Reefbreeders/(Evergrow OEM) Fixtures D120/IT20** series
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bhazard451
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The leds are the same that would be used in the value fixture. No difference.
The major differences are the heatsink, moonlights, much better hanging kit, and the sunrise/sunset controller (with remote). They are all well worth the price difference.
meshwheel
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hazard,
Seems you can get a much more natural light progression with the controller! I would think it would be easier to dial in too as far as intensity is concerned.
Do you actually use less wattage when only running the whites as say.....30% and the blues at say.......80% ? Just curious if dialing them down reduced watts used.
If so, your really substantially lowering the wattage vs. a metal halide!
Thanks
Seems you can get a much more natural light progression with the controller! I would think it would be easier to dial in too as far as intensity is concerned.
Do you actually use less wattage when only running the whites as say.....30% and the blues at say.......80% ? Just curious if dialing them down reduced watts used.
If so, your really substantially lowering the wattage vs. a metal halide!
Thanks
Ron Reefman
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I will when I get home from the weekend trip.
bhazard451
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Its not exactly natural. The light timing changes every half hour to what you set it to instantly. It doesn't smoothly ramp up or down. That's an improvement that could be made if they make future revisions to the light. Its still nice to have the light automatically get brighter and dimmer though.
Yes. If you run at 50%, you will be using less wattage than at 100%. You can buy a kill-a-watt meter to measure it.
meshwheel
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Ahhh, gotcha! I own a kill-o-watt! Alright, here's the scenerio:
36x18x24 tank. Acrylic, with small center brace:
1. 2 value fixtures?
2. 1 24" fixture? Would spread be enough?
3. one 32" fixture? Too much spread? I love the 300 watts! To much wattage?
Tank will be mainly SPS with some lps down at the bottom in shaded areas. What do you think??
Getting ready to pull the trigger here. Was going to go T5's. These have me pretty excited!
Thanks!
36x18x24 tank. Acrylic, with small center brace:
1. 2 value fixtures?
2. 1 24" fixture? Would spread be enough?
3. one 32" fixture? Too much spread? I love the 300 watts! To much wattage?
Tank will be mainly SPS with some lps down at the bottom in shaded areas. What do you think??
Getting ready to pull the trigger here. Was going to go T5's. These have me pretty excited!
Thanks!
bhazard451
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Go with the 32" 200w. It will cover the tank perfectly. I have a 72" and each 32" fixture covers each 36" section very nicely. You won't have any shadows, and it will be a nice even coverage. The brace won't matter.
You'll be able to grow SPS and clams without any issues. My clams and SPS are doing pretty well. Start at a low intensity for a week or two to acclimate though, or you can end up bleaching some coral very easily.
Keep us posted and take lots of pics if you do get it.
Ron Reefman
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I agree with bhazard451, get the 32" and you won't be sorry. If you are going with a custom led layout, get the moonlights switched to violet. They aren't as visible as the blue stock leds and I have to run my moonlights a 2 (range is 1-9) because they are so bright.
Oh, and welcome into the 21st century you old school VW guy! :wavehand: :lol2:
meshwheel
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:beer:bHazard,
Thanks! Yes, I see what you mean by no shadow! I hate to spend a load of money, but this looks to be the best route for me. These lights have got me finally trusting in led. And your mille pic looked really good. Looks like its thriving under the led's.
I was originally interested in the Maxspect Razor and or the Kessil's. This looks to be a fixture that you really get alot for your money. And the 2 year warrantee is the bomb.
I like how it's here in the USA too. I guess I should start a build thread. HA!!!
Ron,
HAHAHAHAHAH! Yea, I love the VW's and always have since I was a kid! And I am Jewish too. Go figure! But it's a fun car! That's it! If I am going anywhere and want to be comfy, it's the Ford pick up or the wifes car!
I am starting to feel pretty comfortable now with the led's. Looks like they may be dialed in pretty well now. It's the fact that I have SPS, and they are pretty demanding.
Thanks for the tip with the moonlights too. I will certainly do that. You guys think the 90 optics for this unit are fine correct? My tank is 24 deep. Does this fixture have the same blues/spectrum as the Maxspect Razor? I need to look that up.
Thanks again for all the help guys!:fish1:
Thanks! Yes, I see what you mean by no shadow! I hate to spend a load of money, but this looks to be the best route for me. These lights have got me finally trusting in led. And your mille pic looked really good. Looks like its thriving under the led's.
I was originally interested in the Maxspect Razor and or the Kessil's. This looks to be a fixture that you really get alot for your money. And the 2 year warrantee is the bomb.
I like how it's here in the USA too. I guess I should start a build thread. HA!!!
Ron,
HAHAHAHAHAH! Yea, I love the VW's and always have since I was a kid! And I am Jewish too. Go figure! But it's a fun car! That's it! If I am going anywhere and want to be comfy, it's the Ford pick up or the wifes car!
I am starting to feel pretty comfortable now with the led's. Looks like they may be dialed in pretty well now. It's the fact that I have SPS, and they are pretty demanding.
Thanks for the tip with the moonlights too. I will certainly do that. You guys think the 90 optics for this unit are fine correct? My tank is 24 deep. Does this fixture have the same blues/spectrum as the Maxspect Razor? I need to look that up.
Thanks again for all the help guys!:fish1:
bhazard451
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90 optics are the best.
The Razors have the edge (ha) in looks, and the ability to smoothly ramp up and down. The reef breeders light has the edge in a slightly better spectrum bump and visual appeal due to the 660nm red LEDs. It really brings out red and orange pigments, and clownfish radiate with it. It also has the ability to swap LEDs, which is huge to me. I've swapped around LEDs no less than 6 times already to improve my layout since my first led fixture a year ago.
They are both the best price/performance led fixtures out now, until something else comes out that can beat them.
meshwheel
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Hazard,
Thanks! Yea, I was really interested in the Razor at one point. I still really like it. However, these fixtures one up it in wattage too. If I went with 2 single values it would be 240 watts!!!:eek1: I figured that would be even better, and the light could overlap in the center, hitting my center brace a tad more!
I thought the 2 value led's would be better. But I understand what you are getting at with the 32" fixture. I think both have a few pro's and con's comparing them.
Do you fell the SPS crals benifit from the red and green led's in these fixtures??
Thanks again.
Thanks! Yea, I was really interested in the Razor at one point. I still really like it. However, these fixtures one up it in wattage too. If I went with 2 single values it would be 240 watts!!!:eek1: I figured that would be even better, and the light could overlap in the center, hitting my center brace a tad more!
I thought the 2 value led's would be better. But I understand what you are getting at with the 32" fixture. I think both have a few pro's and con's comparing them.
Do you fell the SPS crals benifit from the red and green led's in these fixtures??
Thanks again.
Ron Reefman
Active member
Just my 2 cents worth... The corals and you benefit from the reds (corals use red and you get to see color), you benefit way more from the green than the coral does (you may see it, but the coral really doesn't need it), and I don't think it makes much difference to how the corals look. But that's me, others may have different opinions.
bhazard451
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Not sold on green. I'm sold on cyan though. Visually it looks the same, but it has better photosynthesis potential.
seadooer21
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Hi everyone,
I am new to this forum and I am starting a new 90 gal saltwater tank I should ge it next week. I am going to have a refugium also. But what I am most confused about is the lighting. I want LED and want to be able to program them with the sunrise sunset and be able to dim them there are so many I don't know what to buy can anyone help me PLEASE I want lots of corals and some fish.
I am new to this forum and I am starting a new 90 gal saltwater tank I should ge it next week. I am going to have a refugium also. But what I am most confused about is the lighting. I want LED and want to be able to program them with the sunrise sunset and be able to dim them there are so many I don't know what to buy can anyone help me PLEASE I want lots of corals and some fish.
krshlln300
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Well from the looks of it Reefbreeders will be the best you can get at the price they offer. Plus the Photons seem to be controllable- Honestly in my opinion these are making Ecotech and Aquaillumination look like second rate fads.
bhazard451
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I wouldn't say second rate, but the price/performance ratio is much, much better. There is no reason LED lighting needs to be so expensive, other than to price gouge.
seadooer21
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Will the photon 32" work on a 48wx18Dx24H tank I am worried about the width
having low light levels at the ends. Oh if a led burns out does the whole fixture go out?
Thank you for your replies
having low light levels at the ends. Oh if a led burns out does the whole fixture go out?
Thank you for your replies
Reef_Breeders
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It will work, but the outer 6" on each end will have to be for lower light corals. You can put sps in the middle 36". If an LED burns out, a small wire within the diode will keep the rest of the string going. I have witnessed this a couple of times (out of hundreds of units
) and typically the user leaves it as is for the time being, or send s it in for replacement.seadooer21
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What can be done to illuminate a 48 inch tank fully? Two 24" photons?
This will all need to fit into a 13" tall canopy. Maybe it is beneficial to have lower intensity lighting at the ends. What do you think the best solution is?
Candy
This will all need to fit into a 13" tall canopy. Maybe it is beneficial to have lower intensity lighting at the ends. What do you think the best solution is?
Candy
latinyoungn
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if noone has done so already, I have plans to measure power usage with my Kill-A-Watt this weekend
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