Huge GHL CHILLING Announcement

[SeanT]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12289914#post12289914 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
Sean, you should get one for your new setup...

That's what I am talking about.

 

[docwells]

I am interested too. I can't wait to see the specs and price. I would only need a small unit as I have a small 69 gallon tank.

Hey Sean, we could have 2 of the first units in Wilmington.

 

[SeanT]

...and it would probably be the only two units too lol.


Michael, Matthias I know you do not wish to give away any technical information until you are ready and I respect that.

But is it possible to know the size of each unit?
Just to see if it is possible to even have one.

Thank you,
Sean

 

[ReefRockerLive]

I second that thought. It would be most unfortunate to really want one and have the money ready, just to find out that it doesn't fit. By knowing the dimensions we can make space for the device ahead of time. JMO

 

[Matthias Gross]

Here is an overview:

Type, l x b x h (mm), Tank size (max.), max. power consumption
PTC1, 160 x 120 x 120, 100l, 140W
PTC2, 260 x 120 x 120, 200l, 280W
PTC3, 360 x 120 x 120, 300l, 420W
PTC4, 460 x 120 x 120, 400l, 560W
PTC6, 660 x 120 x 120, 600l, 840W

(larger tanks may require 2 units)

It is not easy to tell you exactly which type you need.
These things are important:
- desired tank temperature
- ambient temperature (where the tank is located)
- ambient temperature (where the chiller is located) - the cooler the better! A cool basement would be good.
- is your tank open or closed (canope)
- how much temperature produces your lighting

In general it is better to order a too large unit then an exactly fitting unit. There are some reasons:
- the chiller can also handle extreme conditions
- the chiller works more efficiently if it needs not to operate at full power.

I am sure we can make good prices for all sizes - so it will not be a big issue to buy the next larger unit.

 

[ReefRockerLive]

Those are pretty good sizes, what concerns me though is that these chillers cost more to run than the regular chillers. From those specs, I would need the PTC4 which draws 560w, while a Teco Chiller draws 200w. What makes these so efficient then?

 

[Stoneyscoral]

I am not sure that comparing to a conventional chiller is an apples to apples situation.

Since the PTC ramps up and down from 0 to 100% and all points in between its not using the max watts noted in the specs.

 

[TandN]

so then the biggest one only good for a 158g system huh ?

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12296699#post12296699 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Matthias Gross
Here is an overview:

Type, l x b x h (mm), Tank size (max.), max. power consumption
PTC1, 160 x 120 x 120, 100l, 140W
PTC2, 260 x 120 x 120, 200l, 280W
PTC3, 360 x 120 x 120, 300l, 420W
PTC4, 460 x 120 x 120, 400l, 560W
PTC6, 660 x 120 x 120, 600l, 840W

(larger tanks may require 2 units)

It is not easy to tell you exactly which type you need.
These things are important:
- desired tank temperature
- ambient temperature (where the tank is located)
- ambient temperature (where the chiller is located) - the cooler the better! A cool basement would be good.
- is your tank open or closed (canope)
- how much temperature produces your lighting

In general it is better to order a too large unit then an exactly fitting unit. There are some reasons:
- the chiller can also handle extreme conditions
- the chiller works more efficiently if it needs not to operate at full power.

I am sure we can make good prices for all sizes - so it will not be a big issue to buy the next larger unit.

Look like i may need 3 of the larger unit in my 600g system. I am going to be BROKE for a long time.

It is time to sell blood, kidney and whatever they could take out of me for the 3 chillers. .

 

[Matthias Gross]

maybe we make later larger units
but i think 2 6fold units can be better handled than one large unit.

Efficiency: The units work seamless between 0% and 100%. The higher the load the worse the efficiency.

@ReefRockerLive: 560W will only be drawn at 100%. And I am don't know for what conditions Teco specified 200W.

@Jar*Head: try 1 or 2 units. You can add other units when you recognize that's not enough

 

[Freed]

Prices yet?

 

[kidney514]

I'm not for SELL!!! LOL

 

[SeanT]

Thank you for the information.

My garage goes through extreme temperature fluctuations in the Summer and Winter.

With my new. in the works, 400+ system I would need 4 just to be within the parameters, possibly several more to be stable.

 

[Jar*Head]

Sean, you will need 4? That is a lot bro.... . I will start with 2 and will go from there

 

[Jar*Head]

Now we are waiting on the price...

 

[SeanT]

Yeah...waiting like a man in the electric chair waits for the juice to hit him.

 

[ReefRockerLive]

Will these be modular chillers? For my system that is 115 gallons, my temp fluctuates anywhere between 78-82 degrees Fahrenheit. I'd like to get the PTC4, just to make sure that the temp doesn't shoot above 84 degrees. Do you think I can possibly get away with a model 2 or 3?

 

[ReefRockerLive]

Another question, how exactly will these be setup? I have not ever used a chiller and never heard of this peltier method, will there be a pump included that will bring the water to the PTC?

 

[Jar*Head]

Look like you need to come up with your own pump....

 

[AQD_ottawa]

Thats standard with any chiller you purchase, chillers do not come with a pump for water circulation, so this is in no way an oversight, just standard.