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[snorvich]

Just one clown. I'm hesitant to add another since she's been alone for a year.

I'm thinking Flame Angel.

Flame angel would like do fine

 

[mudcat1]

My son would like to add a Royal Gramma to his 24 gallon nanocube. For filtration I use 2 sponges and filter floss in the first chamber, rubble rock (no bioballs) in chamber 2. I use about 20 lbs of live lock in the display area.

He currently has the following livestock in the tank:
Yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp pair
Yellow banded possum wrasse
Ocellaris clownfish
Tailspot blenny
Peppermint shrimp
1 Turbo snail
4 Astrea snails
4 Blue leg hermit crabs

Corals:
Waving hand
Xenia
Toadstool
Mushroom
Kenya trees
Zoas
Green polys

Currently all of his tankmates get along well. Do you think the Royal Gramma will be a good addition to his tank?

 

[snorvich]

My son would like to add a Royal Gramma to his 24 gallon nanocube. For filtration I use 2 sponges and filter floss in the first chamber, rubble rock (no bioballs) in chamber 2. I use about 20 lbs of live lock in the display area.

He currently has the following livestock in the tank:
Yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp pair
Yellow banded possum wrasse
Ocellaris clownfish
Tailspot blenny
Peppermint shrimp
1 Turbo snail
4 Astrea snails
4 Blue leg hermit crabs

Corals:
Waving hand
Xenia
Toadstool
Mushroom
Kenya trees
Zoas
Green polys

Currently all of his tankmates get along well. Do you think the Royal Gramma will be a good addition to his tank?

They can be territorial, especially in a small tank. It may work as it will be the last fish added but I can not say for certain.

 

[mudcat1]

They can be territorial, especially in a small tank. It may work as it will be the last fish added but I can not say for certain.

snorvich, thanks for the advice. Fortunately it will be the last fish he is planning to add to his nanocube. He says does intend to add more corals and invertibrates. Possibly a mini carpet nem and a cleaner shrimp. I don't think he should do the nem but that Christmas money is burning a hole in his pocket

 

[snorvich]

snorvich, thanks for the advice. Fortunately it will be the last fish he is planning to add to his nanocube. He says does intend to add more corals and invertibrates. Possibly a mini carpet nem and a cleaner shrimp. I don't think he should do the nem but that Christmas money is burning a hole in his pocket

I can relate to his problem (fortunately I stopped doing that) but I would side with your reluctance

 

[djatl]

I'm setting up a 65g FOWLR with a 15g sump, and just beginning to cycle with 12 lbs of uncured live rock and 50 lbs of dry rock. I added 40 lbs of aragonite sand and 20 lbs of packaged live sand. While I wait for the tank/live rock to cycle, I thought I'd finalize my stocking list for a mixed community tank.

Initial Stocking (initial ramp-up)
7 Blue-Green Chromis
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
2 Pajama Cardinal (and/or Banggai Cardinal)
1 Diamond Bar Goby (and other gobies/blennies?)
1 Royal Gramma
1 Longnose Hawkfish

Options for Later:
1 Longfin Bannerfish
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Green Mandarin (if I set up a refugium)
1 Yellow Tang (if I upgrade to a 5' 125g tank)

This is roughly the order I was planning to introduce them after the cycle is established. Any suggestions on stocking order, better combinations, or substitutions?

I had some specific questions on my choices also.
- If I get the Longnose Hawkfish, what kind of cleaning crew should I go with? I've read they eat a lot of the standard options.
- Any gobies or blennies that are compatible with the Diamond Bar Goby? I like the sand-sifters, but I'm not sure how much room I have for similar fish.

Thanks in advance!

 

[3Watt]

That's a lot of fish for a 65 gallon. But it's your tank. I hope you have a good skimmer and plan on staying diligent with maintenance.

It's been my experience that the hawks I've owned will generally leave snails alone if kept well fed but would eat hermits and ornamental shrimp no matter what.

Personally I would stay away from the sand sifting gobies. They sift for food and it doesn't take long for them to wipe out the life in a healthy bed. Once that happens it's hard to keep them in enough food and they eventually starve to death. But if you must I would add any other bottom dwelling fish you desire first so that territories can be established.

 

[tyler91913]

Looking to have a colorful 30 gallon tank. How does this group look?

Blue Reef Chromis (Chromis cyaneus)
Lemonpeel Angelfish (Centropyge flavissima)
True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)
Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)

More about the setup: 30 gallons, barebottom, rimless and open top, 10 gallon sump, Tunze 9006 skimmer, SCWD returns, mp10 for powerhead, AI Sols for lights, mushrooms and leathers and zoas for coral (no SPS or LPS), 30-40 lbs of LR.

Concerns: species incompatibility? risk of jumping? safety of zoas and mushrooms? too heavily stocked?

Thanks in advance! Looking forward to your feedback.

 

[djatl]

That's a lot of fish for a 65 gallon. But it's your tank. I hope you have a good skimmer and plan on staying diligent with maintenance.

It's been my experience that the hawks I've owned will generally leave snails alone if kept well fed but would eat hermits and ornamental shrimp no matter what.

Personally I would stay away from the sand sifting gobies. They sift for food and it doesn't take long for them to wipe out the life in a healthy bed. Once that happens it's hard to keep them in enough food and they eventually starve to death. But if you must I would add any other bottom dwelling fish you desire first so that territories can be established.

There should be a lot of ORs in the later additions. Definitely not planning for all of them. And I may just stick with the 1 goby, just due to space on the floor of the tank.

 

[snorvich]

I'm setting up a 65g FOWLR with a 15g sump, and just beginning to cycle with 12 lbs of uncured live rock and 50 lbs of dry rock. I added 40 lbs of aragonite sand and 20 lbs of packaged live sand. While I wait for the tank/live rock to cycle, I thought I'd finalize my stocking list for a mixed community tank.

Initial Stocking (initial ramp-up)
7 Blue-Green Chromis Chromis will reduce their number down so there is one or at most two left
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
2 Pajama Cardinal (and/or Banggai Cardinal) Banggai cardinals must be a M+F for more than one
1 Diamond Bar Goby (and other gobies/blennies?)
1 Royal Gramma
1 Longnose Hawkfish

That is a lot for your sized tank

Options for Later:
1 Longfin Bannerfish
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Green Mandarin (if I set up a refugium)
1 Yellow Tang (if I upgrade to a 5' 125g tank)

This is roughly the order I was planning to introduce them after the cycle is established. Any suggestions on stocking order, better combinations, or substitutions?

I had some specific questions on my choices also.
- If I get the Longnose Hawkfish, what kind of cleaning crew should I go with? I've read they eat a lot of the standard options.

They will eat shrimp, but other CUC would be safe
- Any gobies or blennies that are compatible with the Diamond Bar Goby? I like the sand-sifters, but I'm not sure how much room I have for similar fish.

Sand sifters will deplete your sand bed then starve, but you are loaded up all ready.

Thanks in advance!

 

[djatl]

Why will the Chromis reduce their number so dramatically? Are they that territorial? Do I need a bigger tank for schooling behavior?

So dialing back the ambition...

Revised initial stocking list (add 2-3 individuals at a time, then let tank settle):
3 Blue-Green Chromis
2 Ocellaris
2 Pajama Cardinal
1 Diamond Bar Goby
1 Royal Gramma

If these are successful for a while and the tank can accommodate it, I'd add the Longfin Bannerfish as a showfish.

If I get the time to setup a remote refugium and let it stock up, I'd like to add the mandarinfish. But that's a long way off. I don't think anything from above will cause a problem for a mandarin.

Hopefully this is more reasonable for a 65g.

Thanks for the input!

 

[snorvich]

Why will the Chromis reduce their number so dramatically? Are they that territorial? Do I need a bigger tank for schooling behavior?

So dialing back the ambition...

Revised initial stocking list (add 2-3 individuals at a time, then let tank settle):
3 Blue-Green Chromis
2 Ocellaris
2 Pajama Cardinal
1 Diamond Bar Goby
1 Royal Gramma

If these are successful for a while and the tank can accommodate it, I'd add the Longfin Bannerfish as a showfish.

If I get the time to setup a remote refugium and let it stock up, I'd like to add the mandarinfish. But that's a long way off. I don't think anything from above will cause a problem for a mandarin.

Hopefully this is more reasonable for a 65g.

Thanks for the input!

Yes, it is more reasonable. Damsels, of which Chromis are examples, tend to be very territorial. In our aquaria it is not really possible to get schooling behavior. Anthias in a larger tank (upwards of 125 gallons) will shoal. My blog, if you are interested, provides the differences between schooling and shoaling.

 

[topbottomfeeder]

Can I add three green chromis to a 110gal tank?

I already have for about 3 month
2 ocellaris clowns
1 Royal Gramma
3 Firefish soon to be 4
1 coral beauty
1 clown goby

1 Coral banded shrimp
3 peppermint shrimp(was 5 but 1 died when there was a ammonia spike and the other got too close to the CBS)

 

[snorvich]

Can I add three green chromis to a 110gal tank?

They likely will become one or at most two, bioload is fine

I already have for about 3 month
2 ocellaris clowns
1 Royal Gramma
3 Firefish soon to be 4 A male + female is stable, 4 will become one or two
1 coral beauty
1 clown goby

1 Coral banded shrimp Will take fish
3 peppermint shrimp(was 5 but 1 died when there was a ammonia spike and the other got too close to the CBS)

 

[tyler91913]

Hiya Steve - thoughts on my post #1128?

 

[snorvich]

Looking to have a colorful 30 gallon tank. How does this group look?

Blue Reef Chromis (Chromis cyaneus)
Lemonpeel Angelfish (Centropyge flavissima)
True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)
Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)

More about the setup: 30 gallons, barebottom, rimless and open top, 10 gallon sump, Tunze 9006 skimmer, SCWD returns, mp10 for powerhead, AI Sols for lights, mushrooms and leathers and zoas for coral (no SPS or LPS), 30-40 lbs of LR.

Concerns: species incompatibility? risk of jumping? safety of zoas and mushrooms? too heavily stocked?

Ooops, so sorry, I must have missed yours. The only one with a slight propensity for jumping is P. fridmani although any fish can jump. No obvious incompatibilities

Thanks in advance! Looking forward to your feedback.

 

[les258]

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hello i have set back up for saltwater i have a 180 gal tank 55 gal sump/refu i have 220 pounds live sand 200 # base rock 50#live rock running two 1300 gph wave makers protine skimmer for lights iam have a 8 bulb t5 so iam i headding in the wright way want to have soft corals and lps and a few fish thanks les oh ya useing ro/di filter

 

[topbottomfeeder]

I want to eventually have a school of chromis(I heard that I need at least 5 for a schooling effect) is there no way for me to get the chromis to behave? I have seen 110gal tanks that have more ten chromis in a school and a lot of other fish.

any suggestion is appreciated

 

[Rrudo74901]

Steve,
I have a cleaner shrimp in my tank and added 3 trochus snails. The shrimp seems to be turning the snails upside down and picking at them. Is that normal and are the two species compatible? Seems the shrimp is killing the snails?

 

[snorvich]

hello i have set back up for saltwater i have a 180 gal tank 55 gal sump/refu i have 220 pounds live sand 200 # base rock 50#live rock running two 1300 gph wave makers protine skimmer for lights iam have a 8 bulb t5 so iam i headding in the wright way want to have soft corals and lps and a few fish thanks les oh ya useing ro/di filter

Sounds fine so far. Read, read, read. When you get a possible fish stocking list, feel free to check back for compatibility commentary.