Mysterious fish deaths are more common now (Flukes)

First off I want to thank the Capn for his new thread, that is how I found out about flukes and this thread. The info you are posting is awesome and extremely helpful.
I purchased a used 75g tank on 4/6/10, it came with 2 A ocellaris, 1 goldstripe marroon clown, 1 scopas tang and 1 false gramma. They are now in a temporary 29g tank until I can build a new stand and get the 75g set up. Anyway I noticed that one of my A. Ocellaris was shaking it's head. He does not seem to be displaying any of the other symptoms, the marroon clowns fins and tail seem to be a bit raggedy but he is not shaking his head. Should I try and dip all of the fish, as a precaution or just the ones that I am suspicious of (I don't know if I can catch the false gramma, he hides in a hole in one of the rocks)? I wanted to buy a cuc on Tuesday, but I am now wondering if I should wait. Thanks for any advice.
 
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I've manage to capture the worms via the camera. They are lesser than a mm in size. Somehow i feels it looks similar to those in the below url.... Been battling for a year and lost my favourite angels one by one.... Anything else I could do other than flushing off the tank?

http://www.aquarium-pond-answers.com/2007/03/trematodes-and-nematodes-in-fish.html

http://www.aquarium-pond-answers.com/2007/03/trematodes-and-nematodes-in-fish.html
 
billsreef said:
This is one of the rare instances I disagree with capn. I would do the FW dip, as it will provide considerable relief from the fluke infection in a matter of minutes, instead of the few days it would take the Prazi to do it's thing. While doing the dip will cause some stress, IME not enough to outweigh the benifits of stripping of most, if not all, of the flukes right away. For the ich, I would either treat with Cupramine or hyposalinity. Sadly it's not unusual for a new fish to come in with multiple parasites like this. It's a good reason to QT.
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Thanks for correcting my post Bill---I believe and do what you say also--I was more concerned with the opportunity for the op to treat his whole tank which doesn't always present itself
 
thanks but too late
its dead after app 2 weeks of suffering

currently the only livestock is a starfish, and some snails
how long should i wait before adding another fish in?
is 1 month enough to kill all the bacteria inside the tank?

thanks
 
dnsfpl said:
thanks but too late
its dead after app 2 weeks of suffering

currently the only livestock is a starfish, and some snails
how long should i wait before adding another fish in?
is 1 month enough to kill all the bacteria inside the tank?

thanks
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Sorry for your loss
go with 6 weeks to be sure now that you have the opportunity.
 
I would like to throw in that I have been through he medicating journey for the past few months. I have found that medicating a tank with Paraguard and then 1-3 hour dips of Paraguard every few days works best for me. Even once a day if the fish is bad enough. The medication seems to work on almost everything. I have had results with it working on (parasites, ich, fungus, clouded eyes form unknown cause, loss of appetite due to disease, tail rot, and injuries)

I have sued Lifeguard as well with low stress levels and slight results but not as good.

I then tried some wicked powerful powder for bacteria and fungus that I got from the LFS that he ordered form a pharmaceutical company. I used it on a Heniocus with mouth rot, that cleared up on fifth day, but then other problems arouse and fish stopped eating and died 1.5 days later (today). From now on I am sticking with Paraguard + frequent water changes + Paraguard dips. I dip in a specimen container hanging in the tank. I see no stress during dips, but still keep an eye on the fish.
 
I would like to add that without Paraguard dips, the medication does little to nothing if only dossing recommended tank dosage. You must dip to see results with most problems IMO.
 
A word of caution on Paraguard. It is not totally reef safe nor will Seachems state it is.
I used it on a tank and overnight it killed a large pink brittle star and put a black sea urchin on its death bed.
I do use Paraguard and what I like about this product is that it is also treats bacteria infections that quite often take over from the lesions left on the fish from parasites like ich.
 
How do you guys keep your PH up after you turn off your skimmer? Mine drops from 8.11 to 7.79 in a day.

Would 4 days worth of prazipro work or do I actually have to do it for a week? The reason why I ask is because the prazipro is harsh on clams. I lost a few clams in the past and lost another 2 recently when I did prazipro a few month ago.
 
Psionicdragon said:
How do you guys keep your PH up after you turn off your skimmer? Mine drops from 8.11 to 7.79 in a day.

Would 4 days worth of prazipro work or do I actually have to do it for a week? The reason why I ask is because the prazipro is harsh on clams. I lost a few clams in the past and lost another 2 recently when I did prazipro a few month ago.
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I can't see your skimmer affecting your pH like that. Now a calcium reactor would be a different story.
The drop in pH simply might be a matter of co2 build up do to the lack of circulation it supplies.
I would not worry about it--most tanks experience a drop in pH more than that due to the nocturnal swing when photosynthesis stops for the day
 
jason2459 said:
I always keep an air stone going in my QT. You could throw in a couple in your sump or tank.
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a small maxijet would probably be better and leaving the top of the qt to allow gas exchange. The maxijet will also keep medications etc circulating in the water better
 
Psionicdragon said:
So would I have to leave it in for a week or can I do a 4 day treatment?
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I am a little confused here(easy at my age)
Are you treating in a qt or the display tank.
If treating in the display tank then I would not do it if you have already had trouble or rather your clams have had issues with Prazipro.:bigeyes:
 
Psionicdragon said:
So would I have to leave it in for a week or can I do a 4 day treatment?
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Can you move your clams to a temporary tank for 10 days? Then you can treat your tank without worrying about your clams. I know that Prazipro at 4x its dosage for 24 hours does get rid of flukes which I did by accident a few months back. It may of gotten rid of the adult flukes but the eggs most likely survived and reinfected my fish. Whether or not Prazipro can get rid of all of your flukes in 4 days depends on the fluke cycle. You can either treat your tank for 4 days and see what happens in a couple of weeks to see if your fish still has flukes or you can remove your clams and treat your tank with Prazipro for 10 days
 
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