Radion Gen 4 Pro
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No clue. Depends on how much coverage you need.
Pny
New member
Not sure if this is legit, but I saw this...
It looks fake to me since several things does not look the same on the different views, the heatsink, placement of LEDs etc...
ThurlowR
Member
It's real. Also some more info from another forum :
1) The fixture looks similar in design/looks but the internals have changed.
2) A G3 to G4 upgrade is not possible due to these changes
3) New heatsink, optics, and LEDs
4) New optics that are claimed to improve light spread considerably
5) Two additional channels/LEDs/colors are warm white and violet
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maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
Likely that it's not a matter of allowing an upgrade, but rather more likely the fact that it's not possible to upgrade the internals without losing money on the deal.
First and foremost, Eco-Tech Marine is a business.
If it cant make money, it wont remain in business.
They make a good product and have excellent customer service. I recently upgraded my Gen1's to Gen 3's. I'm happy with the upgrades and feel that the cost to upgrade was fair for what I got.
It's likely that upgrading Gen 3's to Gen 4's (if possible) would essentially entail stripping everything out of the Gen 3 and replacing it all with the Gen 4 internals.
If that is in fact the case, buying an upgrade that is very close to the price of buying a whole new fixture doesnt make sense financially to anyone.
I'll use my Gen 3's til they fall apart, and then I'll upgrade to whatever is available at the time. Hopefully, that will be an Eco-Tech product at that point, but if there is a better product at a better price, I'll look at it.
Eco-Tech's Customer service has been exemplary every time I've needed them which goes a LONG way towards future purchases from them, but like anything...they need to be continually improving and evolving their product line.
Which leads us full circle back to the Gen 4 Radion....
First and foremost, Eco-Tech Marine is a business.
If it cant make money, it wont remain in business.
They make a good product and have excellent customer service. I recently upgraded my Gen1's to Gen 3's. I'm happy with the upgrades and feel that the cost to upgrade was fair for what I got.
It's likely that upgrading Gen 3's to Gen 4's (if possible) would essentially entail stripping everything out of the Gen 3 and replacing it all with the Gen 4 internals.
If that is in fact the case, buying an upgrade that is very close to the price of buying a whole new fixture doesnt make sense financially to anyone.
I'll use my Gen 3's til they fall apart, and then I'll upgrade to whatever is available at the time. Hopefully, that will be an Eco-Tech product at that point, but if there is a better product at a better price, I'll look at it.
Eco-Tech's Customer service has been exemplary every time I've needed them which goes a LONG way towards future purchases from them, but like anything...they need to be continually improving and evolving their product line.
Which leads us full circle back to the Gen 4 Radion....
jwilliams860
Member
+1 Eventually the externals and internals are going to be compatible with the older versions, hence my sons gen 1 ipad wont play any of the new games. Eventually Im going to have to buy the new product.
The current Gen 3 Pros are an amazing light and alot of people are having great success with them, I think all of us either have those or the older versions, so its easy to upgrade to the gen 3 pro and you will still have years of good use.
We will have to wait and see what the Gen 4 "officially" looks like. If its a significant enough upgrade to justify replacing with it then it might make sense. Also if they cant swap the internals from the older version to the newer ones. The Gen 4 might be essentially the Gen 1 of the next run of lights, so having the Gen 4 would put you in line with the next batch of upgrades.
I think Ecotech has done what they initially set out to do and built a light that was upgradable, I still have my original Gen 1 and no issues, and its build date is October 2011. Almost 5 years of continued support and upgrades is almost unheard of these days. Heck even Google doesnt offer to swap the guts of my Nexus phone at a discount.
jwilliams860
Member
Over on RBuilders they have some photos of the new lense design as well as news that the light will have 23 LEDs per puck.
ThurlowR
Member
https://premiumaquatics.com/products/ecotech-radion-xr30wg4-led-light.html
Wonder if it will work with Neptune's WXM ?
Wonder if it will work with Neptune's WXM ?
Arkayology
Active member
I was hoping they would put lime into the mix.
fcmatt
Member
A 5 foot powermodule ATI 8 bulb T5 with LED still costs right around that mark. So I guess that isn't too bad really when you consider other high end options.
Mr. Brooks
MASVC Member
Will the Gen 4 work with Neptune's WXM module?
As Marine Depot today's video is going to be compatible with the WXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw
uwish
Member
http://reefsupplies.ca/online-store/content/g4/G4_Release_Packet_072816_web.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw
apparently they are available next week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSw2p6DNw
apparently they are available next week.
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Akrite
New member
After watching the video I see a design flaw. The new HEI optics extend past the body of the Radion shining light in all directions, making unpleasant viewing angles. It's noticeable in the side by side comparison of the G3 and G4. The TIR lens doesn't have this problem unless your looking up at it.
Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.
Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I see in the video. Left side of the tank looks brighter too.
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