PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Hey all, glad I saw this thread before posting.. So I have a 40 gallon breeder, it's been running for about a month now, levels are all starting to balance out, diatom algae bloom is going away, ammonia is at like .02 and has been going down everyday, exciting point for a new salt water hobbyist!:xlbirthday:

I suggest not buying fish while ammonia is present. Also, I suggest clean up crew before fish.

I plan on doing my first water change today, only about 4 gallons. Okay question now, how many fish would I be able to have in this tank? I went out and bought my first fish two days ago, a clown fish. I have an idea of the fish I want, can you please let me know if they will all be able to co-exist with each other. Thanks!

You are not quarantining your fish, and you are rushing. Nothing good happens quickly in this hobby.

1. Clown Fish depends on species; some are more aggressive
Wait 2 weeks
2. FireFish and a Coral Banded Shrimp coral banded shrimp can take fish; a firefish is a jumper, so you better have a top (1/4 inch mesh)
Wait 2 weeks
3. Yellow wrasse needs a larger and more mature tank
Wait 2 weeks
4. Lawnmower Blenny needs a more mature tank
Wait 2 weeks
4. Copperband Butterfly Fish ( I know these guys require a very large tank, but I only plan on housing him for a couple months, I have a bad aiptasia problem. And my LFS said they would take him back after he was done cleaning my tank of the aiptasia) A copper banded may or may not eat aiptasia. It may or may not eat at all so if it dies your LFS is unlikely to take it back. Do not get this fish

Please let me know your all's ideas/suggestions! Thanks!

This thread is only answered by Reef Central Staff, in this case me. For general comments and opinions, post in New to the Hobby. However, my suggestion is to slow down.

 

[javdog2001]

Hi I have 72 gallon reef tank. I currently have a coral flame angel, yellow eye tang, bi color pseudo chromic and ocellaris clown. I want to get another clown, a small one hopefully to pair up. Is it a good idea and who would I add it, my clown is pretty territorial. Thank you.

 

[snorvich]

Hi I have 72 gallon reef tank. I currently have a coral flame angel, yellow eye tang, bi color pseudo chromic and ocellaris clown. I want to get another clown, a small one hopefully to pair up. Is it a good idea and who would I add it, my clown is pretty territorial. Thank you.

to pair up your clown, you need to add a tiny one of the same species.

 

[Vadafallon]

60 gallon cube

60 gallon cube

Ok at it again.. Currently i have 1 Bangai Cardinal, 1 Chalk bass and 1 Mandarin
I want to get:

5 blue/green reef chromis (or could i do a few different kinds of Chromis so they don't eventually kill each other off?)
3 pajama Cardinals
1 Sailfin Blenny
1 or 2 clowns.. not sure cause last time i had clowns they ran the tank and were mean as hell and i could not put anything in cause they tried to kill it.

 

[snorvich]

Ok at it again.. Currently i have 1 Bangai Cardinal, 1 Chalk bass and 1 Mandarin
I want to get:

5 blue/green reef chromis (or could i do a few different kinds of Chromis so they don't eventually kill each other off?) sorry, that is the way it is. Also, highly susceptible to uronema marinum so you best have a rigorous quarantine protocol
3 pajama Cardinals
1 Sailfin Blenny
1 or 2 clowns.. not sure cause last time i had clowns they ran the tank and were mean as hell and i could not put anything in cause they tried to kill it.
And the same experience will repeat itself once they are bonded and sexually mature. One or two will be the same result as one will become female. Not quite as bad as if you had a pair. Some species are worse.

fine except as annotated

 

[Vadafallon]

Ok another list..

Ok another list..

60 gallon tank and I do have leathers, Bangai, Chalk Bass and Mandarin
1 Chromis ( any suggested breed that does better than others?)
3 Pajama Cardinals
Sailfin Blenny
Tiger Watchman Goby
2 Fire fish
Coral Beauty
Saddle Valentini Puffer
Flame Hawkfish
1 Ocellaris Clownfish

 

[snorvich]

60 gallon tank and I do have leathers, Bangai, Chalk Bass and Mandarin
1 Chromis ( any suggested breed that does better than others?) Remember the quarantine issue
3 Pajama Cardinals
Sailfin Blenny
Tiger Watchman Goby
2 Fire fish only one will survive longer term
Coral Beauty
Saddle Valentini Puffer not invert safe
Flame Hawkfish not shrimp safe
1 Ocellaris Clownfish least aggressive species of clownfish

fine except as annotated

 

[Vadafallon]

Thanks.

Thanks.

fine except as annotated

Cool thanks! Yea i have a tank for quarantine. Looks like my list is getting there.

 

[Squba]

Corporate FOWLR

Corporate FOWLR

We are planning to purchase a complete saltwater setup from one of the local fish stores and this is their suggested stocking list.

Tank is a 5.5 ft 150 gallon Red Sea Max S-650. I think they will set it up as a FOWLR even though the tank is basically made for reefs.

CUC
Hermit Crabs !?!? (I am going to work on getting these removed. Maybe some Fighting Conch?)
Turbo Snails
Nassarius Snails
Cerith Snails
Peppermint Snails

Fish
Blue spotted Watchman Goby
Matted Filefish
Blue streak cleaner wrasse
Blue Flasher wrasse
Powder blue tang
Clownfish pair (type not specified by the LFS)
Yellow Tang
Red Scooter Dragonet
Copperband Butterflyfish
Midas Blenny
Coral Beauty Angel
Flame Angel

Red Bubble Anemone
Blood Red Shrimp
Coral Banded Shrimp.

I am thinking of maybe trying to talk everyone into getting a goby/pistol shrimp duo. (replacement for other goby in list or addition?)

 

[snorvich]

We are planning to purchase a complete saltwater setup from one of the local fish stores and this is their suggested stocking list.

Tank is a 5.5 ft 150 gallon Red Sea Max S-650. I think they will set it up as a FOWLR even though the tank is basically made for reefs.

CUC
Hermit Crabs !?!? (I am going to work on getting these removed. Maybe some Fighting Conch?) good idea as they kill snails; fighting conch are excellent scavengers as well as interesting
Turbo Snails
Nassarius Snails
Cerith Snails
Peppermint Snails

Fish
Blue spotted Watchman Goby
Matted Filefish
Blue streak cleaner wrasse I would not; many die and they do not perform any real benefit; sometimes they make the other fish crazy by pestering them
Blue Flasher wrasse needs a covered tank
Powder blue tang introduce last
Clownfish pair (type not specified by the LFS) ok if peaceful (A. ocellaris or A. percula)
Yellow Tang I would not have two large algae grazers especially with the dwarf angels which are also algae grazers
Red Scooter Dragonet after nine months
Copperband Butterflyfish risky as some never eat
Midas Blenny
Coral Beauty Angel
Flame Angel

Red Bubble Anemone
Blood Red Shrimp two would be good
Coral Banded Shrimp. can take fish

I am thinking of maybe trying to talk everyone into getting a goby/pistol shrimp duo. (replacement for other goby in list or addition?)

replacement

 

[Squba]

Did some changes.

Did some changes.

Did some changes. Removed the butterfly, replaced the cleaner wrasse for a fairy wrasse. Replaced the watchman goby and banded shrimp with a goby/pistol shrimp pair. And added two Bengaii Cardinals. Is the tank calm enough for them? I also replaced the dragonet with a mandarin dragonet... but I think we could go either way with that one.
Finally I added a clam which would be cool to introduce down the line.


Tank is a 5.5 ft 150 gallon Red Sea Max S-650. I think they will set it up as a FOWLR even though the tank is basically made for reefs.

CUC:
Fighting Conch
Turbo Snails
Nassarius Snails
Cerith Snails
Peppermint Snails

Fish:
Randall's Goby + Red Banded Pistol Shrimp
Matted Filefish
Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse
Blue Flasher wrasse
Powder blue tang
A. ocellaris Clownfish pair
Bengaii Cardinal mated pair
Yellow Tang
Mandarin Red, green or spotted.
Midas Blenny
Coral Beauty Angel
Flame Angel

Red Bubble Anemone
2x Blood Red Shrimp
Derasa Clam

 

[snorvich]

Did some changes. Removed the butterfly, replaced the cleaner wrasse for a fairy wrasse. Replaced the watchman goby and banded shrimp with a goby/pistol shrimp pair. And added two Bengaii Cardinals. Is the tank calm enough for them? I also replaced the dragonet with a mandarin dragonet... but I think we could go either way with that one.
Finally I added a clam which would be cool to introduce down the line.


Tank is a 5.5 ft 150 gallon Red Sea Max S-650. I think they will set it up as a FOWLR even though the tank is basically made for reefs.

CUC: excellent grouping
Fighting Conch I would do two
Turbo Snails
Nassarius Snails
Cerith Snails
Peppermint Snails

Fish:
Randall's Goby + Red Banded Pistol Shrimp
Matted Filefish
Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse
Blue Flasher wrasse
Powder blue tang
A. ocellaris Clownfish pair
Bengaii Cardinal mated pair
Yellow Tang
Mandarin Red, green or spotted. all behaviorally the same, add after 9 months
Midas Blenny
Coral Beauty Angel
Flame Angel

Red Bubble Anemone
2x Blood Red Shrimp
Derasa Clam

Looks good!

 

[shrooms135]

Hi Steve,

I have a 20 long w/ 10 gallon sump/fuge. ~10 lbs cured dry pukani in DT. Chaeto/lr rubble in the fuge.

My plan:
CUC: dwarf cerith, nerite, nassarius
Cleaner Shimp
Yasha goby/shrimp pair
Tail spot Blenny
Pink Streaked Wrasse

Given they are all quite peaceful, order or introduction as important?

Thanks for your help. This thread has been great as I've planned my stocking.

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve,

I have a 20 long w/ 10 gallon sump/fuge. ~10 lbs cured dry pukani in DT. Chaeto/lr rubble in the fuge.

My plan:
CUC: dwarf cerith, nerite, nassarius
Cleaner Shimp
Yasha goby/shrimp pair
Tail spot Blenny
Pink Streaked Wrasse

Given they are all quite peaceful, order or introduction as important?

Thanks for your help. This thread has been great as I've planned my stocking.

That plan should work fine. Order is not material

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[wesamazmy]

Hi guys,

I have 55g tank, with 20k live rock, 7g sump and skimmer

I have these fishes:
- Three strips damsel
- Yellow tail damsel
- Blue divil damsel
- Ambon damsel
- Speckled damsel
(too much damsel, I know love them!)
- Yellow dottyback (aggressive more than damsel)
- Cleaner shrimp
- Camel shrimp
- 4 harmet crabs
- anemone
- 2 LBS corals (Goniopora)

I am planing to get Gobies, which kind of Gobies can live with what I have and how many Gobies I can get for 55g tank?

this is my tank if you would like to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdnCwuLvNts

Thanks for your advice.

 

[snorvich]

Hi guys,

I have 55g tank, with 20k live rock, 7g sump and skimmer

I have these fishes:
- Three strips damsel
- Yellow tail damsel
- Blue divil damsel
- Ambon damsel
- Speckled damsel
(too much damsel, I know love them!)
- Yellow dottyback (aggressive more than damsel)
- Cleaner shrimp
- Camel shrimp
- 4 harmet crabs
- anemone
- 2 LBS corals (Goniopora)

I am planing to get Gobies, which kind of Gobies can live with what I have and how many Gobies I can get for 55g tank?

this is my tank if you would like to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdnCwuLvNts

Thanks for your advice.

With your current stocking list, it is unlikely that you will be able to successfully add additional fish.

 

[wesamazmy]

With your current stocking list, it is unlikely that you will be able to successfully add additional fish.

I am planing to remove the dottyback (makes troubles)
but I think the gobies can be added with Damsels?

what about some kind of wrasse?

thank you for your help

 

[snorvich]

I am planing to remove the dottyback (makes troubles)
but I think the gobies can be added with Damsels?

what about some kind of wrasse?

thank you for your help

You may be able to get away with a shrimp goby, but other than that, there will be issues. I can't really provide any guidance with the current stocking. Sorry. You can try a thread in reef fish for general help but I am the only one answering this thread.

 

[wesamazmy]

You may be able to get away with a shrimp goby, but other than that, there will be issues. I can't really provide any guidance with the current stocking. Sorry. You can try a thread in reef fish for general help but I am the only one answering this thread.

Thank you very much!

 

[Abbott78]

Hello, im a new member here but have read hundreds of different threads here to help get my tank started. I have finally cycled my 80 gallon with 30g sump and just recenty added a pair of clowns. I have over 100 pounds of rock in my tank. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on my stocking wish list. My next purchase will hopefully be a blue tang(which ill quarantine for a few weeks), a yellow tang, a pair of banggai cardinals and a royal gramma. Then i plan on adding a cleaner shrimp, some sort of fairy wrasse that is reef safe, right now looking at redfin fairy wrasse or blue side fairy wrasse, and add a coral beauty and flame angel at the same time to hopefully avoid fighting as the will decide whats their territory at the same time and a neon goby or two. Finally i would like to add a zebra moray eel at the end and hopefully it will leave my cleaner shrimp alone. Any advise is greatly appreciated. I dont want to overstock my aquarium either as i won't likely be able to upgrade. Thanks, abbott78