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I think I may have to turn down my nomination then cause I am in this hobby for fun and this sounds like it might not turn out to be as fun for me in the long run as I thought it might be. Maybe I was looking at it the wrong way.

I thought this was just a fish/reef club but some people are taking this like a launching point for their run in senate or something..lol

Like I said maybe I was looking at all this the wrong way..... Good luck to all the nominees...

I cant wait to see what you guys come up with for this year :thumbsup:
 
This forum is NOT a defacto communication for the club, especially for voting. there are members who are banned from here, or through choice refuse to be members here.

I feel a debate coming on.... While this forum may not be the defacto communicatio for the club as you say, it is however how 99.9% the source of info for all communication & club activities. Just look at the traffic on this forum vs the traffic on the MTRC site. I'm not bashing the other board but this is the key source of info for current & past members along with New visitors.
 
I think I may have to turn down my nomination then cause I am in this hobby for fun and this sounds like it might not turn out to be as fun for me in the long run as I thought it might be.

I can tell you now that being an officer on the BoD isn't a year long party. :) If you aren't willing to work at it, have thick skin and motivate people, it will not be enjoyable.

Unfortunately, I did none of these things and I can attest to its un-fun-itude.

However, you will get out of being on the BoD what you put into it. If you have the drive, you can make this a better club for all the members (and enjoy it at the same time!).
 
I nominate Eyebedam for president if he hasnt already been nominated....:thumbsup:

I can tell you now that being an officer on the BoD isn't a year long party. If you aren't willing to work at it, have thick skin and motivate people, it will not be enjoyable.

Unfortunately, I did none of these things and I can attest to its un-fun-itude.

However, you will get out of being on the BoD what you put into it. If you have the drive, you can make this a better club for all the members (and enjoy it at the same time!).

I know it's not all partying lol but I just didnt think people would take it this seriously...

The putting the time in part I was willing to commit to but I may clash heads with the people that take it so serious...
 
Some seriousness is called for. We have (had?) around 100 members with a nice sum of money in the bank.

I think in the past we have not taken it seriously enough. Of course, it can be overdone.
 
I can tell you now that being an officer on the BoD isn't a year long party. :) If you aren't willing to work at it, have thick skin and motivate people, it will not be enjoyable.

Unfortunately, I did none of these things and I can attest to its un-fun-itude.

However, you will get out of being on the BoD what you put into it. If you have the drive, you can make this a better club for all the members (and enjoy it at the same time!).

I somewhat agree with what you are saying however here are just a few of my thoughts.

1. Why are we in this hobby in the first place? Ill tell you why I am in it. I love it. It is challenging, fun, & very relaxing/rewarding when things are going right.

If it wasnt fun none of us would do it. Now as far as all the election/ BOD discussions go. Being on the BOD should be fun, I dont mean party all the time but you are supposed to be doing it because you enjoy it. Not for a title or to feel like the King. Yeah there are choices that have to be made as to which direction the is going to go I understand that. Also there has to be some sort of structure, but the main purpose of the club is imo, A group of folks that share the same passion for the hobby to come together & share there exp with one another. Also to educate the public & newbies into this hobby we all love. Whether they are wanting to set-up a reef tank or FOWLR or they are just wanting to know ways to help the ocean enviroment.

If it gets all super regulated all it will do is turn people off as far as the club portion goes. People will still keep tanks. I know alot of times I may come off like I dont care but I honestly do, Also most of us are always having to be so structured with work & personal life this club is kinda a outlet to relax & enjoy the hobby with folks that have the same passion as I/we do.


I nominate Eyebedam for president if he hasnt already been nominated....:thumbsup:



I know it's not all partying lol but I just didnt think people would take it this seriously...

The putting the time in part I was willing to commit to but I may clash heads with the people that take it so serious...

Mike thanks man I appreciate the nomination & if no one is opposed to it I accept & will give it my best if the majority agrees. Either way Ill do what I can to make this a more fun & enjoyable exp for all.
 
If it wasnt fun none of us would do it. Now as far as all the election/ BOD discussions go. Being on the BOD should be fun, I dont mean party all the time but you are supposed to be doing it because you enjoy it. Not for a title or to feel like the King.

Being on the BoD is more about leadership and management then it is about keeping an aquarium. 100 people that want accountability for thier $20 fee and participation. Im into keeping aquariums, so I talk on RC. That got me nominated for VP. I suck at leadership and management. Thats also why I sucked as a VP.

Also there has to be some sort of structure, but the main purpose of the club is imo, A group of folks that share the same passion for the hobby to come together & share there exp with one another. Also to educate the public & newbies into this hobby we all love. Whether they are wanting to set-up a reef tank or FOWLR or they are just wanting to know ways to help the ocean enviroment.

Thats a great mission statement for the *club*. It doesn't, however, define all of the responsibilities of a board member.

How do you plan to:
1. come together & share there exp with one another
Well, the obvious answer is meetings. But not everyone is happy with that. Some want more meetings. Some are angry that meetings aren't near them. Some want less meetings. Some just want to be given prizes. Some want better speakers. Some want to drink. Some are strongly opposed to drinking.

2.Also to educate the public & newbies into this hobby we all love
How? The vanderbilt tank, perhaps. That was a great idea. Also the tank in the school we had donations for at the swap. This requires lots of follow through, be warned. Answering questions on RC wont keep everyone happy.


Im not trying point-counterpoint your ideas for president. There are a *lot* of people in the club. I had the same feeling towards it as you did when I went in as VP and it didn't work out. We will all be better off if the people that take office are ready for the actual responsibility of it.
 
Wow. This is a reef club, for gods sake.

I try to enjoy my tank, and simply enjoy talking to others and getting advice once in a while when I rarely decide to venture out of my cave. Some seriousness is called for but it can really be overdone.

JMHO

Vote for Pedro
 
I find it interesting that people feel I am overdoing something that is already in existence..I am not proposing a new rule at all...this is already in the by-laws and I am simply demanding as a member that they be followed. How about *SOME* structure somwhere this year?

Mike, best on your endeavors..perhaps being on the board is not for you..it doesn't mean you cannot participate and help out. I for one think you represent a percentage of members whose feelings align that could use your opnion on the board.

There is a need for some structure..and there has been none. It is why people do not see any value to there being a club. The club is a legal entity..and is capable of alot more, including alot more deals and types of group buys for everyone who are paid members. Alot more awareness and helping the community as a whole (again the Vandy type idea). I definately have ideas of how to help make the club beneficial, and sitting around yakking about fish and having a beer is near the top of the list. The other is how to make it a club again.

There are two sides to the club..fun and participation, and then the business side which it is the responsibility of the board to administer. If it is thought that there is power as an officer, I can tell you from experience, it is the least powerful thing, and everyone has their opinion and will hound you with it. Chuck understands this and is absoulutely right. It's no picnic, and I am probably a big fool to even be willing to take it on at this point, but I feel there is value in this and will serve if the membership wants. I have no interest in serving a club that won't help itself, as it is not the boards job to make sure you have fun. It is the entire clubs job.

If we help eachother have fun, then we all have fun. So Mike, what are you going to do to help everyone have fun? How about you Jason? Beer and a BBQ is a party ( and a great idea that I love)..but it doesn't get the club organized.

The board's job *is* to get the club organized and do it's best to execute the majority of what the members want to implement and do....it is servitude in it's highest form and no one should be ostricized for it by anyone who isn't willing to help out (and that does not mean be a board member, people help as they can with whatever they are willing to help with).

Now my comment on the proposed poisitions is correct because those are comittee chairs, and not board member positons. They should be appointed by the board (of willing volunteers). The President is on each comittee per the by laws...however as a past president of a much larger NPO than this I can tell you unequivocally that a good president lets the folks run with the ball...acts as a blocker and tackler when needed, and helps overcome problems.

Im passionate about this. Rant over. :D
 
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1. I personally would like to vote on any new positions or peps to fill them mainly because appointments=hard feelings. Also, I have opinions that I'd rather express thru anomnious ballots rather than on here (read: I am afraid of all of you.....wait what was that....did you hear something!)

2. This time of year is the only time it gets all "serious" and I kinda want a "serious" dude doing all the hard work so I can screw around at meetings and have the choice to be as active or inactive in various events as I please. (Norman, just for example, is a "serious" dude but is very nice and has done a wonderful job!)

3. With the recent super rules that RC has decided to levy I know a few people who dont participate much on here or have been banned so I agree that "agreement" on RC should not be the end all be all.

4. I like using made up words like "superrules" and "likemindedness"

5. I have not paid my dues yet so I have no right to say any of this...but I am paying tonight so that my post has validity...no really...I am totally paying tonight!

6. I really want to say in all seriousness that I would like everyone to ease up on the attitude/sarcasm/mocking on each other. We are a fun group of fish nerds that respect each other. Passionate...yes, opinionated...no doubt, respectful....well....sometimes! It is hard to moderate tone in written form so lets all be very mindful of how our posts may appear to others......and yes I realize that could sound supernaggy........but I just love you guys (single tear slowly rolls down cheak)!
 
Supernaggy, now that is a word..LOL.. I am not trying to patronize, nor yelling..just pontificating my points....yes, text is hard to get tonal inflection down..and I am sure some are glad as I can be rather loud LOL.

Hmmm... what if the people want what isn't in the bylaws? What are you going to do then?

;)

Brandon, why the by-laws leave a provision for that too :-) draft the propsed change, get 3 members in good standing to sign it, and submit it to the board for review and voting by the membership. (the sign and 3 members are the current by-laws, you could even propose a change to that one too). Any member in good standing can do that.

The by-laws can be changed..and in fact, need some changing. I would only hope people would suggest change that truly benefits the club.
 
I think my comments about this being fun were grossly misunderstood so let me explain.

What I mean by my comments is that the club and even being part of the BOD should be fun... It should not be a chore, if I wanted a chore then I would just work some extra hours at work.

Yes I do understand that work has to be done and that is all well and good, somehow alot of you thought that I wanted to be on the BOD and just try to throw parties all the time and take everything as a joke and nothing else. For those that thought that I cant even begin to explain how WAY OFF you are for thinking that from the comments I made.

So Mike, what are you going to do to help everyone have fun?

I have never been on the BOD so I dont know what we can and cant do so I have no good answer. I guess you must have some really good ideas already to be asking yourself so what are they?

obviously andywe is very passionate about this (a little too much sadly) and wants whats best for the club like we all do hopefully the right people get chosen and dont ruin this for the rest of us.

I miss the days when jack was president...
 
obviously andywe is very passionate about this (a little too much sadly) and wants whats best for the club like we all do hopefully the right people get chosen and dont ruin this for the rest of us.

I miss the days when jack was president...

C'mon man, thats not going to help. This thread has taken a left turn.

I hope we can get this stuff worked out, but its kind of why none of the current BoD is returning.

I've actually walked into the critter and had a conversation (with an aquatic critter employee!!!) about how people were complaining about what a crappy job Wayne, Rhett, Norman and I had done.

Its just a fish club. Some people take it seriously. When you are one of the people that subscribes to "its just a fish club" (like me), its a tough pill to swallow having to deal with a situation like that.

Im just trying to emphasize the responsibilities that come with the position.
 
Just to clear things up chuck before anyone misunderstands

I miss the days when jack was president...

This was not meant to be a cheapshot at any of the BOD members from last year I think that you guys did a great job, everything ran the same way. The only thing that I can say that I did not like was the lack of communication about what was going on in the club.

Other things that bugged me you guys had no control over like meetings not being in nashville more often, but as wayne has stated (And I agree) if no one from nashville volunteers to host a meeting and only people from murfreesboro do then that's where meeting will be held.

Honestly I would have loved for wayne and norman to continue in their roles... I dont know who else was on the BOD to be honest with you but like I said everything got done so everyone must have been good in their respective roles.
 

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