Official Board of Directors Nominations

Unfortunately, I have yet to step p to the plate with a membership commitment so my opinion is of very little meaning here.

I know I helped get a basic plan for the DSM tank tour and I enjoy working with you folks and obviously love seeing other set ups. The problems I have are personal though. Aside from work, my time commitments are great in other aspects of my life.
I can devote more time to my motorcycle hobby because that is also my primary source of transportation. I can devote time to my building hobby as that improves my standard of living and my enviroment.

As it is now, though, my tank is my only sole hobby I have. It serves no purpose other than to entertain, educate, and relax me. Which is a HUGE thing. The problem is, My resources don't allow me to spend as much time or money as I would like on it. I have to prioritize things and beyond making sure my fish are healthy and happy, I tend to ignore the tank for a couple of days at a time.

This isn't a reflection of the group or club at all. It is more an insight into my mindset and I am sure other's mindsets when it comes to prioritizing different aspects of their lives.
Unfortunately, this means that aquariums and the associated involvement sometimes takes a hit. This also spills over to related activities such as a club organization.

Personally, I would love to be able to devote the time to being a secretary for the club. I enjoy organizing things and keeping track of who is doing what and planning events that bring other people enjoyment. But in a busy life, such things sometimes have to be pushed onto the back burner.

The club dues ammount is more than fair. The club as a resource is worth every penny one would invest. The problem lies in investing in something and then seeing little if any return. I am refering to once a board is selected and dues are paid, what is to say that suddenly, there is little interest to continue forward? Intentions being what they are, it is hard to forsee personal problems arising and time contraints increasing so that one is unable to focus on duties related to a hobby over more serious life tasks.

I have reached the point in my diatribe where I am rambling. I guess my big point is, what has held me back from commiting my membership dues is that there is the posibility that I invest my money and then suddenly due to circumstances none really can forsee, either leadership falls apart or can't maintain the task at hand to keep the club interesting.

Bah. I am too fatalistic sometimes. I would love to see the club be active and to take a role that helps get the club to that point. But I also don't want to step up to the proverbial plate and fail because something else in my life takes presidence, thus effecting others besides myself.

Ramblin' Ryan
 
Hey, we've all got other things going on.

I'm not sure whether you're concerned that you're not going to have enough time for the club, or that you won't get your money's worth? The latter will never be a concern, there are simply too many interested people. If it's the former, I'll say it again: we've all got other things going on :)

No worries man!

/edit: reread your post. Must have been the former, and in that case see bolded above!
 
My friendship fees are more than $20/month so a one-year membership to GIRS is a great deal in comparison! :lmao:
 
ZLTFUL

I understand your personal views on whether you can devote time to being a club representitive.

However I take offense to you stating that you are worried about the minimal amount of membership dues that you could lose because the club is not interesting to you.

This club has suffered the loss of some great members or seen some members have to take down their tanks this year. Others have followed in their footsteps to keep this club going.
The membership price is more than fair and just coming here and getting info or discussing this great hobby with us is alone justification for what membership costs.

You come here now and participate in our discussions without being a member and no one thinks twice about it. That is fine....however to come here and act as a member and are treated as one and then say you wont join because your worried that its not a good value is quite irritating to me.

To talk about being a board member when you are not even a member of the club and have doubts about whether our club is a good value is ridiculous to me.

I also think it is also a vote of non-confidence in the face of the current board members and future board members who DO volunteer their time and efforts to make our club a better entity on a very regular basis.

Please.....If you can find a better value than this group of people, TAKE IT.

Sorry if I am a bit forward on this but I couldnt let this one go....

/rant off/

einsteins
 
My personal opinion is that dues are too cheap anyway. But we want memberships. Remember that the BOD that has worked their butts off for us does so with absolutely no pay. It even costs them money out of their pockets (gas for bod meetings, letters, phone calls, etc). To think that you wont get $20 of use out of the club is crazy.
 
OK. Well, I wasn't attacking the club. And I was looking for reassurance that if I did take that leap and got involved, that it would be worth it to others not just something I am doing for myself. I believe you misunderstood me. Frankly, replacing good members involves bringing in new members. Way to do your part.
 
And just something to note, my involvement was definitely going to be above and beyond a $20 pittance to join the "club". If it was an issue of cash, I would have said that outright.

But for someone to sacrifice their time for others with little or no acknowledgment is something else. And frankly, I could care less about thanks or the like. What I do care about is others getting value for their time. I am sorry if thinking of others upsets you.

Not politics here, but "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

But whatever. I know enough to back off when I am not wanted. Excuse me for trying to bring the perspective of a potential member to light in these earth moving deliberations. It's obvious how you feel about "non members" giving their input.

On that note, my contributions to this thread are over.
 
You all had to know I couldn't stay out of this one....

I have reread ZLTFUL's thread 5 times and I still have not figured out why someone would post what seems like inner monologue to an open forum. I am not going to bash or flame anyone I am just going to agree... You are right.

You are too busy, you do have higher priority commitments, you would not make a good officer for this club, your money and time would be better spent elsewhere.

Please move on and think about comming back when you are ready.


As for our dues discussion... I personally believe that if anyone uses our forum here on RC you have gotten more than $20 worth. The rest of the club activities are just icing on the cake. I do not belong to any other club that you have immeadiate access to so many experts for only $20 a year... That is $1.67 a month, you can't even feed a kid in africa for that... My other clubs are all around $50 to $100 or more for a year and you are lucky to be able to talk to anyone that is willing to share their years of experiance.

We originally set the price at $20 to allow even those without much to be able to afford to be part of the group. That $20 has proven to be more than enough to bring in some great speakers,perform activities, and we still have funding to do even more... Your tiny $20 donation is nothing by its self (not even half a tank of gas anymore, but combined with everyone else's it has a powerful ability to sustain this club and great local resource for you to utilize. Even if you cannot make it to a speaker that your $20 paid for there are 100 others that did and are more than willing to pass their new found knowledge on to you. You will NEVER get ripped off in this organization. There will always be value and someone there to catch the torch of leadership if another happens to stumble or fall.

My name is Atticus and I approve this message... :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984281#post10984281 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ZLTFUL
And just something to note, my involvement was definitely going to be above and beyond a $20 pittance to join the "club". If it was an issue of cash, I would have said that outright.
Sorry if we were confused as you eluded to cash multiple times in your original post.

But for someone to sacrifice their time for others with little or no acknowledgment is something else. And frankly, I could care less about thanks or the like. What I do care about is others getting value for their time. I am sorry if thinking of others upsets you.
It would be easier to understand you were thinking of others if you would have mentioned the others instead of dwelling on how this would affect YOU. Guess that was another source of confusion on our part.

Not politics here, but "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
Can't argue with JFK, but I can ask what you planned on doing for your "country" as it were as you never stated your plans only doubts and critisism.

But whatever. I know enough to back off when I am not wanted. Excuse me for trying to bring the perspective of a potential member to light in these earth moving deliberations. It's obvious how you feel about "non members" giving their input.
On that note, my contributions to this thread are over.
You for one should know how we treat nonmembers. I believe you have posted in this forum for about a year and we have done nothing but encourage and help you. We never once asked you to become a member we never excluded you or anyone from our discussions or activities. We treat everyone with equal respect and as part of our little Iowa reef geek family. If this is the quality of "input" you plan on giving to our family then you are right to move on. God bless you and yours.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984353#post10984353 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pygmey
Wait.. I think you can feed a kid in africa for that.. The commercial says so!

I thought I removed that line... Doh

If anyone was going to catch it I should have figured it would be you Eric. Good to see you around again. Hopefully I can run into you at a meeting sometime.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984721#post10984721 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwood
I'd forgotten how entertaining this board can be. Especially during this time of year! :D

You are not kidding. I almost thought we made it through without incident this year.
 
You're forgetting that Pet Foods and Aquatics employee incident, are you not?

I think most everyone misread his post, including myself, though I erred on the side of optimism.

I've been on the wrong end of misunderstandings as well, though my best was inadvertently threatening physical harm to dacharisma (still feel bad about that one!)

Hope you reconsider, it's always a shame to lose a member of any community. The only expectation I have of anyone is that occasionally they let ME help THEM with their tanks once in a while. I like this hobby way too much. :)
 
That is the bad thing about type, you cant hear the inflection in your voice or see the expression on your face.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984833#post10984833 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryansholl
You're forgetting that Pet Foods and Aquatics employee incident, are you not?...
I've been on the wrong end of misunderstandings as well, though my best was inadvertently threatening physical harm to dacharisma (still feel bad about that one!)...

Alright, now I have to look up what's been going on in my absence! :eek2: Anyone care to give me the quick rundown?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10984833#post10984833 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryansholl
You're forgetting that Pet Foods and Aquatics employee incident, are you not?


YES, WE ARE FORGETTING THAT and MOVING ON!!! :D :strooper: :lol:

Note my inflection and facial expressions....
 
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