Protocol for using antibiotics to treat infected anemones ~Added to 7/30/14
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OrionN
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We should not use broad spectrum antibiotic in a reef/marine tank. These tanks use bacterial as the main filtration method. These antibiotic will cause a lot of unpredictable changes in the bacterial population.
IMO, we should not use antibiotic at all in a marine or reef tank, but definitely not broad spectrum antibiotic.
I bought a Haddoni carpet over a month ago. Within a week, his mouth was gaping. I moved him to a HT and administered Cipro for 7 days. It looked better and was moved back to DT a few days later. After a couple of weeks his mouth is gaping again and he is deflating daily. Should I try Cipro treatment again? Any other suggestions on how to save him?
OrionN
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I would treat again, maybe use Septra DS this time.
Check your tank condition, healthy anemone normally do not get sick out of the blue. Something cause the problem and get him sick. You may not keep him healthy long term unless you fix this. Often just frequent large water change will get the chemistry back to normal and get rid of "bad stuff" that cause them to be sick.
Check your tank condition, healthy anemone normally do not get sick out of the blue. Something cause the problem and get him sick. You may not keep him healthy long term unless you fix this. Often just frequent large water change will get the chemistry back to normal and get rid of "bad stuff" that cause them to be sick.
OrionN
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Cefotaxime is a Cephalosporin antibiotic, third generation. This group the spectrum are mostly gram + intil third generation. Most of these Ceph. third generation drugs are expensive and IV only. Cefotaxime is IV or IM only, not oral thus come only in powder for mixing IV. It cost about 2.50-3.50 per dose
I did not use these because they are harder to get and are more expensive. They are not usually available in outpatient pharmacy since they are only use in the inpatient setting.
I did not use these because they are harder to get and are more expensive. They are not usually available in outpatient pharmacy since they are only use in the inpatient setting.
Amoo
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It's actually generally inexpensive $3.50 for 10ml of 500mg/ml. I do understand that it is meant for IM or IV use, but this still goes back to my earlier comment about Vanco, as long as we're suspending it in the water column it's going to get into the Nem's body. Beyond that, we don't know much more about what it's reactions could be as we do with a "normally" oral medication like Cipro.
Maybe I need to look up the method of delivery for plants, but I feel it's an unexplored option with something with a little more coverage, or at least different coverage, than Cipro is currently giving us.
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This site seems to have a pretty solid list of what we have potentially at our disposal. There's not much I can think of that we use in the vet industry on a daily basis that isn't listed here:
http://www.phytotechlab.com/pdf/antibiotics.pdf
Maybe I need to look up the method of delivery for plants, but I feel it's an unexplored option with something with a little more coverage, or at least different coverage, than Cipro is currently giving us.
Edit:
This site seems to have a pretty solid list of what we have potentially at our disposal. There's not much I can think of that we use in the vet industry on a daily basis that isn't listed here:
http://www.phytotechlab.com/pdf/antibiotics.pdf
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OrionN
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It certainly harder to come by. I treat Human so I do not know much about what is available for researcher or Vet. The following is my information about pricin gof cefotaxime from uptodate.com, a professional medical information site that I use a lot.
I try to use medication that is cheap and easily available. If what we usually use does not work then we can expand to different antibiotic. Cephotaxime can be use and it should be effective. I would use 1000 mg per 10 liter. If you use it, please post so we can all gain some experience. These are wholesale price. Pharmacy will add their profit on top of this. AWP is Average Wholesale Price
Quote from uptodate.com
Pricing: U.S.
Solution (Claforan in D5W Intravenous)
1 gm/50 mL (50 mL): $16.15
2 gm/50 mL (50 mL): $28.54
Solution (reconstituted) (Cefotaxime Sodium Injection)
1 g (1): $2.64
2 g (1): $13.00
10 g (1): $65.00
500 mg (1): $6.38
Solution (reconstituted) (Claforan Injection)
1 g (1): $2.06
2 g (1): $5.05
10 g (1): $22.68
500 mg (1): $1.80
Solution (reconstituted) (Claforan Intravenous)
1 g (1): $4.04
2 g (1): $7.32
Disclaimer: The pricing data provide a representative AWP and/or AAWP price from a single manufacturer of the brand and/or generic product, respectively. The pricing data should be used for benchmarking purposes only, and as such should not be used to set or adjudicate any prices for reimbursement or purchasing functions. Pricing data is updated monthly.
I try to use medication that is cheap and easily available. If what we usually use does not work then we can expand to different antibiotic. Cephotaxime can be use and it should be effective. I would use 1000 mg per 10 liter. If you use it, please post so we can all gain some experience. These are wholesale price. Pharmacy will add their profit on top of this. AWP is Average Wholesale Price
Quote from uptodate.com
Pricing: U.S.
Solution (Claforan in D5W Intravenous)
1 gm/50 mL (50 mL): $16.15
2 gm/50 mL (50 mL): $28.54
Solution (reconstituted) (Cefotaxime Sodium Injection)
1 g (1): $2.64
2 g (1): $13.00
10 g (1): $65.00
500 mg (1): $6.38
Solution (reconstituted) (Claforan Injection)
1 g (1): $2.06
2 g (1): $5.05
10 g (1): $22.68
500 mg (1): $1.80
Solution (reconstituted) (Claforan Intravenous)
1 g (1): $4.04
2 g (1): $7.32
Disclaimer: The pricing data provide a representative AWP and/or AAWP price from a single manufacturer of the brand and/or generic product, respectively. The pricing data should be used for benchmarking purposes only, and as such should not be used to set or adjudicate any prices for reimbursement or purchasing functions. Pricing data is updated monthly.
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OrionN
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You should be able to get medication easier and cheaper than the rest of us. Please post if you decide to use other medications (other than Cipro and Septra)
Amoo
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Mihn,
You're welcome to add my ongoing thread to the OP if you choose.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2421087
You're welcome to add my ongoing thread to the OP if you choose.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2421087
OrionN
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Amoo,
If you don't mind, please write a summary of your recommendation regarding medications and doses, I will see if Debi can added it to the first post, clearly state that it is your recommendation. I think this will help give everybody different choices and regiment to use to treat sick anemones.
