OK! Enough chat...Starting a 1000g+ Reef
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jnarowe
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Kent E No way Jose! Our water table is high enough already. I have been very fortunate that we do not have any moisture coming up though the slab and I do not want to screw with that. The way it would have to be done is to wreck out a path for a drain line and it just gets to complicated for my feeble head.
Being in the Northwest creates water issues that must be very carefully managed. Our home is on a gentle sloped lot 180 x 600 with a creek running length-wise about 70' from the house and meeting a stream about 350' down-slope from the house. The hard pan is at about 2-3' below the surface and a significant area of our back yard is sand. We have a Weeping Alaska Cedar that was just under 6' when we planted it in 100% sand in 1998. It is now about 30' tall. Shall we estimate that there is a lot of water and nutrients flowing through the property??
Anyway, no holes under the house. I wouldn't want to create a spa for the Norwegian rats!
WAGERJA Thanks for the thumbs up. I need it right now.
Being in the Northwest creates water issues that must be very carefully managed. Our home is on a gentle sloped lot 180 x 600 with a creek running length-wise about 70' from the house and meeting a stream about 350' down-slope from the house. The hard pan is at about 2-3' below the surface and a significant area of our back yard is sand. We have a Weeping Alaska Cedar that was just under 6' when we planted it in 100% sand in 1998. It is now about 30' tall. Shall we estimate that there is a lot of water and nutrients flowing through the property??
Anyway, no holes under the house. I wouldn't want to create a spa for the Norwegian rats!
WAGERJA Thanks for the thumbs up. I need it right now.
jnarowe
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I have seen furnaces installed that way here too, and quite frankly, that is essentially a bogus way to do it. That's paying a professional to do an amatuer job. The inside unit on the heat pump at my store has a drain line going below the floor also. That is just for condensation run-off though, so the water accumulation aspect would be minimal if any. The floor is also 1 foot thick. Still not a good idea to run water under a building.
I have a neighbor who just built a house and he put in such extensive drainage under and around the pad you wouldn't believe it. The whole thing is on top of what amounts to a drain field, crushed rock, styrofoam, with heating coils in the pad. He built on the last "lot" that was basically a marsh. The coyotes howled for 2 weeks after they cleared the lot.
I have a neighbor who just built a house and he put in such extensive drainage under and around the pad you wouldn't believe it. The whole thing is on top of what amounts to a drain field, crushed rock, styrofoam, with heating coils in the pad. He built on the last "lot" that was basically a marsh. The coyotes howled for 2 weeks after they cleared the lot.
jnarowe
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OK, finally got something done. Below are the pictures of the drywall taped, muded, and sanded. Ready to paint!
That was a miserable job, and for those of you trying to learn something from this thread, I have some of tidbits you should take notes on:
1. Do NOT open your mouth while applying mud to the ceiling.
2. Do NOT leave supply boxes and especially open tool caddies in the room while you mud and tape.
3. Do NOT clean the floor before you mud and tape.
4. Do NOT do this kind of work without a hat.
5. Do NOT wear the same shoes you work in around the house.
BTW, I know it's a bit hard to see, but that thing in the corner is the tank.
That was a miserable job, and for those of you trying to learn something from this thread, I have some of tidbits you should take notes on:
1. Do NOT open your mouth while applying mud to the ceiling.
2. Do NOT leave supply boxes and especially open tool caddies in the room while you mud and tape.
3. Do NOT clean the floor before you mud and tape.
4. Do NOT do this kind of work without a hat.
5. Do NOT wear the same shoes you work in around the house.
BTW, I know it's a bit hard to see, but that thing in the corner is the tank.
Lunchbucket
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at least you are making progress!
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jnarowe
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HOP: Fun ended? Don't forget I still have to strip that damn floor and polish the tank before I can even get near the fun stuff.
SVTour: Got to compliment you on yuor drywall instalation. It looks quite a bit nicer than mine. You know I used 7-1/2 gallons of mud inside my fish room?
And that brings me to an amendment of my previous post:
6. For all you reefers that understand the phrase, "horribly innaccurate", I add those project calculators at Home Depot, which told me I would need under 3 gallons of mud, 7 less sheets of green board, and about 1000 less screws.
SVTour: Got to compliment you on yuor drywall instalation. It looks quite a bit nicer than mine. You know I used 7-1/2 gallons of mud inside my fish room?
And that brings me to an amendment of my previous post:
6. For all you reefers that understand the phrase, "horribly innaccurate", I add those project calculators at Home Depot, which told me I would need under 3 gallons of mud, 7 less sheets of green board, and about 1000 less screws.
jnarowe
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Quick update:
Took all day to put on one coat of bilge paint and it soaked in like a sponge. I guess the sales rep. was wrong when she said I didn't need any primer. It's good stuff but wow, what an odor!! I can feel the good brain cells pushing the bad ones under the bus right now.
Second coat tommorrow, if i wake up.
Took all day to put on one coat of bilge paint and it soaked in like a sponge. I guess the sales rep. was wrong when she said I didn't need any primer. It's good stuff but wow, what an odor!! I can feel the good brain cells pushing the bad ones under the bus right now.
Second coat tommorrow, if i wake up.
rjwilson37
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lol, that is pretty funny! If I Wake Up! hehehehe.
I need some light humor right now, I have put in an 80 hour work week so far.
I need some light humor right now, I have put in an 80 hour work week so far.
jnarowe
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80 hours is way too much. I hope you aren't working for someone else!!
Here's a pic of the room after the 3rd coat of paint. I got so looped on the 2nd coat that I thinned it too much and only used a half gallon for the entire room. oooops!
You can see I decided to rig up one of the 6" fans to help with ventillation, and it went much better today, taking a normal amount of time to coat the room. That was 2 hours rather than 6 on each of the first coats!
Nice fan. I have 3 of them given to me by a friend. They really hum.
Here's a pic of the room after the 3rd coat of paint. I got so looped on the 2nd coat that I thinned it too much and only used a half gallon for the entire room. oooops!
You can see I decided to rig up one of the 6" fans to help with ventillation, and it went much better today, taking a normal amount of time to coat the room. That was 2 hours rather than 6 on each of the first coats!
Nice fan. I have 3 of them given to me by a friend. They really hum.
tgunn
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Looking good! Wow, those are some shiny walls! You can just hose the place clean when it get's dirty!
I know what you mean about fumes; I made the mistake of priming my stippled ceiling with alkyd primer in the middle of the winter (ie no windows opened). I got so whacked out of it that I stepped in the paint tray and then knocked it over while trying to pick it up.
If you're doing more work with that stuff pick up a half face respirator; it saved me a lot of brain cells.
Tyler
I know what you mean about fumes; I made the mistake of priming my stippled ceiling with alkyd primer in the middle of the winter (ie no windows opened). I got so whacked out of it that I stepped in the paint tray and then knocked it over while trying to pick it up.
If you're doing more work with that stuff pick up a half face respirator; it saved me a lot of brain cells.
Tyler
SVTour
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Thanks for the compliment...once it's sanded, primed, and painted, they all look the same
As for your HD estimate...my wife is thinking I have the same great ability. When I got into saltwater, I told her it was a few hundred dollar upgrade to my existing tank. I have just under 4 grand in my 90...and another 2 in a 220 that's not even filled yet :lol: It's only money...right?
SVTour
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She does all the bills...so there's absolutley no hiding it for me.
quote: I have a respirator but I just plain hate wearing it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice health for style!
Yeah, but who wants to blow plaster shnoogies for the following 24 hours. Actually, you probably could have saved a gallon of spakle just by reusing it. :lol:
quote: I have a respirator but I just plain hate wearing it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice health for style!
Yeah, but who wants to blow plaster shnoogies for the following 24 hours. Actually, you probably could have saved a gallon of spakle just by reusing it. :lol:
jnarowe
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Joey I will be finding spackle(mud) for years I am sure.
Got the overhead lights and the main power panel installed today. It's amazing how long things take when I am trying to prevent moisture damage.
The stripper is taking its sweet time so I still have the plastic down on the first half of the room. I pulled it up today and added a little water.
I tested out my micro-mesh polishing kit today and am very happy with the results. Didn't take as long as I thought and it looks very good. Of course, polishing the whole tank will be quite a chore. I will do the entire top side of the tank tommorrow.
Got the overhead lights and the main power panel installed today. It's amazing how long things take when I am trying to prevent moisture damage.
The stripper is taking its sweet time so I still have the plastic down on the first half of the room. I pulled it up today and added a little water.
I tested out my micro-mesh polishing kit today and am very happy with the results. Didn't take as long as I thought and it looks very good. Of course, polishing the whole tank will be quite a chore. I will do the entire top side of the tank tommorrow.
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