A bonded, mated pair of A. ocellaris want to control about 20-25 gallons of tank space. As a consequence, they are likely to feel cramped in a 14 gallon biocube.
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A bonded, mated pair of A. ocellaris want to control about 20-25 gallons of tank space. As a consequence, they are likely to feel cramped in a 14 gallon biocube.
Dale Cooper
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Speaking of clownfish.....from the time my 90 gal cycled with live rock to now when I decided to add my first fish, my lfs had a 'bonded' pair of maroons. I bought them yesterday, and this morning one of them was dead. They were both around 2" tail to nose; definitely not tiny little ones.
So now I'm stuck with one.
The one that lived is quite active and appears to be doing well. I'll give it a couple of weeks before I add more fish, so I'm wondering if down the road I would be able to have the following with a maroon clown:
3 pj cardinals
1 pink spotted watchman goby
1 Blackcap Basslet
1 McKosker's Flasher Wrasse
1 Tangoara Goby
Would any of these be definite no-nos with the maroon clown?
Thanks so much.
So now I'm stuck with one.
The one that lived is quite active and appears to be doing well. I'll give it a couple of weeks before I add more fish, so I'm wondering if down the road I would be able to have the following with a maroon clown:
3 pj cardinals
1 pink spotted watchman goby
1 Blackcap Basslet
1 McKosker's Flasher Wrasse
1 Tangoara Goby
Would any of these be definite no-nos with the maroon clown?
Thanks so much.
A bonded pair of maroon clowns will want to control at least 50 gallons of tank space. They are very aggressive towards most fish and will create a less than desirable dynamic in a relatively smallish tank. The only total no-no is any other clownfish species. But I would be concerned if a new fish died.
fishouttawater
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Current Inhabitants: 2 true perc's and a firefish, CUC and a few basic corals (frogspawn, mushrooms, xenia, a couple zoos).
I do not run a skimmer so need to keep bioload pretty low, I think I can handle one or two more fish. Which of these would y'all recommend? Main consideration being compatibility with clowns and firefish, reefsafe, and doing ok in 24g....Thanks in advance.
Midas Blenny
Royal Gramma
Orchid Dottyback
Tailspot Blenny
6-line wrasse
Banghai cardinal...
Or something else?
I do not run a skimmer so need to keep bioload pretty low, I think I can handle one or two more fish. Which of these would y'all recommend? Main consideration being compatibility with clowns and firefish, reefsafe, and doing ok in 24g....Thanks in advance.
Midas Blenny
Royal Gramma
Orchid Dottyback
Tailspot Blenny
6-line wrasse
Banghai cardinal...
Or something else?
This thread is answered only by Reef Central Staff, in this case me. A fourth fish is marginal in that sized tank, especially when the clownfish become sexually mature.
Dale Cooper
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Well, since I no longer have a bonded pair, and doubt they were to begin with in spite of what the lfs said, I'm looking to the future. I love my clown that lived, but would never have bought a single one. Since it's not something I would have bought as a single, she'll probably live forever, lol.
My water tested fine both at home and at the lfs. I took the dead fish and a sample in so they could test it. I am concerned and will hold off awhile for anything new. I think my main concern was the pj cardinals since they are so incredibly passive.
Thanks again.
If the remaining clown is female, it will be aggressive. If both clowns were the same size, you had two juveniles. If one was almost twice as large as the other, you had a male plus female which may or may not be bonded. If both clowns were the same size, it is likely one killed the other.
Newbie
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Hi there, currently planning a 30g tank (60*40*60cm) and chosig between two paths to go...
1. I go With the obvious A. Ocellaris par and a BTA perhaps, problem is that what i understand is that clowns do get very aggro vs. everything and wont allow cleaner shrimps or any other fish.
2. This is what i think would be most intressting for me.
Firefish 1
Royal Gramma 1
Lawnmower blenny 1
Peppermint shrimp 1
Scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp 1
CUC
Featherdusters
LPS mostly
Will do a 5 inch DSB for all the worms and critters im exited about.
LPS, firefish and gramma for general looks and for visitors to look at.
Blenny for algae control an GF who likes odd looking fish.
Main concern is not to overstock, nothing to mess with the DSB or the LPS and no fighting. I have read that the blenny might munch on corals..
Sorry for bad grammar/spelling and many thanks to this site from a snowy Sweden.
Newbie
Hi there, currently planning a 30g tank (60*40*60cm) and chosig between two paths to go...
1. I go With the obvious A. Ocellaris par and a BTA perhaps, problem is that what i understand is that clowns do get very aggro vs. everything and wont allow cleaner shrimps or any other fish.
2. This is what i think would be most intressting for me.
Firefish 1
Royal Gramma 1
Lawnmower blenny 1
Peppermint shrimp 1
Scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp 1
CUC
Featherdusters
LPS mostly
Will do a 5 inch DSB for all the worms and critters im exited about.
LPS, firefish and gramma for general looks and for visitors to look at.
Blenny for algae control an GF who likes odd looking fish.
Main concern is not to overstock, nothing to mess with the DSB or the LPS and no fighting. I have read that the blenny might munch on corals..
Sorry for bad grammar/spelling and many thanks to this site from a snowy Sweden.
Your excellent English far exceeds my nonexistent Swedish.
In option one, the clownfish may never associate with your anemone even if it is the correct anemone for the clownfish species. It is true that once sexually mature, the clownfish want to control about 25-30 gallons of tank space and will be aggressive towards fish within that space. Clownfish do not allow cleaner shrimp to "clean" them; not all fish do.
In option two, be sure that you supplement the algae in the tank with nori since your tank may not produce sufficient algae for the blenny. If there is insufficient algae, the blenny may go after the zooxanthellae in clams or lps corals. They are generally considered coral safe, however.
Either option should work subject to comments supplied.
Which fish to add to my tank
Which fish to add to my tank
Hello Steve, thank you for taking the time to respond to everyone's fish questions, people like yourself help save the lives of our critters, corals and fish :inlove:
I have just come back to reefing/fish keeping after being away for three years, work got crazy and I had to travel alot and couldn't give my last tank the time it needed. My previous tank I had for five years, so I am not exactly a noob, but I am re-reading everything to make sure I am up to date with any changes that have happened in the reef/fish world while I was away.
I have a 300L/80G tank with sump (Aqua One 300 Reef) that has been through its cycle (lasted 6 weeks, tank now in week 7), with live and dead rock and a sand bed. I am running Razor 160w 10,000k leds, chiller, skimmer and wave makers.
Yesteday I added a small CUC (1 x tiger sand conch and 6 x margarita snails) and 1 x lawnmower blenny. I will let these guys run the tank for a while and monitor any chemical fluctuations while they settle in and do their thing.
I am struggling to decide what fish to stock my tank with. Do you have any thoughts on fish options, noting that my fish choices are limited to Australia (where I live)? I understand the requirements of fish keeping i.e water volume, compatibility, room to move, tang police etc. My brain is hurting trying to make a decision. I am in no hurry to add fish as I like to let new additions settle for a bit before adding anything else, so I will take my time adding new fish. I happy to do this over months or a year if needs be.
I will add corals as well. I prefer soft (sarcophyton), LPS (trachyphillia, acans and chalice), SPS (monties) and possibly a few morphs, zoas and blastos. Yeah I know the argument about mixing reefs :thumbdown. I am not an overstocker, so no worries there.
Any help is appreciated, even if you can narrow down the fish choices for me!
Which fish to add to my tank
Hello Steve, thank you for taking the time to respond to everyone's fish questions, people like yourself help save the lives of our critters, corals and fish :inlove:
I have just come back to reefing/fish keeping after being away for three years, work got crazy and I had to travel alot and couldn't give my last tank the time it needed. My previous tank I had for five years, so I am not exactly a noob, but I am re-reading everything to make sure I am up to date with any changes that have happened in the reef/fish world while I was away.
I have a 300L/80G tank with sump (Aqua One 300 Reef) that has been through its cycle (lasted 6 weeks, tank now in week 7), with live and dead rock and a sand bed. I am running Razor 160w 10,000k leds, chiller, skimmer and wave makers.
Yesteday I added a small CUC (1 x tiger sand conch and 6 x margarita snails) and 1 x lawnmower blenny. I will let these guys run the tank for a while and monitor any chemical fluctuations while they settle in and do their thing.
I am struggling to decide what fish to stock my tank with. Do you have any thoughts on fish options, noting that my fish choices are limited to Australia (where I live)? I understand the requirements of fish keeping i.e water volume, compatibility, room to move, tang police etc. My brain is hurting trying to make a decision. I am in no hurry to add fish as I like to let new additions settle for a bit before adding anything else, so I will take my time adding new fish. I happy to do this over months or a year if needs be.
I will add corals as well. I prefer soft (sarcophyton), LPS (trachyphillia, acans and chalice), SPS (monties) and possibly a few morphs, zoas and blastos. Yeah I know the argument about mixing reefs :thumbdown. I am not an overstocker, so no worries there.
Any help is appreciated, even if you can narrow down the fish choices for me!
If you have followed this thread, you will know that I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is I want each person to develop research skills that will at least allow them to figure out basic habits and requirements of the fish they are considering. The purpose of this thread is marine fish compatibility. I do provide an analysis of the behavioral compatibility of stocking lists both with each other and the environment you are providing. Having dived Australian waters as well as nearby Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea, I know there are a lot of possibilities for you to consider. So feel free to check back with potential stocking lists.
gsiegel
New member
Good morning!
I currently have a xmas, exquisite and lineatus wrasse in a 280g fowlr.
I saw a beautiful melanarus yesterday with blue/green coloring I had not seen before. What is your thought as to the compatibility of adding the melanarus? Asking for trouble with me already having a xmas wrasse?
I also may want to add another wrasse or 2 (fairy/flasher) - how is the melanarus typically with new additions.
Thanks Steve as always!
I currently have a xmas, exquisite and lineatus wrasse in a 280g fowlr.
I saw a beautiful melanarus yesterday with blue/green coloring I had not seen before. What is your thought as to the compatibility of adding the melanarus? Asking for trouble with me already having a xmas wrasse?
I also may want to add another wrasse or 2 (fairy/flasher) - how is the melanarus typically with new additions.
Thanks Steve as always!
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Should be no problem. When introducing fairy wrasses to tanks with existing, established fairy wrasses, an acclimation box for social acclimation is desirable.
ianrwesley
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Looking for feedback on these fish.
Looking for feedback on these fish.
I'm in the process of building out a new 220 gallon tank. It is in the process of cycling right now. Running ~40 gallon sump and skimmer. Planning a mixed reef tank with LPS and SPS + anemone. CUC will probably be mostly snails. Lighting is supplied by 3 250 watt MH + T5s providing actinic lighting.
I'm still figuring out which fish I'm going to add. Was looking at the following and wanted to get some opions:
"¢ Mated pair True Percula Clowns
"¢ Green Mandarin (after I have established some pods reproducing in the tank)
"¢ Watchman Goby & Pistol Shrimp
"¢ Flame Angel
"¢ Koran, Queen or Regal Angelfish (can I do more than one?)
"¢ Chevron Tang
"¢ Yellow Tang
"¢ Blue/Green Reef Chromis (Chromis viridis) for a shoal of fish. Maybe 10, looking for recommendations on how many is too little or too much.
"¢ Various Wrasses. Looking at the following, don't know how many yet:
I'll start out with the mated pair of true percs, then I was planning to add a few fish every couple months. Looking for some feedback on the list along with any recommendations on order I should be introducing them to the tank. Also wondering if this is too many?
I likely won't add any coral or an anemone to the tank for 6+ months or more. I'd like to make sure the tank is stable before adding....
Thanks,
Ian
Looking for feedback on these fish.
I'm in the process of building out a new 220 gallon tank. It is in the process of cycling right now. Running ~40 gallon sump and skimmer. Planning a mixed reef tank with LPS and SPS + anemone. CUC will probably be mostly snails. Lighting is supplied by 3 250 watt MH + T5s providing actinic lighting.
I'm still figuring out which fish I'm going to add. Was looking at the following and wanted to get some opions:
"¢ Mated pair True Percula Clowns
"¢ Green Mandarin (after I have established some pods reproducing in the tank)
"¢ Watchman Goby & Pistol Shrimp
"¢ Flame Angel
"¢ Koran, Queen or Regal Angelfish (can I do more than one?)
"¢ Chevron Tang
"¢ Yellow Tang
"¢ Blue/Green Reef Chromis (Chromis viridis) for a shoal of fish. Maybe 10, looking for recommendations on how many is too little or too much.
"¢ Various Wrasses. Looking at the following, don't know how many yet:
o Macropharyngodon bipartitus
o Paracheilinus mccoskeri
o Cirrhilabrus solorensis
o Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
o Labroides dimidiatus
o Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
o Cirrhilabrus filamentosus
o Cirrhilabrus scottorum
o Paracheilinus carpenter
o Paracheilinus mccoskeri
o Cirrhilabrus solorensis
o Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
o Labroides dimidiatus
o Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
o Cirrhilabrus filamentosus
o Cirrhilabrus scottorum
o Paracheilinus carpenter
I'll start out with the mated pair of true percs, then I was planning to add a few fish every couple months. Looking for some feedback on the list along with any recommendations on order I should be introducing them to the tank. Also wondering if this is too many?
I likely won't add any coral or an anemone to the tank for 6+ months or more. I'd like to make sure the tank is stable before adding....
Thanks,
Ian
I am thinking of adding a Yellow Tang and a Blue Hippo Tang to my 150 gallon reef tank. I know it is recommended that you add your tangs all at one time. Is that true of all tangs. Here is my current stock:
Solar Wrasse
Melanarus Wrasse
Exquisite Wrasse
Linespot Wrasse
Ocellarus Clownfish
Starry Blenny
Purple Firefish
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Fireshrimp
Turbo Snails
Hermit Crabs
Several Zoanthids
Duncan Coral
Fungia
Birdsnest Coral
Acan of some kind
Sun Coral
Solar Wrasse
Melanarus Wrasse
Exquisite Wrasse
Linespot Wrasse
Ocellarus Clownfish
Starry Blenny
Purple Firefish
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Fireshrimp
Turbo Snails
Hermit Crabs
Several Zoanthids
Duncan Coral
Fungia
Birdsnest Coral
Acan of some kind
Sun Coral
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