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[Kidd Reef]

Diseased or not that flame angel is not going to live out a happy existence in that 14g biocube, and likely nothing else housed with it in a tank that size.

I agree with Deinonych in regards to trying to save the fish, you'll want to quarantine properly the next time you set up a tank so you might as well grab a little 10G tank, along with a cheap powerfilter, an airstone, some ammo lock, and some bottled bacteria(and alot of water just in case.) should be a little over 60 bucks but a flame angel alone goes for around 40 where i live, plus you'd have a proper quarantine setup once your done treating.

 

[Skupples]

Why not try to save the Flame while you have time? These fish were removed from their natural habitat; as conscientious aquarists we owe it to these fish to give them the best quality of life. Letting them die of disease without attempting treatment is not an ethical choice.

You have me caught in a struggle between "f it" and "BREEEEAAATH DAMN YOU, BREAAAATTHHHH"

in other news... clown #2 was going from laying on the bed, to gulping air, to laying on the bed. Was ~90 second cycle. I couldn't stand it, so.... :headwally:

I'm going to run around tomorrow and see how I can best setup QT w/o blowing hundreds & hundreds. If I can set it up, at a moments notice, for ~$150-$200, I'll probably do it.( and NOT enraging the beast which made me think this was a good idea in the first place)

Good news is, I'm in Miami. Bad news is, I'm in Miami.

My one remaining question is this. Both LFS have a communal water buying system. Gravity fed PVC pipes that deliver fresh/salinated water. The salinated water comes out ~1.028, but my question is how secure / clean this water might be?

As of tonight, Flame appears as healthy. Eyes are crystal clear, he's sleeping in his favorite cubby, & he was very grateful that I switched him over to mysis / brine, instead of freeze dried phosphate bombs.

Also... I swear both LFS claim to buy farm raised fish...

Diseased or not that flame angel is not going to live out a happy existence in that 14g biocube, and likely nothing else housed with it in a tank that size.

I agree with Deinonych in regards to trying to save the fish, you'll want to quarantine properly the next time you set up a tank so you might as well grab a little 10G tank, along with a cheap powerfilter, an airstone, some ammo lock, and some bottled bacteria(and alot of water just in case.) should be a little over 60 bucks but a flame angel alone goes for around 40 where i live, plus you'd have a proper quarantine setup once your done treating.

Flame was $30, and I straight up told the guy I had a cube w/ 4 LPS & 2 clowns, he didn't seem to care/worry (money)

Really though, I'm fixated on this ~100-150G tank that's just chilling in the back conference room at work... The big costs are just sitting inside of it, though it looks like it likely had a sump/refugium, based on the number of pumps it has... This would turn the biocube into a QT Cube.

I should probably move the $2,000 I was saving for Nvidia Pascal flagship GPUs over to setting this up properly...

 

[Kidd Reef]

You have me caught in a struggle between "f it" and "BREEEEAAATH DAMN YOU, BREAAAATTHHHH"

in other news... clown #2 was going from laying on the bed, to gulping air, to laying on the bed. Was ~90 second cycle. I couldn't stand it, so.... :headwally:

I'm going to run around tomorrow and see how I can best setup QT w/o blowing hundreds & hundreds. If I can set it up, at a moments notice, for ~$150-$200, I'll probably do it.( and NOT enraging the beast which made me think this was a good idea in the first place)

Good news is, I'm in Miami. Bad news is, I'm in Miami.

My one remaining question is this. Both LFS have a communal water buying system. Gravity fed PVC pipes that deliver fresh/salinated water. The salinated water comes out ~1.028, but my question is how secure / clean this water might be?

As of tonight, Flame appears as healthy. Eyes are crystal clear, he's sleeping in his favorite cubby, & he was very grateful that I switched him over to mysis / brine, instead of freeze dried phosphate bombs.

Also... I swear both LFS claim to buy farm raised fish...



Flame was $30, and I straight up told the guy I had a cube w/ 4 LPS & 2 clowns, he didn't seem to care/worry (money)

Really though, I'm fixated on this ~100-150G tank that's just chilling in the back conference room at work... The big costs are just sitting inside of it, though it looks like it likely had a sump/refugium, based on the number of pumps it has... This would turn the biocube into a QT Cube.

used to work at a LFS actually i live in florida myself, fort lauderdale to be exact. when i w"rked there my boss would tell me "when it comes to people and buying stuff that might not work out for their tanks, I dont tell if they dont ask.) Somewhat understandable when you think it about money wise, It's somewere inbetween turning people away and costing yourself business(people get salty, no pun intended, when you tell them they cant take care of this fish, we've actually had people come in our stores and tell us they wont buy from the store up the street anymore because of stuff like that.) and Selling Outright lying to get sales. Still i always tried to advise people on the compatibility issues when i could.

Point is ive seen LFS let people take home a 2 inch panther grouper knowing it was going in a 40 breeder with "larger" fish that would be bite sized in a few months to a year.

Great to hear your planning on upgrading, But dont take the LFS lack of concern for a fish being ok for your tank. It's always best to do your own research. gotta remember they are running a business.

 

[Skupples]

used to work at a LFS actually i live in florida myself, fort lauderdale to be exact. when i worked there my boss would tell me (when it comes to people and buying stuff that might not work out for their tanks, I dont tell if they dont ask.) Somewhat understandable when you think it about money wise, It's somewere inbetween turning people away and costing yourself business(people get salty, no pun intended, when you tell them they cant take care of this fish, we've actually had people come in our stores and tell us they wont buy from the store up the street anymore because of stuff like that.) and Selling Outright lying to get sales. Still i always tried to advise people on the compatibility issues when i could.

Point is ive seen LFS let people take home a 2 inch panther grouper knowing it was going in a 40 breeder with "larger" fish that would be bite sized in a few months to a year.

exotic aquatic or ????

PM me...

plantation.

 

[Kidd Reef]

exotic aquatic or ????

PM me...

plantation.

Sorry im not fond of putting information out there that directly links to me. Seen someone Giving out a little too much personal info blow up in their face one too many times on forums like these once someone decides to play internet detective. Plus its not cool for me to put a business on blast like that.(Even though 95% of other LFS do the same to some degree.)
If it was a Chain like Petsmart or Petco i wouldnt care but word of mouth is all the LFS's have these days.

 

[snorvich]

Sorry im not fond of putting information out there that directly links to me. Seen someone Giving out a little too much personal info blow up in their face one too many times on forums like these once someone decides to play internet detective. Plus its not cool for me to put a business on blast like that.(Even though 95% of other LFS do the same to some degree.)
If it was a Chain like Petsmart or Petco i wouldnt care but word of mouth is all the LFS's have these days.

Wise decision for a variety of reasons.

 

[Nina51]

glad to see you are moving toward setting up a qt. and good grief, you should be able to do this for a fraction of $100!!! at this point, put the boss's old tank in the back of your mind and for now, concentrate on what you have going on with the fish you already have.

Why not try to save the Flame while you have time? These fish were removed from their natural habitat; as conscientious aquarists we owe it to these fish to give them the best quality of life. Letting them die of disease without attempting treatment is not an ethical choice.

couldn't have said this better myself. and while you're at it, if the second clown is still alive and struggling, you might consider just euthanizing him as he is surely suffering.

 

[Skupples]

Second clown was euthanized last night, once he started gulping air.