Reduced. Amphiprion ocellaris when mating tend to want to control about 25 gallons of space.
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Reduced. Amphiprion ocellaris when mating tend to want to control about 25 gallons of space.
Well, the short answer is no. The longer answer is that it depends on the individual fish. My luck, for example, with centropyge multicolor has been 50% no problem.
adikira
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I thought I was at last question but sorry... one more if you can advise me. Regarding algae grazers when should I think about reducing their number - should I do it now, when they are 2.5-4 inch and I don't see aggression or can I delay that till they get bigger and start to display aggression?
When they are being aggressive, it may be a bigger problem. But that is my preference: I always avoid problems when I can.
Feriation
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I am just waiting on my tank, and of course since I'm only buying a few pieces of live rock, I will still have 3 months before I can actually start looking at any fish. Buuut. I was looking at these guys.
My tank is going to be a JBJ 28g cube.
Royal Gramma Basslet
Firefish
and of course, what tank would be complete without a...
Clownfish! (x2?) (I read on liveaquaria.com that once Ocellaris mature, they turn a solid orange colour. Is this true? I tried to google images of it, but I couldn't find any. If this is the case, I wont want any, because it's their contrast of orange, white, and black that appeal to me)
Also, reading about everything that can go wrong with anemones has scared me a little, but clown can live in certain corals, correct?
I have a sinking feeling that with 4 fish, I'll have already way overstocked my cube though, is this correct? There's that rule of thumb I read somewhere that it's 5g to an inch of fish...
If not, I'm assuming it would be best to place the clowns (as a pair) at the end, so the more passive fish already have their little hiding spots?
And lastly. My clean up crew.
12 - Blue Legged Hermits
3 - Red Scarlet Hermit
5 - Astrea Snails
5 - Margarita Snails
5 - Cerith Snails
The little clean up crew here is a pre done discounted package sold at my LFS
My tank is going to be a JBJ 28g cube.
Royal Gramma Basslet
Firefish
and of course, what tank would be complete without a...
Clownfish! (x2?) (I read on liveaquaria.com that once Ocellaris mature, they turn a solid orange colour. Is this true? I tried to google images of it, but I couldn't find any. If this is the case, I wont want any, because it's their contrast of orange, white, and black that appeal to me)
Also, reading about everything that can go wrong with anemones has scared me a little, but clown can live in certain corals, correct?
I have a sinking feeling that with 4 fish, I'll have already way overstocked my cube though, is this correct? There's that rule of thumb I read somewhere that it's 5g to an inch of fish...
If not, I'm assuming it would be best to place the clowns (as a pair) at the end, so the more passive fish already have their little hiding spots?
And lastly. My clean up crew.
12 - Blue Legged Hermits
3 - Red Scarlet Hermit
5 - Astrea Snails
5 - Margarita Snails
5 - Cerith Snails
The little clean up crew here is a pre done discounted package sold at my LFS
I do NOT like this prepackage. Get a variety of snails but no hermits. Also a fighting conch.
Fish Adjustment
Fish Adjustment
Snorvich-
Based I feedback I am passing on the Hippo Tang and the Dwarf angel -
Thoughts on the following:
Have -
2 Ocellaris Clowns added 2/11/12
Bicolor Blenny added 3/2/12
Yellow watchman goby added 3/2/12
Add -
Kole Yellow eye tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Purple Fire Fish (Nemateleotris decora)
Orchird Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)
If the above is OK, have I capped out on live stock capacity or is there room for "the right fish".
90 gallon display w/ 30 gallon sump. Full system details below.
Water Quality
PH 8.22
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 18 ppm
Alkalinity 11.2
Calcium 430
Kalkwasser via ATO
Livestock
2 Ocellaris Clowns added 2/11/12
Bicolor Blenny added 3/2/12
Yellow watchman goby added 3/2/12
5 or 6 Hermits
2 Skunk Shrimp
Thinking about
Kole Yellow eye tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Purple Fire Fish (Nemateleotris decora)
Orchird Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)
Coral
Green Star Polyps added 3/10/12
Red Mushrooms added 3/10/12
Toadstool added 3/17
Frogspawn added 3/17
Display Tank
AGA 90 Gallon Tank
216w T5HO 554w Actinic, 1 ATI 54W Blue Plus, 108w 10K
Two Koralia evolution 1400 gph "“ pumps alternate every 6 hours
85 pounds of Pukani Rock (does not conform to 1 to 1.5 pounds per gallon but this stuff is super porous)
Glass Holes 1500 GPH overflow
100 lbs Pink Samoa Reef Sand
Sump
Apex Controller
Aqueon Proflex Sump 4
Reef Octopus XP1000SSS (rated for 125 gallons)
5 pounds rubble
2 Eheim Jager 200w heaters
Eheim 900G return pump
Tunze ATO "“ Kalkwasser
Cheato
6500K 24w Compact Fluorescent Bulb
Fish Adjustment
Snorvich-
Based I feedback I am passing on the Hippo Tang and the Dwarf angel -
Thoughts on the following:
Have -
2 Ocellaris Clowns added 2/11/12
Bicolor Blenny added 3/2/12
Yellow watchman goby added 3/2/12
Add -
Kole Yellow eye tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Purple Fire Fish (Nemateleotris decora)
Orchird Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)
If the above is OK, have I capped out on live stock capacity or is there room for "the right fish".
90 gallon display w/ 30 gallon sump. Full system details below.
Water Quality
PH 8.22
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 18 ppm
Alkalinity 11.2
Calcium 430
Kalkwasser via ATO
Livestock
2 Ocellaris Clowns added 2/11/12
Bicolor Blenny added 3/2/12
Yellow watchman goby added 3/2/12
5 or 6 Hermits
2 Skunk Shrimp
Thinking about
Kole Yellow eye tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Purple Fire Fish (Nemateleotris decora)
Orchird Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)
Coral
Green Star Polyps added 3/10/12
Red Mushrooms added 3/10/12
Toadstool added 3/17
Frogspawn added 3/17
Display Tank
AGA 90 Gallon Tank
216w T5HO 554w Actinic, 1 ATI 54W Blue Plus, 108w 10K
Two Koralia evolution 1400 gph "“ pumps alternate every 6 hours
85 pounds of Pukani Rock (does not conform to 1 to 1.5 pounds per gallon but this stuff is super porous)
Glass Holes 1500 GPH overflow
100 lbs Pink Samoa Reef Sand
Sump
Apex Controller
Aqueon Proflex Sump 4
Reef Octopus XP1000SSS (rated for 125 gallons)
5 pounds rubble
2 Eheim Jager 200w heaters
Eheim 900G return pump
Tunze ATO "“ Kalkwasser
Cheato
6500K 24w Compact Fluorescent Bulb
The stocking list is fine and the bioload is fine, but check with me for behavioral compatibility for any additions.
ccreviston74
New member
We'd discussed pulling out the dottyback, and that a royal gramma might be a hazard to shrimp. What if I were to add a wrasse - sixline, flasher, or yellow - to the mix?
hoju74
New member
Looking for some input on my stocking scheme on a 65g tank with 20L sump. Except for a couple fish, nothing is set in stone. ‘Must-have’ fish are in bold.
Just wanted to make sure there won’t be any compatibility issues and looking for suggestions of other fish to stock.
Pearly Jawfish – This is a definite. Planning on a 4-5” sandbed of varying grain size. Since they’re a tad timid, should he go in first ?
Mandarin – Planning on adding one about 8-12 months after the tank is established to ensure a good pod population
Royal Gramma – One of my favorites. See any problems with compatibility ?
Here’s some other fish I’m thinking about. I obviously couldn’t have all of them, but which ones would go well with the jawfish, mandarin, and royal gramma ?
Clown Goby – These guys are small and peaceful, so I wouldn’t see a problem
Wrasse – I like them, but I assume they’re a no-no because they eat pods. Any species that won’t decimate a pod population ?
Ocellaris Clown – I would think unless I get a breeding pair, this won’t be a problem.
Lawnmower Blenny – Always liked these guys and wanted to add one when the inevitable hair algae bloom comes.
Neon Blue Goby – Always liked the look of these guys. Could I get away with a couple in a 65g ?
Antias – Would like one or two, but a 36” long tank probably isn’t big enough
Firefish/Cardinal – I would think this would be a good ‘open water’ choice
Let me know what you guys think. Pretty open to suggestions or other fish I might have overlooked. Like I said, the only thing that’s definite is the jawfish, mandarin, and royal gramma.
Just wanted to make sure there won’t be any compatibility issues and looking for suggestions of other fish to stock.
Pearly Jawfish – This is a definite. Planning on a 4-5” sandbed of varying grain size. Since they’re a tad timid, should he go in first ?
Mandarin – Planning on adding one about 8-12 months after the tank is established to ensure a good pod population
Royal Gramma – One of my favorites. See any problems with compatibility ?
Here’s some other fish I’m thinking about. I obviously couldn’t have all of them, but which ones would go well with the jawfish, mandarin, and royal gramma ?
Clown Goby – These guys are small and peaceful, so I wouldn’t see a problem
Wrasse – I like them, but I assume they’re a no-no because they eat pods. Any species that won’t decimate a pod population ?
Ocellaris Clown – I would think unless I get a breeding pair, this won’t be a problem.
Lawnmower Blenny – Always liked these guys and wanted to add one when the inevitable hair algae bloom comes.
Neon Blue Goby – Always liked the look of these guys. Could I get away with a couple in a 65g ?
Antias – Would like one or two, but a 36” long tank probably isn’t big enough
Firefish/Cardinal – I would think this would be a good ‘open water’ choice
Let me know what you guys think. Pretty open to suggestions or other fish I might have overlooked. Like I said, the only thing that’s definite is the jawfish, mandarin, and royal gramma.
I have a 220 gallon tank (6' long and 2' wide) with approximately 255 lbs of LR and approximately a 2" sand bed. I am thinking about the following stocking list:
Coral Beauty Angel
Black and White Ocellaris Clownfish Pair
Firefish Pair
Diamond Watchman Goby
Algae Blenny
Schooling Bannerfish Pair
Mandarin
Powder Blue or Powder Brown Tang
Yellow Tang
Potential Additions:
Spotbreast Angel
Ignitus Anthina Pair
Yellow Candy Hogfish
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse Trio
Longfin Fairy Wrasse Trio
I also plan on including several shrimp, snails and smaller crabs. I am thinking the tank will include soft corals and potentially an anemone or two. I would appreciate feedback and things to think about as I move forward with adding livestock. This is sort of a wish list, so I am expecting to have to make some choices between these options. Currently all I have is a small CUC consisting of snails and a few small hermit crabs. Thanks.
Coral Beauty Angel
Black and White Ocellaris Clownfish Pair
Firefish Pair
Diamond Watchman Goby
Algae Blenny
Schooling Bannerfish Pair
Mandarin
Powder Blue or Powder Brown Tang
Yellow Tang
Potential Additions:
Spotbreast Angel
Ignitus Anthina Pair
Yellow Candy Hogfish
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse Trio
Longfin Fairy Wrasse Trio
I also plan on including several shrimp, snails and smaller crabs. I am thinking the tank will include soft corals and potentially an anemone or two. I would appreciate feedback and things to think about as I move forward with adding livestock. This is sort of a wish list, so I am expecting to have to make some choices between these options. Currently all I have is a small CUC consisting of snails and a few small hermit crabs. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm thinking that I'll slowly stock my first list (except the mandarin) and see how it is going. That way I will have a better idea of what else I may or may not want. I would probably only go with one set of wrasses, and eliminate the hogfish. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making an obvious mistake from the beginning. Thanks again.
Gone Snorkelin'
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Proposed Stock List for New Tank
Proposed Stock List for New Tank
Steve,
First of all I would like to echo many others by saying you do a great service to the hobby. Thank you.
I have been lurking in the background watching this thread for some time.
I anxiously await every new post to see what others are putting in their tanks. I think it's about time to post my proposed list and I welcome your comments.
This is our first salt water tank.
120 gallon 4'x2'x2' DT
75 lbs base rock & 40 lbs live rock
Approx. 2" aragonite sand bed
30 gallon sump with some live rock & chaetomorpha algae
In sump skimmer
8-bulb T5 lighting
Tank was born Jan. 2, 2012
Currently inhabited by 3 Margarita snails & 3 Astraea snails. (added in Feb.)
Recently added some small corals:
Trachyphyllia Radiata - Open brain coral ( no angels I guess )
Euphyllia Ancora - Hammer coral
Blastomussa Wellsi
Small assortment of zoanthids
sg = 1.025 by refractometer
RO/DI water 0 TDS
Nitrite = 0 ppm
Nitrate = 0 ppm
Calcium = 403 ppm
Alkalinity = 159 ppm
Currently in QT:
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish - (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Proposed stocking list in order:
1 x The Ocellaris already in QT ( Day 13 of minimum 4 weeks )
1 x Neon Blue Goby - (Elacatinus oceanops) ( Gobiosoma oceanops ?)
1 x Royal Gramma Basslet "“ (Gramma loreto)
1 x Possum Wrasse - (Wetmorella tanakai) or (Wetmorella albofasciata)
3 x (mff) Tiger Queen Anthias - (Lori's Anthias?)- (Pseudoanthias lori)
I saw 2 of these at my LFS and really liked them. I had to fight to not impulse buy. I will assume they can get them again. If they are more difficult and/or aggressive I would consider other anthias you often endorse such as Resplendent or Carberryi.
Question - If anthias are added as juveniles, are they hermaphroditic? Will only one turn male? Or, do I have to make certain I purchase 1 male & 2 females? Assuming I have room for three.
1 x Blue Reef Chromis "“ (Chromis cyaneus)
1 x Green Mandarin Dragonet "“ (Synchiropus splendidus) After 1 year.
1 x Yellow Tang - (Zebrasoma flavescens)
My preference for the yellow tang over Ctenochaetus tangs is based on appearance. If the temperament of the yellow tang would be too problematic, I could substitute a Ctenochaetus flavicauda, Ctenochaetus tominiensis, or Ctenochaetus strigosus.
I will also add more snails as the tank matures. Right now there doesn't seem to be much for them to eat.
I will also add a cleaner shrimp - (Lysmata debelius) and possibly a Peppermint Shrimp - (Lysmata wurdemanni)
I would like to add a conch, but I am concerned it may starve.
I plan to quarantine all fish for a minimum 4 weeks. Purchases will all be made separately exluding the Anthias which I would buy together (if that is the proper method for Anthias harems).
Regarding quarantine: Do you recommend any prophylactic treatments?
Do you recommend longer quarantine for a tang and possible hypo-salinity treatment?
Thank you in advance for your time and comments.
Michael
Proposed Stock List for New Tank
Steve,
First of all I would like to echo many others by saying you do a great service to the hobby. Thank you.
I have been lurking in the background watching this thread for some time.
I anxiously await every new post to see what others are putting in their tanks. I think it's about time to post my proposed list and I welcome your comments.
This is our first salt water tank.
120 gallon 4'x2'x2' DT
75 lbs base rock & 40 lbs live rock
Approx. 2" aragonite sand bed
30 gallon sump with some live rock & chaetomorpha algae
In sump skimmer
8-bulb T5 lighting
Tank was born Jan. 2, 2012
Currently inhabited by 3 Margarita snails & 3 Astraea snails. (added in Feb.)
Recently added some small corals:
Trachyphyllia Radiata - Open brain coral ( no angels I guess )
Euphyllia Ancora - Hammer coral
Blastomussa Wellsi
Small assortment of zoanthids
sg = 1.025 by refractometer
RO/DI water 0 TDS
Nitrite = 0 ppm
Nitrate = 0 ppm
Calcium = 403 ppm
Alkalinity = 159 ppm
Currently in QT:
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish - (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Proposed stocking list in order:
1 x The Ocellaris already in QT ( Day 13 of minimum 4 weeks )
1 x Neon Blue Goby - (Elacatinus oceanops) ( Gobiosoma oceanops ?)
1 x Royal Gramma Basslet "“ (Gramma loreto)
1 x Possum Wrasse - (Wetmorella tanakai) or (Wetmorella albofasciata)
3 x (mff) Tiger Queen Anthias - (Lori's Anthias?)- (Pseudoanthias lori)
I saw 2 of these at my LFS and really liked them. I had to fight to not impulse buy. I will assume they can get them again. If they are more difficult and/or aggressive I would consider other anthias you often endorse such as Resplendent or Carberryi.
Question - If anthias are added as juveniles, are they hermaphroditic? Will only one turn male? Or, do I have to make certain I purchase 1 male & 2 females? Assuming I have room for three.
1 x Blue Reef Chromis "“ (Chromis cyaneus)
1 x Green Mandarin Dragonet "“ (Synchiropus splendidus) After 1 year.
1 x Yellow Tang - (Zebrasoma flavescens)
My preference for the yellow tang over Ctenochaetus tangs is based on appearance. If the temperament of the yellow tang would be too problematic, I could substitute a Ctenochaetus flavicauda, Ctenochaetus tominiensis, or Ctenochaetus strigosus.
I will also add more snails as the tank matures. Right now there doesn't seem to be much for them to eat.
I will also add a cleaner shrimp - (Lysmata debelius) and possibly a Peppermint Shrimp - (Lysmata wurdemanni)
I would like to add a conch, but I am concerned it may starve.
I plan to quarantine all fish for a minimum 4 weeks. Purchases will all be made separately exluding the Anthias which I would buy together (if that is the proper method for Anthias harems).
Regarding quarantine: Do you recommend any prophylactic treatments?
Do you recommend longer quarantine for a tang and possible hypo-salinity treatment?
Thank you in advance for your time and comments.
Michael
mjaustin22
New member
Hey,
Looking for advice, I have a 58g with:
1 large 3.5-4" red velvet fairy wrasse
1 bartlett anthias
2 b and w clowns
1 chalk bass
I've had all these fish in the tank for awhile and am wanting/thinking about adding a mystery wrasse to the mix as my last fish. All my other fish get along pretty good, my list written above is generally in order of who runs the tank. I really don't want to add a mystery wrasse if its going to cause problems with my fairy wrasse. Im just wondering if you think the two wrasse would be ok together, the mysterry wrasse I have my eye on is about and 1" to 1 1/2"
thanks!!!
Looking for advice, I have a 58g with:
1 large 3.5-4" red velvet fairy wrasse
1 bartlett anthias
2 b and w clowns
1 chalk bass
I've had all these fish in the tank for awhile and am wanting/thinking about adding a mystery wrasse to the mix as my last fish. All my other fish get along pretty good, my list written above is generally in order of who runs the tank. I really don't want to add a mystery wrasse if its going to cause problems with my fairy wrasse. Im just wondering if you think the two wrasse would be ok together, the mysterry wrasse I have my eye on is about and 1" to 1 1/2"
thanks!!!
mystery wrasse, while gorgeous, do not do well with shrimp or with fairy and flasher wrasses. The mystery wrasse generally will win but in your case, it is small so it may not
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