Mark's 180 Starfire upgrade
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tfp
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mark, sounds like you've got the tools and are ready for battle! i'm available after 2pm saturday if you want help.
sps systems are so up/down all the time :mad2:. so many variables that could go wrong. if it were easy, everyone with a sps tank started from frags would have 12" colonies after 2-3 years
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sps systems are so up/down all the time :mad2:. so many variables that could go wrong. if it were easy, everyone with a sps tank started from frags would have 12" colonies after 2-3 years
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PnoyReefeR
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Mark goodluck on your move this saturday. Hope all goes well and as you can see people comments are making you stronger everyday 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13418452#post13418452 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tfp
mark, sounds like you've got the tools and are ready for battle! i'm available after 2pm saturday if you want help.
sps systems are so up/down all the time :mad2:. so many variables that could go wrong. if it were easy, everyone with a sps tank started from frags would have 12" colonies after 2-3 years
Thanks Tim, I could use an experienced set of hands and eyes for a couple hours that Amanda and Emma are familiar with.
You are definitely right about SPS tanks. "If its not one thing, its another" That is just another example of how special your tank is.
eagleONE
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13418052#post13418052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mpoletti
It does say right on the bottle that it works of flatworms. I have heard varied reports, but I believe more in 1st hand experience than rumors around the water cooler.
I will be posting my different experiences along the way, believe you me
Mark, actually I was going to PM but I forgot (my dental exam is coming up)
I've looked up a LOTS of research papers and an antihelminthic drug that came up was praziquantel (I'm wondering if it's close to prazipro) . I've seen this drug used on FW fish with worm infestation. I wanted to conduct an experiment on my own prior standing behind it but I haven't found the time.
There's my update. Hope everything is well.
Jay
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A month or so ago I did a search of all AEFW threads and read thru just about all of them. Sadly most seem to have just died out a long time ago (2006). There was some promising research being done by a few RC members. This was one of the best threads I found:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=858834&perpage=25&pagenumber=3
Dolt was onto some good stuff:
SeatT also had a good thread going:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=688833&highlight=AEFW
If my memory serves me correctly, I believe Prazi Pro was found to be ineffective. I believe the issue was around sufficient solubility or lack there of. I don't have the patience to read back thru all these threads again to find the specific research but maybe someone else does
Praziquentel is the active ingredient and pure prazi is quite soluble. I located it locally at Connie's Pond Store in San Leandro. It is expensive but if it works, way cheaper than replacing rare acros. My personal feeling is that, like Red Bugs, dipping treatments will be futile in ridding the entire tank. The cure will lie in a full tank treatment and Praziquentel seems to be the most promising drug right now.
As for worrying a lot about eggs, it will be mute in a full tank treatment as a treatment regimen will take into account the full life cycle of the parasite (Just like Interceptor treatment of Red Bugs).
Hope this help stimulate some fresh conversation and creative thinking.
Thanks Erik, I have about 10 different links to some of the older threads that are now in the archives here on RC.
I have also heard from a few people here on RC and on some other boards, that they have had some good results with Prazipro. But I also have heard about good results with fluke tabs and we don't need to go there
I did find it in a "purer" concentration, but after speaking to a few people that have have decent results, I just went the easy route as I needed a new wet side for a vortech as well. I probably will not even use it on this round of dipping.
I agree about the "in tank treatment" and that is why I will be removing all of my acroporas and about 1/3 of the Live rock. I plan on breaking the life cycle by leaving the tank acroless for a period of time. The key will be cutting off all bases and inspecting closely, before putting any of the corals back in display.
I definitely understand that there are risks involved in this, but as you know me, I can not be happy knowing that they are in my tank. My Nikon has been getting no action and there are some days that I just turn off the lights rather to look at the tank.
If I am going to stay in this hobby, I will need to overcome these buggers or at least go out swinging.
I have also heard from a few people here on RC and on some other boards, that they have had some good results with Prazipro. But I also have heard about good results with fluke tabs and we don't need to go there
I did find it in a "purer" concentration, but after speaking to a few people that have have decent results, I just went the easy route as I needed a new wet side for a vortech as well. I probably will not even use it on this round of dipping.
I agree about the "in tank treatment" and that is why I will be removing all of my acroporas and about 1/3 of the Live rock. I plan on breaking the life cycle by leaving the tank acroless for a period of time. The key will be cutting off all bases and inspecting closely, before putting any of the corals back in display.
I definitely understand that there are risks involved in this, but as you know me, I can not be happy knowing that they are in my tank. My Nikon has been getting no action and there are some days that I just turn off the lights rather to look at the tank.
If I am going to stay in this hobby, I will need to overcome these buggers or at least go out swinging.
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KEEPERZ
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But I also have heard about good results with fluke tabs and we don't need to go there
Teach me about this Mark cus I have never used anything other then fluke tabs for AEFW since starting my 700 and if they didn't work I would have them all over my tank, my corals came from a 450g infected with flatworms-help me understand
Teach me about this Mark cus I have never used anything other then fluke tabs for AEFW since starting my 700 and if they didn't work I would have them all over my tank, my corals came from a 450g infected with flatworms-help me understand
Joe, Erik lost his coral collection in a transfer while using fluke tabs. I have heard plenty of good things as well. I think it is up to the individual as I know a lot of people that have had a lot of bad luck with levamisole and I think its just fine. One thing about a lot of reefers is that is if the directions say one thing, they always think more is better
Mark, now that I look back at one of the PM I received about Prazi Pro. It seems that the one of the peolpe I talked with never mentioned Prazi Pro, but rather prazi. I have talked to him since and he was refering to Praziquentel. His is
made by Hikari. It seems to make since, from all the breed I have talk to Prazi Pro seems to be not very solubility. Alot of them compained about foaming when using it to treat fish.
made by Hikari. It seems to make since, from all the breed I have talk to Prazi Pro seems to be not very solubility. Alot of them compained about foaming when using it to treat fish.
reefer334
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Mark
You can get praziquantrel here
http://www.1800petmeds.com/Tape+Worm+Tabs+Cat-prod10415.html
I have used on my cats it is just a general dewormer.
This is the stuff I used on my fish with awesome results,
and yes I know what you mean by the high end corals that would make me nervous to, but I used mine one some very expensive fish with good results.
I hope it goes well for you.
Have you thought about braking off a frag that has AEFW on it and experimenting that way with praziquantrel?
that way you would not put the whole colony at risk.
Have you talked to any vets or people at UC Davis?
Chris
You can get praziquantrel here
http://www.1800petmeds.com/Tape+Worm+Tabs+Cat-prod10415.html
I have used on my cats it is just a general dewormer.
This is the stuff I used on my fish with awesome results,
and yes I know what you mean by the high end corals that would make me nervous to, but I used mine one some very expensive fish with good results.
I hope it goes well for you.
Have you thought about braking off a frag that has AEFW on it and experimenting that way with praziquantrel?
that way you would not put the whole colony at risk.
Have you talked to any vets or people at UC Davis?
Chris
Underwaterparadise
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National Fish Pharmaceuticals has a product called Praz-Tastic. It is pure Praziquantel powder. Not sure about a coral dip but it works great on fish.
Yes Chris, I have spoke to various vets, marine biologist, advanced marine aquarists and polyclad experts.
I will be experimenting with some of the corals that I am "less attached" to. At this point, it is what it is and it will end up however it ends up
I will be experimenting with some of the corals that I am "less attached" to. At this point, it is what it is and it will end up however it ends up
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