SNAKEMANVET
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You need more tanks lol,I will try some crushed up mysis this afternoon.Congrats on a job well done.
Peeping Banggai Fry
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shandy_say
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Hahhahah! Wish that was even possible.
edandsandy
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shandy_say
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Thanks edandsandy! Were you able to catch your male already?
edandsandy
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No, not yet 
he is still holding the eggs/fry...... I think we will try again tonight.....
wish us luck!
he is still holding the eggs/fry...... I think we will try again tonight.....wish us luck!
shandy_say
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Good luck! You can do it! 
edandsandy
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Well, you are never going to believe what happen when I signed off RC this morning......
I went downstairs to do a water change out, and I have 2 fish traps in the tank. 1 very large one because our magnificent fox face have taken a liken to some of the sps and the other was a small breeders fish box... one on the hairy mushrooms decided to move and I caught it and placed it in the small breeders fish box. Then I looked in the small breeders fish box and their he was, our male Banggai was in the box.
So we quickly set up the 10g tank and moved him in. His mouth is so full, we noticed he let one of the babies go, it looks like a big orange ball, with a little tail and 2 big eyes. It is just sitting on the bottom....
We have BBS making now, they will be ready tomorrow morning.
What do I do now, besides wait?
Oh, and thanks for the good luck shady say !
I went downstairs to do a water change out, and I have 2 fish traps in the tank. 1 very large one because our magnificent fox face have taken a liken to some of the sps and the other was a small breeders fish box... one on the hairy mushrooms decided to move and I caught it and placed it in the small breeders fish box. Then I looked in the small breeders fish box and their he was, our male Banggai was in the box.
So we quickly set up the 10g tank and moved him in. His mouth is so full, we noticed he let one of the babies go, it looks like a big orange ball, with a little tail and 2 big eyes. It is just sitting on the bottom....
We have BBS making now, they will be ready tomorrow morning.
What do I do now, besides wait?
Oh, and thanks for the good luck shady say !
edandsandy
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Now we have 3 orange blogs on the bottom of the tank I think he is spitting them out before it time.....
What do you think about scooping them up and put them in a smaller bowl with air bubbles slowly moving them?
I think he is spitting them out before it time..... What do you think about scooping them up and put them in a smaller bowl with air bubbles slowly moving them?
shandy_say
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Thats good. However if they are still orange then that means that they aren't ready yet and they still have their egg sacks attached to them. What you can do now is to make an egg tumbler with some plastic pipes and an aerator and slowly tumble them so they will be kept suspended.
edandsandy
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Thanks,
We placed a 2ltr. Coke bottle with the bottom cut out upside down
In the holding tank with a small air stone, they are being lightly tumbled. We added newly hatch bbs this morning. We have 5 babies now,
Only 1 dosent look so good. The male looks like he is still holding eggs/fry in his
Mouth.
We placed a 2ltr. Coke bottle with the bottom cut out upside down
In the holding tank with a small air stone, they are being lightly tumbled. We added newly hatch bbs this morning. We have 5 babies now,
Only 1 dosent look so good. The male looks like he is still holding eggs/fry in his
Mouth.
shandy_say
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most probably he still has some in his mouth. Leave him alone for the meantime. The fry arent ready yet so maybe in a week or so you can force him to release the fry by catching him. Good luck edandsandy! You can do it! heheh!
edandsandy
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Thanks shandy say
edandsandy
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We lost all the orange blobs
But I can tell he still has fry/eggs in his mouth.....
He is looking very thin now as well. What do you think about me leaving him in the breeder tank for a few weeks and let him get a little weight on him?
Do you think he will loose his mate?
But I can tell he still has fry/eggs in his mouth.....
He is looking very thin now as well. What do you think about me leaving him in the breeder tank for a few weeks and let him get a little weight on him?
Do you think he will loose his mate?
shandy_say
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I think that should be ok. Some people actually suggest doing that after a batch just to get the male to fatten up again.
Actually my 3rd batch of eggs was aborted by my male. It was just a week after he released his 2nd batch of fry when i saw he was holding on to another clutch of eggs. It was just too soon i guess. IMO they will instinctively abort the eggs when they aren't ready yet. But ofcourse, its better to be safe than sorry.
Actually my 3rd batch of eggs was aborted by my male. It was just a week after he released his 2nd batch of fry when i saw he was holding on to another clutch of eggs. It was just too soon i guess. IMO they will instinctively abort the eggs when they aren't ready yet. But ofcourse, its better to be safe than sorry.
edandsandy
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Sorry to hear about the 3rd batch... But I think you are right on with the male spitting out the eggs if he is not ready to hold on for survivability sake.
I'm a latecomer, but In case it helps, here's what I do. 5-10 days after my pair spawns I wait until lights out and the male is asleep. I turn on the lights (similar to technique with the flashlight above) and net him/specimin box him. Sometimes its easy, sometimes hard. I gently get a hold of his tail and pull him up out of the water so his nose is pointing down into the net. He spits the eggs out. I tumble them in a simple DIY tumbler until they hatch. This allows the male a LOT more eating time between spawns which should increase his life span from what I understand. My guy is nice a fat!
shandy_say
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@edandsandy - yeah me too. But i guess its all for the best. I don't want to stress out my male too much from breeding. I might need to either keep a pair from one of the batches or get a new pair and put them in a breeding tank. Have to setup another tank if i want to keep on breeding.
@kbb0118 - Turning the lights on suddenly should also work the same way as they will be temporarily blinded. However i can't use that cause my MH turns on slowly. So kinda defeats the purpose. hehe! Hows your hatching rate with the tumbler? I read before that usually there are more casualties when using the tumbler. Is this true?
@kbb0118 - Turning the lights on suddenly should also work the same way as they will be temporarily blinded. However i can't use that cause my MH turns on slowly. So kinda defeats the purpose. hehe! Hows your hatching rate with the tumbler? I read before that usually there are more casualties when using the tumbler. Is this true?
Ah yeah MH's wouldn't quite stun them. I've got LEDs :eek1:
So the tumbler - I've tried everything from a brine shrimp hatching cone to shotglass/aqualifter to that simple PVC tumbler. My biggest killer is stupid nitrAtes because my breeding system is also my growout system and mysid generator. Now that I have those kindof under control my survival rate is much improved - about 75% now in general. I can't say whether the tumbler is better or worse because my male won't hold full term - so technically my survival rate is 100% better than if I left the male with the eggs.
Now if only I could get the rest of my pairs to spawn...
So the tumbler - I've tried everything from a brine shrimp hatching cone to shotglass/aqualifter to that simple PVC tumbler. My biggest killer is stupid nitrAtes because my breeding system is also my growout system and mysid generator. Now that I have those kindof under control my survival rate is much improved - about 75% now in general. I can't say whether the tumbler is better or worse because my male won't hold full term - so technically my survival rate is 100% better than if I left the male with the eggs.
Now if only I could get the rest of my pairs to spawn...
shandy_say
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I see. How many pairs do you have anyway? Usually banggais dont hold to full term during their 1st few clutches. Mine actually didn't hold until about the 5th clutch.
Just one pair of banggai until some of my little guys are big enough to find mates for.
I have bonded pairs of black and white ocellaris, orange ocellaris, flame angelfish, green mandarin, diamond watchman gobies, and skunk cleaner. I collect ocellaris larvae from a neighbor tank while I'm waiting for mine to get busy. I've had the B&W's for ever...they are taking too long! I was going to get into designer clowns, but ORA keeps taking all my good ideas :lmao:
I do a lot of live foods to bide my time that I sell locally to pay for my fish addiction - rotifers, live mysids, and brine shrimp.
I have bonded pairs of black and white ocellaris, orange ocellaris, flame angelfish, green mandarin, diamond watchman gobies, and skunk cleaner. I collect ocellaris larvae from a neighbor tank while I'm waiting for mine to get busy. I've had the B&W's for ever...they are taking too long! I was going to get into designer clowns, but ORA keeps taking all my good ideas :lmao:
I do a lot of live foods to bide my time that I sell locally to pay for my fish addiction - rotifers, live mysids, and brine shrimp.
