
drummereef
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UPDATE:
OK, back on track. Decided to work on the platform for the return pump tonight. I won't finish trimming it out until I've finished the plumbing design, since I don't know exactly where it will live yet. And I'll shim it up to be level with the sump platform. I'll post a pic of the latest plumbing design soon.
Here's some pics of the platform.
OK, back on track.
Decided to work on the platform for the return pump tonight. I won't finish trimming it out until I've finished the plumbing design, since I don't know exactly where it will live yet. And I'll shim it up to be level with the sump platform. I'll post a pic of the latest plumbing design soon. Here's some pics of the platform.
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drummereef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14903350#post14903350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hop
Wow, that is a lot of pump
Haha. Now I have an excuse to plumb more tanks into the system.
drummereef
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Thanks jong101. Wish it was going faster, but enjoying it none the less.
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:lol: Yeah, hopefully I won't blow anything up in the process.
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Still trying to figure the best way to plumb the system. Here's what I have so far...
I tried to incorporate as much flex pvc as possible in this design as well as sweep 90's instead of 90 elbows. The biggest concern I have is with the sanitary tee where the return for the display meets the refugium return. You can see this in the 3rd pic down. Debating if I'll get enough flow back to the refugium using this connector. And, I tried to isolate the manifold from the main return line. Hoping this will avoid some bubbles per Melev's request. Again any help is appreciated.
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Left Side
Right Side
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I tried to incorporate as much flex pvc as possible in this design as well as sweep 90's instead of 90 elbows. The biggest concern I have is with the sanitary tee where the return for the display meets the refugium return. You can see this in the 3rd pic down. Debating if I'll get enough flow back to the refugium using this connector. And, I tried to isolate the manifold from the main return line. Hoping this will avoid some bubbles per Melev's request. Again any help is appreciated.
Front
Left Side
Right Side
Top Down
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Bill14
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I'm not sure that sanitary tee will work on the return line. I think what I would do is:
- Remove the gate valve from immediately on the output of the pump.
- Replace the sanitary tee with a regular tee.
- Add gate valves on each side of the tee.
I think that should allow you to control the flow to the display and the refugium independently.
How is the new manifold design going to avoid the air issues? Is the thinking that the air will prefer to go up the plumbing so it won't go down into the manifold?
- Remove the gate valve from immediately on the output of the pump.
- Replace the sanitary tee with a regular tee.
- Add gate valves on each side of the tee.
I think that should allow you to control the flow to the display and the refugium independently.
How is the new manifold design going to avoid the air issues? Is the thinking that the air will prefer to go up the plumbing so it won't go down into the manifold?
drummereef
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Good points Bill! After looking at it again I saw a few flaws that needed to be addressed. Here's a revised version of the right side return plumbing.
Melev mentioned in a previous post whenever he turns his return pump off and on there is always trapped air that is expelled through the return plumbing. This could potentially cause problems with the reactors as the manifold is fed directly from the return pump. I thought if I were to isolate the manifold, I could turn the valve off before turning the main return pump off as to avoid pushing air through the mainifold when turning the system pump on. Almost like holding your finger on a straw to hold the liquid in. To start-up... turn the main pump on, let the bubbles escape through the system returns, then turn the manifold back on. Thoughts?
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Taqpol
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My manifold runs directly off the return pump as well, so I'm definitely following this conversation.
If you isolate the manifold from the return plumbing by closing the ball valve every time you shut off the return pump that should stop air from getting into the system, but at least in my case that makes it lose some of its functionality. In my system the return pump is plugged into my ReefKeeper 2, and every time I push a single button it turns the return pump off for ten minutes at feeding time (This is great for me, because sometimes I might have trouble remembering to turn it back on....). If every time I wanted to feed the fish I had to turn off the return pump AND reach my hand into the stand and turn a few ball valves, and then remember to turn them back on again later, I might get a little annoyed.
I wonder if they make PVC solenoid valves? Current turns off to pump and solenoid, solenoid snaps shut before water can rush back down the piping....
If you isolate the manifold from the return plumbing by closing the ball valve every time you shut off the return pump that should stop air from getting into the system, but at least in my case that makes it lose some of its functionality. In my system the return pump is plugged into my ReefKeeper 2, and every time I push a single button it turns the return pump off for ten minutes at feeding time (This is great for me, because sometimes I might have trouble remembering to turn it back on....). If every time I wanted to feed the fish I had to turn off the return pump AND reach my hand into the stand and turn a few ball valves, and then remember to turn them back on again later, I might get a little annoyed.
I wonder if they make PVC solenoid valves? Current turns off to pump and solenoid, solenoid snaps shut before water can rush back down the piping....
drummereef
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That was a concern of mine too, Taqpol. I will also be controlling the system pump off my Aquacontroller. If the lazy factor kicked in and I forget to turn the manifold back on there is a problem. You can buy electrically actuated ball valves but they are pricey, and probably very large. Here's a link.
http://www.piping.georgfischer.com/go/77B874832557B93180EDC97FF9D0882A/
Do you have a problem with air in your mainifold Taqpol? What equipment are you running on the manifold? Just wondering if it's over-thinking it a bit. There's lots of people running manifolds off their system pumps with presumably no problems.
