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[NYCEnglish]

Upgrading to a 75g mixed reef with 30g sump. I'm thinking of the following fish list:

2 Perculas (one is 3", the other 1.5" - both with me for almost 3 years)
1 Blue Star Leopard Wrasse (3" - with me for 3 years, eating prepared foods)
1 Blue Spot Jawfish
1 Kole Tang
1 Mimic Saddle Puffer Filefish
1 Green Mandarin (only if eating prepared foods)

How does this look? Any potential compatibility issues etc? Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

I had heard that about the arrow, which had me a bit conflicted - should keeping it well fed negate some of that risk, or will the size of the fish I want do the same, or is it simply down to the personality of that crab?

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. I would not normally comment on invertebrates except as they affect fish. To reduce bristle worms, however, feed less.

Is there something else less of a risk to the fish that might help control the bristle worm population?

To clarify, since I don't plan on ornamental shrimp the hawkfish should be fine?

Yes.

I DO plan on setting up a small tank of shrimp for food... I am currently feeding frozen.

 

[snorvich]

Upgrading to a 75g mixed reef with 30g sump. I'm thinking of the following fish list:

2 Perculas (one is 3", the other 1.5" - both with me for almost 3 years)
1 Blue Star Leopard Wrasse (3" - with me for 3 years, eating prepared foods)
1 Blue Spot Jawfish for long term success, cooler temperatures are required
1 Kole Tang
1 Mimic Saddle Puffer Filefish will nip your fishes fins
1 Green Mandarin (only if eating prepared foods) the leopard wrasse and mandarin will compete for food and the leopard wrasse will win to the detriment of the mandarin who will starve in the long run.

How does this look? Any potential compatibility issues etc? Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

 

[NYCEnglish]

Thanks - good point about the Jawfish. Even if the Mandarin is eating prepared foods (and I'm target feeding), do you still think it will starve in the long run?

 

[snorvich]

Thanks - good point about the Jawfish. Even if the Mandarin is eating prepared foods (and I'm target feeding), do you still think it will starve in the long run?

Mandarins are slow, and deliberate. Leopard wrasses are fast and expedient. Which one do you think will win out competing for food? It is somewhat of a myth about sustaining mandarins with prepared foods only as opposed to sufficient copepod feeding. In perfect circumstances, with no competitors, and an aquarist who feeds multiple times per day, it can be done. But the odds are against success in the vast majority of circumstances that are less than this perfect scenario. However this topic is well beyond the scope of this thread and other folks will have differing opinions. Since this thread is not answered by anyone except me, if you want the dissenting opinions, post in Reef Fish.

 

[NYCEnglish]

Thanks Steve.

 

[jahmic]

I'm upgrading to an 85 gallon tank with a 25 gallon sump. The fish I currently have in my 28g nanocube that I plan on adding are:

Yellow Coris Wrasse (~3.5")
Lubbocks Fairy Wrasse (3")
Diamond Goby (2.5")
Chalk Basslet (3")

For the new system, I would like to add:

Pair of Oscellaris clownfish
Kole Tang

The tank has about 65lbs of rock in the display, and another 20lbs in the fuge. I'm running chaeto and have a CADlights skimmer for additional filtration. The rockwork in the display is arranged as 3 pillars of varying height, so I don't have a long wall of rock and caves, but there are plenty of tunnels, overhangs, and caves in the pillars since I carved some of the rocks out and stacked them with mortar. The tank will be stocked with BTAs and maybe a nice mini maxi nem...attempting to stick with a species tank on this one.

I don't want to overstock the tank, do you think I'm at a reasonable bioload with my stocking list? I won't be upgrading, so the fish are going to be in here long term. I'm also wondering about the order that I should add fish. I planned on putting the Kole tang in last, but am thinking that the clowns might have to go in first since I'd likely be acquiring juveniles.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance for the help :beer:

 

[snorvich]

I'm upgrading to an 85 gallon tank with a 25 gallon sump. The fish I currently have in my 28g nanocube that I plan on adding are:

Yellow Coris Wrasse (~3.5")
Lubbocks Fairy Wrasse (3")
Diamond Goby (2.5")
Chalk Basslet (3")

For the new system, I would like to add:

Pair of Oscellaris clownfish
Kole Tang

The tank has about 65lbs of rock in the display, and another 20lbs in the fuge. I'm running chaeto and have a CADlights skimmer for additional filtration. The rockwork in the display is arranged as 3 pillars of varying height, so I don't have a long wall of rock and caves, but there are plenty of tunnels, overhangs, and caves in the pillars since I carved some of the rocks out and stacked them with mortar. The tank will be stocked with BTAs and maybe a nice mini maxi nem...attempting to stick with a species tank on this one.

I don't want to overstock the tank, do you think I'm at a reasonable bioload with my stocking list?

Yes, it should not be a problem

I won't be upgrading, so the fish are going to be in here long term. I'm also wondering about the order that I should add fish. I planned on putting the Kole tang in last, but am thinking that the clowns might have to go in first since I'd likely be acquiring juveniles.

Most aggressive is always last, so the Kole tang should be last. Clownfish must be juveniles since any progression towards sexual mature should be done when they are together so the bonding process will be successful.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance for the help :beer:

 

[jahmic]

Thanks for the input. Do you think I'd run into aggression issues if I decided to add the juvenile clownfish after the wrasses? Both wrasses tend to flare up a little at new additions, but I wasn't sure if the clowns would get picked on due to their small size.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for the input. Do you think I'd run into aggression issues if I decided to add the juvenile clownfish after the wrasses? Both wrasses tend to flare up a little at new additions, but I wasn't sure if the clowns would get picked on due to their small size.

In general, it is not a size issue (although the "prevailing wisdom" is that similar sized fish do not get along) it is actually whether or not the fish inhabit the same ecological niche. In this case, any interest in the clownfish would be temporary or non-existent.

 

[battlelurker]

34g solana cube. 20x20x20
mixed reef
~2-3 inch sand bed
~30-25 lbs dry rock, seeded with live rock

Planning on adding:
1-2 False perc clown
1-2 firefish or purple dartfish
1 diamond watchman goby
1 pearly jawfish
and would like a flame angel or coral beauty, but Im not sure with the corals and potential aggression

Also was thinking about a small reef safe wrasse or clown goby, not sure what to replace them with though. And is it possible to have a jawfish and goby together?

thanks!

 

[snorvich]

34g solana cube. 20x20x20
mixed reef
~2-3 inch sand bed more needed for a jawfish
~30-25 lbs dry rock, seeded with live rock

Planning on adding:
1-2 False perc clown
1-2 firefish or purple dartfish firefish can only be kept in male plus female pairs or singly
1 diamond watchman goby
1 pearly jawfish pick the goby or jawfish but not both and remember the jawfish is a prolific jumper
and would like a flame angel or coral beauty, but Im not sure with the corals and potential aggression should be fine but not coral safe

Also was thinking about a small reef safe wrasse needs a larger tank and is a prolific jumper

or clown goby, not sure what to replace them with though. And is it possible to have a jawfish and goby together? yes

thanks!

 

[battlelurker]

Thanks!

 

[johnson19]

i have a coral beauty and i was woundering if you thought that i could add a flame back angel fish in with it. or d oyou think they would fight?

 

[snorvich]

i have a coral beauty and i was woundering if you thought that i could add a flame back angel fish in with it. or d oyou think they would fight?

depends on tank size

 

[johnson19]

125g what u think

 

[snorvich]

125g what u think

Of course it also depends on other tank inhabitants but in 125g those two fish may squabble for a day, but after one lights out, it should be fine.

 

[tommyhrs]

Thank you for doing this mostly thankless job.
40b 30g sump RDSB 55lbs LR 3/4" sandbed in display intended for mixed reef.
Cleanup crew added Wednesday included 2 Bstars 6 hermits and about 60 various snails.
Looking to add over the next few months or so.
1 Firefish
1 Bicolored Blenny
2 or 3 fairy Wrasse genius TBD later
1 Gold Striped Maroon Clown
several various corals (softies and LPS)

Anything look like a problem?

 

[snorvich]

Thank you for doing this mostly thankless job.
40b 30g sump RDSB 55lbs LR 3/4" sandbed in display intended for mixed reef.
Cleanup crew added Wednesday included 2 Bstars 6 hermits and about 60 various snails.
Looking to add over the next few months or so.
1 Firefish
1 Bicolored Blenny
2 or 3 fairy Wrasse genius TBD later fairy wrasses of any genus require a larger tank
1 Gold Striped Maroon Clown GSM will want to own about 50 gallons of tank space once mature and they are very aggressive to any other fish in their space
several various corals (softies and LPS)

Anything look like a problem?

as indicated

 

[starrme]

I have a 75g tank with 29g sump that has been set up ~3 weeks. 75g LR + octopus protein skimmer. Planning for reef tank with soft coral and a few lps.

Here is my planned stocking list. I would also appreciate any thoughts on stocking order.

- Yellow watchman goby with shrimp
- Banggai Cardinalfish (pair)
- Blue/green chromis (x5)
- One spot foxface
- Longnose Hawkfish
- Clownfish (pair)

Thanks!