shifty51008
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Well this didnt take long for them to copy, i guess they will debut their version within a month. Is there anything they havent copied yet besides vortechs lol
Jebao Cross Flow Pump
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seamonster124
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$16.99 + tax?
shifty51008
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Lol wouldnt surprise me.
SkullV
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Not surprised, From what I understand Maxspect products are all just imported Chinese made products which are rebranded anyway (razor vs.zetlight for example). Often times even the same molds are used for the knockoffs and the only difference is quality control in the factory. Sometimes it's a stretch to even call the factories a factory.
This is all very prevalent in the automotive performance industry. Companies buy large lots factory direct on Alibaba, rebrand them, and act like they engineered them from the ground up.
I for one am very excited about the jebao gyre. The quality of the Maxspect piece doesn't seem very good (bushings, wiring, blades) and at least with jebao it'll be priced where it should be. Will also be able to get them on Amazon prime which is great for warranty stuff.
This is all very prevalent in the automotive performance industry. Companies buy large lots factory direct on Alibaba, rebrand them, and act like they engineered them from the ground up.
I for one am very excited about the jebao gyre. The quality of the Maxspect piece doesn't seem very good (bushings, wiring, blades) and at least with jebao it'll be priced where it should be. Will also be able to get them on Amazon prime which is great for warranty stuff.
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
Ive heard maxspect is fixing those issues though? I havent bought one yet though as i am waiting for my upgrade
seamonster124
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Jebao gyre
Jebao gyre
All Murican products are Chinese. Some Chinese products are bette. Others, like Jebao, are getting better. Get used to it and don't get emotionally attached to any products
Jebao gyre
All Murican products are Chinese. Some Chinese products are bette. Others, like Jebao, are getting better. Get used to it and don't get emotionally attached to any products
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shifty51008
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Not for sale yet, it will be debut'ed in china next month from what i read.
seamonster124
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What is a gyre anyways
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
Supposed to make a circular motion from 1 pump kinda like an undertow
seamonster124
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Jebao makes a pretty great skimmer called Coral Box with the their adjustable DCT Pumps. They are available at reef breeders and fish street and my local LFS https://www.reefbreeders.com/2155-2/
seamonster124
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Looking at BRS videos, gyre is exactly like plasing a powerhead or two near the top of your tank....
shifty51008
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Most powerheads just shoot water in a straight line, if you look at vidoes of the gyre that have the flags all over the tank it will show you how it does the circular motion
seamonster124
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I saw it and I was thinking any old powerhead would do just about that. You shoot water at the other end of the tank, it'll hit the other side and go down....then it hits the bottom and comes back towards the pump...
SkullV
They Got My Number
Yeah, many will have some level of undertow, but better designed pumps do it better. For example a tunze will generally push water farther than a vortech, but the vortech will have more undertow.
karimwassef
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Good. I hope they make it even better.
This stuff doesn't require major R&D - most of it comes from existing technologies in other markets and applications anyway. The "gyre" is a classic approach to moving liquids and gases. Making it work in a saltwater tank isn't rocket science.
The margins the vendors and retailers charge is unbelievable... I would pay 20% more for a new idea. Maybe 30%, but 70%? 80%? come on
This stuff doesn't require major R&D - most of it comes from existing technologies in other markets and applications anyway. The "gyre" is a classic approach to moving liquids and gases. Making it work in a saltwater tank isn't rocket science.
The margins the vendors and retailers charge is unbelievable... I would pay 20% more for a new idea. Maybe 30%, but 70%? 80%? come on
Isaacs55
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I feel they have to market their price high just because they "did it first" kinda thing. I think if they placed a reasonable price on products that people can afford, then there wouldn't be a need to make "generic" brand because everyone can afford it and everyone is going to purchase their product instead of the generic brand.
I guess it's, you get what you pay for kinda thing.
seamonster124
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Also the websites want $140 profit per unit.
