shifty51008
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from the pics posted it looks like the paddles are the thin ones that kept breaking with maxspec's before they fixed the issue.
Jebao Cross Flow Pump
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seamonster124
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Reeferz412
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It's hard so say since the rw20 has a conical flow. This offers a much wider and spread out flow. I think, two on your 210 is good.
karimwassef
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Can you post the exact dimensions?
Does it have an inlet and outlet section so it can be made into a wavebox?
Does it have an inlet and outlet section so it can be made into a wavebox?
seamonster124
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Hey thank you so much for the videos. U have a perfect tank for testing this.
Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
Np guys. I saw this thread and read all 35+ pages or so. Saw that there was no post about specs and stuff lol. Karim, I'll get you the dimensions of the fyre gyre. The specs are on the instructions on some of the pics I shared. It gives you a breakdown of the components.
Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
Jebao Cross Flow Pump
Just so everyone knows, it's. 66 inch tank and it's at 5 notches at w2 mode and it's more than enough. No noise what so ever.
I got Acros in there, lps, and softies and they are doing great. I checked this morning and all are responding well. My milleoporas were a lot hairier (more polyp extension) than with the three powerheads.
Just so everyone knows, it's. 66 inch tank and it's at 5 notches at w2 mode and it's more than enough. No noise what so ever.
I got Acros in there, lps, and softies and they are doing great. I checked this morning and all are responding well. My milleoporas were a lot hairier (more polyp extension) than with the three powerheads.
Here's my initial thoughts after a quick look at the CP-40:
Look what came in the post this morning...
Well, two of them actually! These are the non-wifi's controller version. The idea is to control them through the Apex Jebao controllers which are currently running my RW wavemakers and DC return pump. There's a wifi version and a separate wifi controller unit which seems to have a iOS/Android app for full programability, including sync and scheduling.
Here's a really light review so far.
Open box, so far so good. UK plug and very solid feeling.
The controller is very similar to the RW control unit and is a little plasticy, however I'm unlikely to use it if I can connect to my apex via the Jebao/Apex controllers already in place running the RW-8's
There are 4 modes, I'll go into more detail in a moment now it's in the tank.
The pump itself feels solid. I stripped it down (taking the end caps off was a little tricky first time) it feels very well put together. The blades are quite small, I couldn't figure out how to take them out of their cages to fully examine them (mainly as I wanted to get it in the tank). Each side is independently adjustable for directing flow.
A word on magnets...
They are not kidding. Once off, don't put within 6" of each other in any direction. My thumb got caught. Ouch. Don't try making this shot at home kids...
The magnets themselves have an interesting foam like coating on them which seems to reduce noise and I dare say damage to glass. Clean the glass before putting these on the tank!
The magnet mounting is attached to the pump via a floating mount. It seems they have put some effort into reducing vibration. The instructions do state that the bushings are wearable and will need replacing in time.
Initial positioning on the tank, at one end. I was considering putting them on the back wall, however this may be way too much given the power.
Each birdcage rotor comes in its own cage. Apparently these do come out, however I haven't been able to do so yet. Everything is very sturdy. The blades don't look too flimsy, although I haven't been able to have a close look as they are still in the cages. Ceramic bushings with rubber dampeners feature throughout the unit. The drive coupling between the motor and each cage rotor is also dampened by a rubber connector.
A few words on flow. This shifts a lot of water. You don't appreciate how much until you see the corals moving! As hinted at earlier, there are four modes, each adjustable in power, frequency and direction of flow:
H: Continuous flow, speed is preset by pressing the "speed" button. P&N controls the direction of flow. The flow is strong and broad. The euphyllia on the sand bed doesn't know what's hit it with the backflip coming back towards the pump from the other end of the tank.
W1: Classic wave. And yes, this really is a full on wave. Mounted near the top of a 4 ft tank, I'm getting a 3-5cm wave height without tweaking the power and frequency.
W2: Full gyre, power controlled from the controller, it automatically reverses every 4-10mins, adjusted using the dial. Again, very good flow throughout the whole tank.
W3: Big Waves! Haven't played with this as didn't want to leave it over night.
On noise, it's a new pump, so have left it to bed in over night. It is louder than my RWs are now, but quieter than when they started and more of a DC whistle than a power head noise.
First impressions are that I am very impressed. At $140 each, they are even more impressive.
Look what came in the post this morning...
Well, two of them actually! These are the non-wifi's controller version. The idea is to control them through the Apex Jebao controllers which are currently running my RW wavemakers and DC return pump. There's a wifi version and a separate wifi controller unit which seems to have a iOS/Android app for full programability, including sync and scheduling.
Here's a really light review so far.
Open box, so far so good. UK plug and very solid feeling.
The controller is very similar to the RW control unit and is a little plasticy, however I'm unlikely to use it if I can connect to my apex via the Jebao/Apex controllers already in place running the RW-8's
There are 4 modes, I'll go into more detail in a moment now it's in the tank.
The pump itself feels solid. I stripped it down (taking the end caps off was a little tricky first time) it feels very well put together. The blades are quite small, I couldn't figure out how to take them out of their cages to fully examine them (mainly as I wanted to get it in the tank). Each side is independently adjustable for directing flow.
A word on magnets...
They are not kidding. Once off, don't put within 6" of each other in any direction. My thumb got caught. Ouch. Don't try making this shot at home kids...
The magnets themselves have an interesting foam like coating on them which seems to reduce noise and I dare say damage to glass. Clean the glass before putting these on the tank!
The magnet mounting is attached to the pump via a floating mount. It seems they have put some effort into reducing vibration. The instructions do state that the bushings are wearable and will need replacing in time.
Initial positioning on the tank, at one end. I was considering putting them on the back wall, however this may be way too much given the power.
Each birdcage rotor comes in its own cage. Apparently these do come out, however I haven't been able to do so yet. Everything is very sturdy. The blades don't look too flimsy, although I haven't been able to have a close look as they are still in the cages. Ceramic bushings with rubber dampeners feature throughout the unit. The drive coupling between the motor and each cage rotor is also dampened by a rubber connector.
A few words on flow. This shifts a lot of water. You don't appreciate how much until you see the corals moving! As hinted at earlier, there are four modes, each adjustable in power, frequency and direction of flow:
H: Continuous flow, speed is preset by pressing the "speed" button. P&N controls the direction of flow. The flow is strong and broad. The euphyllia on the sand bed doesn't know what's hit it with the backflip coming back towards the pump from the other end of the tank.
W1: Classic wave. And yes, this really is a full on wave. Mounted near the top of a 4 ft tank, I'm getting a 3-5cm wave height without tweaking the power and frequency.
W2: Full gyre, power controlled from the controller, it automatically reverses every 4-10mins, adjusted using the dial. Again, very good flow throughout the whole tank.
W3: Big Waves! Haven't played with this as didn't want to leave it over night.
On noise, it's a new pump, so have left it to bed in over night. It is louder than my RWs are now, but quieter than when they started and more of a DC whistle than a power head noise.
First impressions are that I am very impressed. At $140 each, they are even more impressive.
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Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
Yeah I had the magnet on my washer. It slammed hard onto the metal lol. I quickly moved it to another surface haha. Thanks for putting more info out there. I just snapped pics of the instructions haha.
karimwassef
Active member
What is the real max flow?
I have no idea. A lot. Too much at full power in a 4 footer. With the cross flow at one end on 50%, the back flow along the entire length of the 4ft tank is impressive.
karimwassef
Active member
what does it claim on the box?
Edit: Jes** the flow is strong. I had it on H mode which seemed fine, only to find a scene of devastation when I checked the tank after taking the boys swimming..
A 1ft long area of the bottom clear of sand, corals all over the place. If you are going to try these, then keep the power low and switch all other power heads off!
A 1ft long area of the bottom clear of sand, corals all over the place. If you are going to try these, then keep the power low and switch all other power heads off!
karimwassef
Active member
how much flow??! I need data! 
At least - what do they claim it does?
At least - what do they claim it does?
No specs that I can see on flow. I wouldn't compare it to a normal power head as the flow is completely different. The only data is the wattage, which is 40w for the CP-40.
I think in essence, this type of pump moves a wide bulk of water, strongly, but a little more slowly (not much though) whereas a traditional power head moves a narrow stream very rapidly.
Think of flow vs pressure.
I think in essence, this type of pump moves a wide bulk of water, strongly, but a little more slowly (not much though) whereas a traditional power head moves a narrow stream very rapidly.
Think of flow vs pressure.
I've just checked with Joe @JBWave who has tested and he says no, don't try it (I have the Jebao/Apex controllers running my RW's). The plugs are the same, however the pins and electronics are different. I suspect this will be released in due course and have asked Fish Street for their view
karimwassef
Active member
There must be some indication of gph moved?
If not, can you determine it experimentally? (No idea how this would work).
If not, can you determine it experimentally? (No idea how this would work).
I see no reason why these won't be apex controllable. They're a dc pump so it's either going to be an analog signal wire or straight pwm to the dc motor. It's just going to be getting the connectors and figuring out the signal it needs. Really contemplating 4 of these for my 7' 300 I'm doing
