ChadTheSpike
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good luck Dave!!
Leopard Wrasse Primer
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iamwrasseman
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thanks chad and it already looks as though one is hurting pretty badly ,he wont make it through the night . i will be crossing my fingers for him as he is already out on the sand breathing heavily . i did a six hour acclimation with thease guys this time as the water was at 1.023 and mine is at 1.026 ,not that far off but enough to need a prolonged acclimation IMO .
gflat65
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Decided to try another female bipartitus. She's pretty good size (almost as long as my male ornatus, but thicker). She'd been swimming around at the LFS, so I had them bag her for me. The typical day or so of not showing herself much, then she's been out now for at least 6 hours a day for the last three days. She has been staying to one corner, but ate PE mysis when I fed it (and has been picking off rocks in that area).
The purple tang and male ornatus are boh beating the crap out of her if she leaves her little square. I hadn't heard much about big aggression between leopards, but with her being about as big as the male, I wonder if he has a complex, even though sh's a different species? She retreats into the sand when they attack (in tandem). How long woulf you expect this to go on? Petie (Purple Tang) was a PITA to the male orantus when I added him back in September and it ended after a week or so, but the bipartitus has two picking on her. Should she go into a different part of the system, or just let it go for a few days and see if the aggression is reduced?
The purple tang and male ornatus are boh beating the crap out of her if she leaves her little square. I hadn't heard much about big aggression between leopards, but with her being about as big as the male, I wonder if he has a complex, even though sh's a different species? She retreats into the sand when they attack (in tandem). How long woulf you expect this to go on? Petie (Purple Tang) was a PITA to the male orantus when I added him back in September and it ended after a week or so, but the bipartitus has two picking on her. Should she go into a different part of the system, or just let it go for a few days and see if the aggression is reduced?
gflat65
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Appreciate the help... Real helpful. I should know better by now... By virtue of that argument, no one can keep leopards or tangs with their leopards, right?
So a healthy fish that is eating frozen food and picking off the rocks is destined to die if she is picked on when she leaves her spot during acclimation? If it went on indefinitely, I could see that, which is why I asked the question of how long someone would expect it to go on (based on anecdotal evidence, of course, as is most hobby related 'data') and if I should move her to a different part of the system for a while. Did you miss the actual question part of the question?
So a healthy fish that is eating frozen food and picking off the rocks is destined to die if she is picked on when she leaves her spot during acclimation? If it went on indefinitely, I could see that, which is why I asked the question of how long someone would expect it to go on (based on anecdotal evidence, of course, as is most hobby related 'data') and if I should move her to a different part of the system for a while. Did you miss the actual question part of the question?
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iamwrasseman
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its not so simple as many other fish will survive but the leopards are pretty delicate and they usually succumb to this situation.if i were you i would find a new tank that he could go in or he will indeed probably perish as he just wont be able to deal with the stress of being chased constantly .
gflat65
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Thanks iamwrasseman. I've got four tanks in this system with deep sand beds, so I can easily move her (no tankmates in two of them).
The tang and M. ornatus male only pick on her when she tries swimming all the way around the tank. Neither bothers her at all if she stays on one end. She constantly picks on the rocks in her end of the tank and is eating PE mysis. I'd not heard of aggression between leopards like what I saw when the ornatus attacked her, so I was curious as to whether that was common. The tang beat up on the ornatus when I introduced him, but only for about a week. Since then, they get along fine (~9 months now). I've never added a fish to an established system that didn't get picked on by one or more fish on introduction, so I wanted to give them a chance to mesh before deciding it wouldn't work. She's only been in the tank six days now. She's not got any signs of torn fins or anything along those lines. Breathes normally, just doesn't leave the left side of the tank without repercussions.
The tang and M. ornatus male only pick on her when she tries swimming all the way around the tank. Neither bothers her at all if she stays on one end. She constantly picks on the rocks in her end of the tank and is eating PE mysis. I'd not heard of aggression between leopards like what I saw when the ornatus attacked her, so I was curious as to whether that was common. The tang beat up on the ornatus when I introduced him, but only for about a week. Since then, they get along fine (~9 months now). I've never added a fish to an established system that didn't get picked on by one or more fish on introduction, so I wanted to give them a chance to mesh before deciding it wouldn't work. She's only been in the tank six days now. She's not got any signs of torn fins or anything along those lines. Breathes normally, just doesn't leave the left side of the tank without repercussions.
Ralph ATL
Formerly mysterybox
Well, I guess you know EVERYTHING! Why ask?
They really need peaceful, very peaceful tank mates. SOME of them can tolerate a little harassment as long as they are able to move freely in the tank. Others, like the Macropharyngodon choati wrasse need their own species tank it seems. PEACE.
They really need peaceful, very peaceful tank mates. SOME of them can tolerate a little harassment as long as they are able to move freely in the tank. Others, like the Macropharyngodon choati wrasse need their own species tank it seems. PEACE.
iamwrasseman
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well third day with the choats and one is looking for a place to die,right now he is gasping and doing his death dance which i hate to see . i feel bad for him and can only hope for the best but I'm not planning on him making it through the night . man these guys are tough ! the water is perfect and the tank is stress free as there is absolutely no harassment what so ever . there is a small potters and a bipartus in the tank and that's it . they have been eating every day and i did the prazi pro so all i can do is wait and see what happens . the other one is doing great so far but the next few weeks /months will tell the true story and i will keep ya all posted as to what happens ~
Ralph ATL
Formerly mysterybox
Ralph ATL
Formerly mysterybox
I guess when you state, "The purple tang and male ornatus are both beating the crap out of her if she leaves her little square"
Yeah, that sounds perfect.
and, "She retreats into the sand when they attack (in tandem)"
again, perfect
and here,"but the bipartitus has two picking on her"
sweet!
and here,"Decided to try another female bipartitus"
WHICH SOUNDS LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT!
and here is my post:
"at this rate she will die, soon. They need PEACEFUL tankmates as previously stated in this thread a bunch of times. "
and you expect what? lol! Just trying to help you!
iamwrasseman
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pm me with info on what FB is as i would love to get with him and see if im doing something wrong . theres plenty of room for improvement but my tank is reall spot on right now . i really think its a crap shoot as to how they are collected and held but i must admit that i can certainly be missing something here .
thanks dave
thanks dave
mjoener
BAMs BAMs... I have a ton
hey quick question.
I read that M. meleagris does better if introduced in a trio. I have a 65g RedSea Max. I just picked up a very small meleagris and want to know if 2 more would be unacceptable in my size tank.
Other tank mates:
Pair of clowns
COral beauty
McCosters Flasher
Starry Blenny
Pearly Jawfish
I read that M. meleagris does better if introduced in a trio. I have a 65g RedSea Max. I just picked up a very small meleagris and want to know if 2 more would be unacceptable in my size tank.
Other tank mates:
Pair of clowns
COral beauty
McCosters Flasher
Starry Blenny
Pearly Jawfish
iamwrasseman
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not in a 34 gallon tank IMO.
gflat65
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Since you're obviously not going to let it go until I respond, my response to you was due to the implications of your post. I love being talked down to by someone who knows absolutely nothing about me (so, you jumped into a purchase without knowing anything about it-it will die, then you put it in with a notoriously peaceful leopard wrasse and it gets attacked, what were you thinking???). In five years, I've tried to keep a total of 11 leopard wrasses. I've only kept four longer than nine months (she's my third female bipartitus). I've done my share of positively contributing to this community and this thread over the years. Sure, I'm not the expert you obviously are, so I sometime have moments of weakness when I think I might benefit from asking a question. Then the response I get is 'just give up, there's no point in trying' to loosely paraphrase. Real helpful. Find some happiness and get over it
. I'm done on the subject. I'll remove the subscription to the thread for ya
. Sorry for interjecting into your little world. PEACE.
mjoener
BAMs BAMs... I have a ton
It is a 65g RedSea Max aka the 250
iamwrasseman
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you have" Current Tank Info: 34 RSM, 65g RSM in the works",and i assumed that the 65g RSM in the works meant that it was in the making but i am mistaken again for assuming . ok still to small of a tank if you ask me with the knowledge that you seem to have with the leopards as they need a perfect situation and i dont think that the clowns will leave them alone once everyone gets settled in .
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