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[rldcpa]

I have a mixed reef 245 gallon tank with various fish, corals, clam and shrimp and a couple of hermit crabs. I want to add some fish soon. All the fish get along.

Questions:

1. Can I have multiple male and female reef friendly wrasses? I have a male McCloskers now
2. Can I have multiple gobies. I have a yellowhead jawfish, a watchman and a lawnmower blenny. I want to get more sand sifters and others if possible.
3. Can I add a new tang at this point. I have 4 now, 2 yellow, mimic and Desjardins. I want a Caribbean blue and/or blue, and/or powder tang and/or Kole. The last tang I added (the mimic) was initially picked on a bit but toughed it out and proved he could take some initial chasing. No problems now.
4. I have a Midas blenny and want to get some other blennies. Can I get a few more?
5. Dartfish?
6. Anthrias?
7. I will be adding a few different schools of chromis. These seem safe as I have some now with no issues.


I don't want anything that will be a problem or will eat my clam, shrimp or corals.

 

[snorvich]

I have a mixed reef 245 gallon tank with various fish, corals, clam and shrimp and a couple of hermit crabs. I want to add some fish soon. All the fish get along.

Questions:

1. Can I have multiple male and female reef friendly wrasses? I have a male McCloskers now Yes. Most flashers (except the red sea 8 line) are compatibile with multiple females per male; many fairy wrasses are doable but if you have multiple females per male they must be a different size
2. Can I have multiple gobies. I have a yellowhead jawfish, a watchman and a lawnmower blenny. I want to get more sand sifters and others if possible. multiple sand sifters are probably not going to work long term
3. Can I add a new tang at this point. I have 4 now, 2 yellow, mimic and Desjardins. I want a Caribbean blue and/or blue, and/or powder tang and/or Kole. The last tang I added (the mimic) was initially picked on a bit but toughed it out and proved he could take some initial chasing. No problems now.

use an acclimation box to diffuse initial territorial aggression. an 8 foot tank will help that a lot
4. I have a Midas blenny and want to get some other blennies. Can I get a few more? it may work in this length tank, but it is iffy
5. Dartfish? yes
6. Anthrias? yes, but they do best with multiple feedings per day
7. I will be adding a few different schools of chromis. These seem safe as I have some now with no issues. long term, that may or may not work but be sure they are quarantined as uronema is common with chromis


I don't want anything that will be a problem or will eat my clam, shrimp or corals.

 

[rldcpa]

When you say long term are you referring to as the fish get larger and may get more aggressive with age?

 

[snorvich]

When you say long term are you referring to as the fish get larger and may get more aggressive with age?

the vast majority of time, chromis will have the aggressive one kill off the remainder. It does not happen immediately, usually over months.

 

[Eud]

I have a 75 gallon mixed reef with 50 gallon fuge and sump. Tank has been up for 9 months and refugium is full of mysis shrimp, display lots of copepods, amphipods, worms, and such.

Currently I have:

One spot foxface,
2 banggai cardinals
1 flame angel
2 ocel. clowns
1 royal gramma
3 blue/green chromis

I'm planning to add:

1 green mandarin, Synchiropus splendidus
1 blue-spot watchman goby, cryptocentrus pavoninoides

Will these last two compete for food too much? I regularly feed sustainable aquatics mini-pellets three times per day from apex autofeeder and a 1/4" cube of thawed Roggers each morning which the cardinals eat. I also put in 1.5" square of sea veggies each morning on a clip which the angel and foxface munch on through the day.

I have started hatching baby brine for the coming mandarin in quarantine/observation and have refugium rock in the quarantine for him which should be full of mysis also during his observation stay. It's not such a big chore that I can see doing it regularly for the mandarin if necessary.

The goby will be quarantined elsewhere for 4 weeks before I get it.

Anything to be concerned about?

 

[snorvich]

I have a 75 gallon mixed reef with 50 gallon fuge and sump. Tank has been up for 9 months and refugium is full of mysis shrimp, display lots of copepods, amphipods, worms, and such.

Currently I have:

One spot foxface,
2 banggai cardinals
1 flame angel
2 ocel. clowns
1 royal gramma
3 blue/green chromis

I'm planning to add:

1 green mandarin, Synchiropus splendidus
1 blue-spot watchman goby, cryptocentrus pavoninoides

Will these last two compete for food too much?

Should be fine

I regularly feed sustainable aquatics mini-pellets three times per day from apex autofeeder and a 1/4" cube of thawed Roggers each morning which the cardinals eat. I also put in 1.5" square of sea veggies each morning on a clip which the angel and foxface munch on through the day.

I have started hatching baby brine for the coming mandarin in quarantine/observation and have refugium rock in the quarantine for him which should be full of mysis also during his observation stay. It's not such a big chore that I can see doing it regularly for the mandarin if necessary.

You should be ok, but baby brine are an excellent supplemental food

The goby will be quarantined elsewhere for 4 weeks before I get it. I would be concerned with that; especially if elsewhere is a LFS

Anything to be concerned about?

 

[Ratpac4]

72Gal reef.

Would canary blenny get along with with either the purple or Fridmani psudochromis?

 

[snorvich]

72Gal reef.

Would canary blenny get along with with either the purple or Fridmani psudochromis?

complete stocking list? P. fridmani is less aggressive

 

[Ratpac4]

complete stocking list?

Not the complete list but the addition that I'm concerned about.

Other inhabitants:

Kole Tang
Two OCC Clowns
BTA
Canary Blenny
Pair of Banggai
Diamond Goby
CUC

I am looking for the vibrant purple color and like the psudos.

 

[Eud]

About the goby:

I would be concerned with that; especially if elsewhere is a LFS

It's being quarantined by my super detailed friend who sometimes does it as a service for some of us in the club. He keeps great records, keeps the fisn in dedicated tanks so new arrivals don't get mixed with old, treats with chloroquine phosphate and cupramine if necessary, and gets them healthy and, hopefully, set up for a good transfer into our tank.

He just doesn't have the bandwidth to do something similar for a mandarin with their special needs. I'm hopeful it will turn out all right.

Thanks very much for this thread where we can get easy sanity checks.

 

[snorvich]

complete stocking list?

Not the complete list but the addition that I'm concerned about.

Other inhabitants:

Kole Tang
Two OCC Clowns
BTA
Canary Blenny
Pair of Banggai
Diamond Goby
CUC

I am looking for the vibrant purple color and like the psudos.

Pseudochromis are aggressive. This thread is designed around predicting behavioral interactions among all inhabitants of a tank.

 

[snorvich]

About the goby:


It's being quarantined by my super detailed friend who sometimes does it as a service for some of us in the club. He keeps great records, keeps the fisn in dedicated tanks so new arrivals don't get mixed with old, treats with chloroquine phosphate and cupramine if necessary, and gets them healthy and, hopefully, set up for a good transfer into our tank.

He just doesn't have the bandwidth to do something similar for a mandarin with their special needs. I'm hopeful it will turn out all right.

Thanks very much for this thread where we can get easy sanity checks.

In the case you mentioned, with that protocol,l I am confident that the QT will be effective. Thanks.

 

[adamlopez00]

Help for a brand new hobbyist

Help for a brand new hobbyist

Thanks in advance for your thoughts..

I am brand new to the hobby and am a relative novice. My tank was setup by a buddy that has his own shop and tank maintenance business. I have a 46gal bowfront that is roughly 7 weeks old. I used roughly 35 lbs of sand from an existing tank and it's 2-3 in deep.

55 lbs of live rock, with half being branch coral (Tonga?)
I have a hang on protein skimmer
I have a rectangular canister filter
1 additional powerhead running, and possibly adding another

Current corals:

2 different colonies brown mush coral ( 8 or so coral in each colony, each colony on their own rock-could get rid of one of them)
1 red people eater frag
small colony of fire and ice zoanthid
frag of pulsar zoanthid
1 colony green mushroom coral
small colony star polyps
1 kenya tree coral
1 colony green stripe mushroom coral
1 colony cabbage leather coral
1 small colony button polyps
1 big colony random zoanthid
1 small acan lord brain coral

Fish: 1 pair (not sure if mated, only had 3 days) midnight ocellaris clown. I had a six line wrasse initially for about 3 weeks (my buddy said this would be a great fish) without incident. Once the clowns were added, he attacked the both of them relentlessly (they never fought back) until I researched him and found out he was likely to do exactly that. Caught him and traded him in to my LFS for fish food.

CUC: roughly 14 mixed hermit crabs (1 halloween, 2 blue knuckle, asstd dwarf and cortez)
3 snails (not sure, were hitchhikers from LR or corals)

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish
carpenters flasher wrasse
green clown goby
purple firefish


What do you think of that list?

 

[codyjp]

I'm setting up a 50 cube. I have a pair of maroon clowns that will be going in. Would it be possible to add either/and/or a tang or a dottyback? I'm not married to any particular variety yet or I could just be happy with my two clowns as well.

If I were to add the clowns I could add them last to let the other tank mates get established first.
Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

Thanks in advance for your thoughts..

I am brand new to the hobby and am a relative novice. My tank was setup by a buddy that has his own shop and tank maintenance business. I have a 46gal bowfront that is roughly 7 weeks old. I used roughly 35 lbs of sand from an existing tank and it's 2-3 in deep.

55 lbs of live rock, with half being branch coral (Tonga?)
I have a hang on protein skimmer
I have a rectangular canister filter
1 additional powerhead running, and possibly adding another

Current corals:

2 different colonies brown mush coral ( 8 or so coral in each colony, each colony on their own rock-could get rid of one of them)
1 red people eater frag
small colony of fire and ice zoanthid
frag of pulsar zoanthid
1 colony green mushroom coral
small colony star polyps
1 kenya tree coral
1 colony green stripe mushroom coral
1 colony cabbage leather coral
1 small colony button polyps
1 big colony random zoanthid
1 small acan lord brain coral

Fish: 1 pair (not sure if mated, only had 3 days) midnight ocellaris clown. I had a six line wrasse initially for about 3 weeks (my buddy said this would be a great fish) without incident. Once the clowns were added, he attacked the both of them relentlessly (they never fought back) until I researched him and found out he was likely to do exactly that. Caught him and traded him in to my LFS for fish food. good call, they are a PITA

CUC: roughly 14 mixed hermit crabs (1 halloween, 2 blue knuckle, asstd dwarf and cortez)
3 snails (not sure, were hitchhikers from LR or corals)

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny excellent but only one blenny in this sized tank
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish not shrimp safe
carpenters flasher wrasse needs a larger tank
green clown goby fine
purple firefish fine


What do you think of that list?

 

[snorvich]

I'm setting up a 50 cube. I have a pair of maroon clowns that will be going in.

that species of clownfish will want to control your entire tank once sexually mature

Would it be possible to add either/and/or a tang needs a larger tank, especially a longer tank or a dottyback very aggressive ? I'm not married to any particular variety yet or I could just be happy with my two clowns as well. with this species of clownfish, and perhaps a host anemone and coral, I would not add additional fish

If I were to add the clowns I could add them last to let the other tank mates get established first. would make no difference
Thanks!

 

[adamlopez00]

hi steve

hi steve

The fish I am looking to add at the moment(not every one of these, just likely 2-4 of these on this list, depending on your capability thoughts):

Dwarf flame angel or cherub angel
Lawnmower blenny excellent but only one blenny in this sized tank
canary blenny (better than Midas blenny?)
longnose hawkfish not shrimp safe
carpenters flasher wrasse needs a larger tank
green clown goby fine
purple firefish fine

Thank you so much for your reply. Do you have a preference or think I will have less problems with either the canary blenny vs lawnmower blenny? and dwarf flame angel vs cherub angel? and what about a pygmy wrasse? I really appreciate what you are doing for people in this thread. You're helping a lot of people and saving a lot of mistakes.

Adam

 

[snorvich]

Thank you so much for your reply. Do you have a preference or think I will have less problems with either the canary blenny vs lawnmower blenny?

I think you will enjoy the lawnmower blenny more

and dwarf flame angel vs cherub angel? flame angel is less aggressive


and what about a pygmy wrasse? excellent fish (any of the three species are behaviorally similar)


I really appreciate what you are doing for people in this thread. You're helping a lot of people and saving a lot of mistakes.

Adam

 

[adamlopez00]

Snorvich...

Snorvich...

Thanks again, you've been a big help.

Adam

 

[snorvich]

Thanks again, you've been a big help.

Adam

Always a pleasure. Feel free to check back if you have revisions, but remember to refresh my memory of tank and inhabitants. :fish1: