New Reef Octupus Skimmer Thread (Pacific Coast Imports)

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I'm lost about the diagram. It looks like the "acceptable" one is the one that doesn't have a hole punched thru, while the "unacceptable" one does have a hole. If this is true, how does the air get inside if the "acceptable" one is blocked? Am I missing something. :(
I feel like I just got off the wrong exit.
 
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I am confused with the setup also. I would think you could drill the hole for the venturi straight through were the two elbows meet. I just dont understand having the hole opening for the venturi underneath a washer????

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Guys, maybe you're not used to reading technical drawings? The picture at the top is the entire venturi assembly. Below it are 2 half sections through the wall of the venturi at the location of the bore for the air injection. The other half is not shown as it is of no consequence. The air is sucked in through the grommet, takes a right angle turn into the bored hole and is delivered to the needle-wheel cavity of the pump. The principle of the venturi is that a low pressure is created in the needle-wheel cavity which sucks the air in as the water expands from the inlet tube into the needle-wheel cavity. It is therefore paramount to deliver the air to the low pressure needle-wheel cavity.

The potential problem that the manufacturer has identified is that the bore or shaft that delivers air to the needle-wheel cavity may have breached the wall of the tube where the incoming air is turned at right angles. This can cause either water to be sucked into the venturi air bore instead of air from outside or air to be sucked into the water tube. The result is less air being chopped up by the venturi.

Don't drill your air hole straight through or you will loose a big chunk of performance.

I have examined my venturi and found it to be intact - no pin hole. That's good, so what are the alternatives? Well, the only way inwhich performance can be lost is if air is being sucked in from other joint areas -- notably the union joints! Or, if there's an obstruction.

Scubaduderon discovered the venturi grommet protrudes into the bore for the venturi and has drilled it out. You only need to insert a drill bit of the correct diameter and turn it with your fingers; you don't need to use an electric drill -- just turn the bit with your fingers to remove the unwanted end of the grommet. Then clean it out by blowing into the grommet end of the hole.

Next, to ensure that air is only sucked in through the venturi, I have put a couple of turns of teflon tape around the threads that connect to the pump intake and the union at the opposite end. That will seal and prevent any air being sucked in through the threads.

Finally, I took the spare black washer that came with the skimmer and placed it over the washer that was cut to prevent obscuring the air passage into the needle-wheel cavity. I did this to safe guard against the 'cut' washer deforming when the assembly is tightened up.

The results? I can't be 100% certain, but these are my observations:

(1) The sucking noises around the unions has stopped;
(2) There appears to be better bubble density;
(3) The skimmate foam texture looks more like my beckett skimmate foam texture;
(4) The air-pump is no longer able to augment the air -intake.

Tone :-):) :)
 
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Thanks for clearing that up, Tone.

I'm still confuzzled as all hell, but I'm sure I'll be able to apply this information when I have my venturi in hand.

Daniel
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7362638#post7362638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tonyf
Finally, I took the spare black washer that came with the skimmer and placed it over the washer that was cut to prevent obscuring the air passage into the needle-wheel cavity. I did this to safe guard against the 'cut' washer deforming when the assembly is tightened up.

Tone :-):) :)

Thanks Tone, the double washer fix hadn't occurred to me. I will try it right now!

Ron
 
LOL...I understand that the drawings are a cutaway without the top part, but from the small diagram that was posted it was very unclear what was blocked and what had a hole thru it. :)

I do have a hole as in the diagram of the "unacceptable one". :(
How do I contact them for a replacement?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7364927#post7364927 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DarthBaiter
LOL...I understand that the drawings are a cutaway without the top part, but from the small diagram that was posted it was very unclear what was blocked and what had a hole thru it. :)

I do have a hole as in the diagram of the "unacceptable one". :(
How do I contact them for a replacement?

Excellent, few people have the need to read & understand technical drawings nowadays :-) Yer the drawing was small -- photobucketing 100% size was too big for the thread.

Probably best to contact the reseller or importer in USA and have them replace it for you.

Ciao,

Tone :)
 
my rps1000, just arrived. I haven't even opened the box yet, although I am extremely anxious to get it going. I'll cxheck outr the venturi for prob lems and let you know how everything is going in a couple of days. thanks you all, especially Blockamon and tonyf, for the great ideas, support, etc.
 
I checked my venturi today for the pin hole. No pin hole, good but I noticed the white part was too far into the grey pipe. It was blocking it maybe 15% on the hole in the grey pipe. I use the right sized drill bit and reamed out the extra plastic. I think the skimmer is drawing more air. The bubble level is high in the main chamber(more air, less water) and it changed how the air intake sounded with the silenter off.

So I think it is worth it to check the venturi.
 
Covey and others, thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.

I got the Sedra volute and venturi in today. The first problem is that the assembly is too long. If I use it, I'll need to extend the length of the pump discharge line a little over an inch. I metric coupling should work.

The second issue is that the end of the venturi that would hook to the skimmer appears to be 3/4", which the union is 25mm. However, I might be able to thin the wall of a Sch. 80 3/4" pipe enough to make it mate with the union. It'll be tight though.

I guess I'll try the fix with the stock venturi (and maybe swap the Octopus pump with my OR) before worrying with the Sedra parts.
 
Well, I just got my RPS-2000, and quite frankly, I was blown away! I wasn't expecting too much, despite everyones raves of quality. This thing is certainly worth the monetary risk involved! I've got old saltwater in the skimmer up to the input line level outside, and even without the attachments to my dwyer, this thing appears to be pulling PLENTY of air at this water level, but I'm sure this may change a little bit when I get more water in it. The best I can tell, my venturi is the "correct one" but I'll be sure to pull it and post pics later tonight. I'm not going to notch the o-ring just yet, I'd like to get the dwyer on it first.

I was like a kid at christmas since 8am, when ups.com said it was on a truck for delivery. I was constantly running upstairs and going outside looking for the ups truck lol. I work nights so I eventually went to sleep around noon and when I woke up it was here! My fiance is a little intimidated by it, saying it's TOO big for the 60g system, thinking the old ES 5-2 is sufficient.

I'm loving it, I'm SOOOOO loving it!

Daniel
 
Keep us updated Daniel. That is why I am thinking that the 1000 will be enough for my 60g system. Very few fish maybe three or four nano type fish but mostly for Montipora corals. Man I wish I could order mine today. lol
 
BLockamon, if you use the octo wheel w/ the o/r pump
use the o/r shaft & washers. i ran it it but never hooked it to the skimmer.
 
pump fer it

pump fer it

finally hooked my tank up today...1 1/4 months of piecing things together.everythings running and was thinking that my pump to the rps-2000 i have was a bit strong.im running a MJ-1200.that sound like to much?i noticed when i pinched the hose i got finer,denser bubbles.whats everyone else using to power it?
 
mr. pluto, Thanks for the info. How did the OR work with the octo wheel? Did you get any air numbers?

pirate, a MJ-1200 sounds like a tad much. I'd look at a 600, assuming that you don't have much of a height change.
 
mr. pluto, Thanks. I'm considering going ahead and buying an OR needlewheel, but I can't find one in stock. I guess the fire at AM set them back a bit.
 
Pirate, We've got nearly the same tank setup!

I'm using a MJ-900 that I had laying around, but I pinched the input line as a temp. fix because the 900 is WAY too much, I figure I've got around 50gph actually going through it, but will probably end up shooting for 100-180 in the end.
 
? for 3000 owners

? for 3000 owners

I read earlier in the thread about the 2000 possibly performing more efficiently than the 3000 and also someone commenting that the 3000 was a bit harder to 'dial in' than the 2000.

Do any 3000 owners find it difficult to get the 3000 into its 'groove'?

Any other general feedback on the 3000 in terms of skimming effectiveness versus your previous skimmer? Thanks!

In terms of skimming needs, the 2000 should be fine for me, but I have the space for the 3000 and was just weighing my options. Thanks!
 
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