dsr methode + dutch synthetic reefkeeping

Good to see Martje. That instead of other people, you dont have commercial interest and that you have a lot of passion for your corals. And are willing to tell everything about the methode and not no half information to fish for costumers. Keep up the good work!
 
water exchange.

water exchange.

why is currently not well with the Coral reefs on this world.thousand of years it went well.corals are strong animals that can fit well to changed circumstances.as long as they get the time there for.when the changes go to fast they come in trouble.what has caused the Industrial revolution in hundred years.global warming,and too many negative effects to here to nominate.it went too fast corals got the change not to adapt.translate this story to the aquarium at our home.corals can get used to slow changes.but stabillity is very important.i try to keep my water stable.an aquarium should be stable just a human hard.all values are well.by a water exchange changes in values.and should i start over again the next days.and that 12 times a year.with synthetic salt from the store which is not good enough for our aqariums.
 
water values.

water values.

i holdt the following values to and stardet with weekly measurements.to see consumption by corals.that way i can in the right amount of daily dosing.
not only calsium magnesium and alkalinity.but also strontium boron iodine and potassium.boron consumes very little.like magnesium .iodine in my system 0,03 weekly.iron dosing i don t.by that connects whith phosphate.
that concerning water values.with regard to nitrate and phosphate.almost everyone needs to remove nitrate and phosphate,i need dosing.because i have a mixed reef.how is that possible.whit de way i feed the fish and corals.
quite simple .keep jour system clean.photo what i feed every day mix of brine shrimp mysis lobstereggs cyclops named everything.late at night phyton plankton.half liter.once in the week amino for buttons vitamine c.
the story continues greetings mart.
 
This is confusing.. I need to read the links posted but just wanted to say that I'm lost lol and may just be the camera but doesn't really look too spectacular to me.. Just sayin ..

But I do applaud you for taking the time to explain what's up when it's obvious others are trying to profit from it and translating it all at the same time.. Off to read the links for some reason even though I'm sure I will be sticking to my original scheduled program ;).
 
many roads lead to rome.

many roads lead to rome.

Dapg8gt said:
This is confusing.. I need to read the links posted but just wanted to say that I'm lost lol and may just be the camera but doesn't really look too spectacular to me.. Just sayin ..

But I do applaud you for taking the time to explain what's up when it's obvious others are trying to profit from it and translating it all at the same time.. Off to read the links for some reason even though I'm sure I will be sticking to my original scheduled program ;).
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that s your right to do so.if your aquarium is running well,why would jou do it differently.
 
Originally Posted by glennf View Post
... if the mayor problem is phosphate i use the a iron solution to get the phosphate down and keep it down. ...

Hello Glenn, Thanks for sharing your DSR method with others. Always appreciated! Your mention of using iron to reduce phosphate is intriguing. Would you mind sharing more details on how this works? I use bio pellets and dose nitrate to keep PO4 down around 0.06 on average. Does extra iron help to increase the bacteria count?
 
increase bacteria count.

increase bacteria count.

ReefKeeper64 said:
Originally Posted by glennf View Post
... if the mayor problem is phosphate i use the a iron solution to get the phosphate down and keep it down. ...

Hello Glenn, Thanks for sharing your DSR method with others. Always appreciated! Your mention of using iron to reduce phosphate is intriguing. Would you mind sharing more details on how this works? I use bio pellets and dose nitrate to keep PO4 down around 0.06 on average. Does extra iron help to increase the bacteria count?
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iron has no effect on bacteria.all phophate removers are based on iron binding capacity.
 
GFO (granular ferric oxide) is the only iron based phosphate "remover". There are also aluminum oxide and lanthium chloride phosphate "removers" that are commonly used in the hobby.
 
Do not be confused by the terms. Ferric oxide or iron oxide ie: GFO which is the operative term of iron which binds phosphate. Further, this Dutch system offers nothing new with regard to this mechanism.
 
Not trying to be a downer here. The tank looks attractive, but not really any more impressive than any other well maintained reef tank. From the description, it seems any time or money saved from not doing water changes is spent in closely monitoring and correcting many other system parameters.
 
has nothing to do with saving money

has nothing to do with saving money

this has nothing to do with saving money,but with stability.
a water exchange with syntetish salt, brings you system out of balance.
and what does a water exchange on ?what is the use.?
 
martje said:
this has nothing to do with saving money,but with stability.
a water exchange with syntetish salt, brings you system out of balance.
and what does a water exchange on ?what is the use.?
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I would agree that large water changes can cause some instability (especially if the change water has quite different parameters from the tank water), but smaller, more frequent changes generally do not.

Water changes allow for the removal of some pollutants and the replenishment of trace elements that may already be assimilated and unavailable via chemical and biological activity. Water changes coupled with detritus vacuuming promote a healthy system, but is not the only way as you demonstrate here.
 
martje said:
this has nothing to do with saving money,but with stability.
a water exchange with syntetish salt, brings you system out of balance.
and what does a water exchange on ?what is the use.?
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All the water in a reef tank is artificial to start with in 99% of all reef tank systems anyways, so how can a small water change put it out of balance any more than it already is?
 
Salt is inconsistent, I think maybe esv salt is the most consistent.

However, I can see the point of no water changes in a very stable mature system. Everything in synthetic sea salt is synthetic, why not just add those components in periodically as they are depleted? Water changes are highly inefficient and near useless for trace element replenishment unless you're doing very large ones. You cannot possibly replace the trace elements with 5-10% water changes every week.

It's only real use is removing unknown pollutants.
 
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