Any pics. possibly?
Reefbreeders/(Evergrow OEM) Fixtures D120/IT20** series
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Any pics. possibly?
bhazard451
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Wow! Thanks for the info! Looks like I might be selling my MP40s.
Ron Reefman
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Here is a link to the RC thread. There are pics and a video of it in my tank.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2259644
I'm going to say yes, but it could be close. I have a 4' 55g QT and I put 1 D120 (value fixture) over it at first. I tried taking the 90 degree lenses off the end 2 rows of both sides. It was close, but the ends of the tank were still in the shadows. So I got a different manufacturers light, an EXACT duplicate of the EG D120, right down to the dimmer knobs and the hanging hardware. The 2 fixtures together are more than enough for the 4' tank and should be enough for a 5' tank IMHO. But the SunSun 'copy' of the EG D120 has crappy fans that make some noise. If they were over a tank in my living room rather than in my reef room (back bedroom) I wouldn't be happy with it and would be replacing the fans.
If you already own MP40's I don't think I'd switch... well, but then I did switch from an Eco Tech Radion to an EG IT2040 and sold the Radion. But I think the IT2040 is a better fixture because it's easier to adjust. But if you want some serious flow in a 120g tank or bigger, one WP40 from Jebao will do the job. I sat down and calculated it out. 4500gph is 18 tons of water per hour! The problem with the Jebao unit is, you can't dial back the max flow rate. You can vary the pulse length or the ramp up/ramp down interval of the stream mode (from like 4 to 11 seconds), but it always goes up to 4500gph which is really a strong current. The word on the street is that they will be releasing a smaller version, WP25, soon. In the mean time some of us are working on ways to control or adjust the maximum flow. I could block some of the water intake grille and that would probably work, but could be hard on the pump. I have a variable output DC powersupply on order to try replacing the 24v DC supply that comes with the pump. I also have a guy who has volunteered to build a new, more functional controller. But I'm going to wait on that until I see what the WP25 is like. I sent Jebao an email yesterday asking about the release date. Oh, and you are welcome. You helped me with EG leds, so I kinda owed you one! :thumbsup: :beer:
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bhazard451
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12000L, not gallons. It comes out to about 3200gph, which is the same as what an MP40 puts out max. No one ever runs an MP40 at max though, because it is too loud.
Since its DC and built off a simple circuit, there will be some very interesting mods that are possible.
Ron Reefman
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bhazard451,
Wow, how did I get that so wrong! You are right on the money, 12,000LPH is the same as 3170GPH. My bad...
As for the noise, I can't say I've ever heard an MP40 at full flow, but the WP40 at full flow is only a tiny bit louder than at any other speed.
And I'm seriously hoping that the adjustable DC power converter will slow the pump down and still run the controller. The unit I'm getting has 9 (I think... now you have me questioning any numbers I keep in my head. LOL!) 9 different voltages between 15v and 24v. If 15v will run at 62.5% of 3200gph, that would be 2000gph... right? I'll be a happy camper. And I haven't heard anything back from Jebao about the WP25 yet (and my guess is I probably won't).
Wow, how did I get that so wrong! You are right on the money, 12,000LPH is the same as 3170GPH. My bad...
As for the noise, I can't say I've ever heard an MP40 at full flow, but the WP40 at full flow is only a tiny bit louder than at any other speed.
And I'm seriously hoping that the adjustable DC power converter will slow the pump down and still run the controller. The unit I'm getting has 9 (I think... now you have me questioning any numbers I keep in my head. LOL!) 9 different voltages between 15v and 24v. If 15v will run at 62.5% of 3200gph, that would be 2000gph... right? I'll be a happy camper. And I haven't heard anything back from Jebao about the WP25 yet (and my guess is I probably won't).
bhazard451
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The controller unit inside should have a voltage regulator providing enough voltage at all times to the unit as long as you stay above its minimum. Technically, this adapter should work.
Curt2199
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Ron, I sent you a PM as well as Logan. I'm pretty sure I want to switch things up on my 180g and instead of doing 3 of the value fixtures, I'd rather do 2 of the IT2060s. I figured it up and if spaced evenly apart then that's only 8" between the fixtures and edges of the tank on my 6ft 180 (according to my math that is the same amount of coverage area as 3 of the 16". I also thought about how much of a paing it will be to hide that may power cables. Do you think that 90 degree lenses should be fine for this setup if the lights are mounted in a canopy about 8-10" or so over the water? Should I go with 120s or see if I can just get a few 120 lenses for the edges to help blend the lights? My 180 is the old style Oceanic with the glass brace so I'm not so concerned with a dark spot in the middle. Thanks!
Also do the Photo 24s have PWM or Analog dimming or are they the resistance dimming like the value fixtures? I'm planning on an Apex or Reef Angel controller in the future.
And Login, depending on the results of this question, I'll be ready for an invoice. Sorry for all the back and forth as I had the local guy telling me one thing and the people on here telling me another. I think I've made the right decision now.
Also do the Photo 24s have PWM or Analog dimming or are they the resistance dimming like the value fixtures? I'm planning on an Apex or Reef Angel controller in the future.
And Login, depending on the results of this question, I'll be ready for an invoice. Sorry for all the back and forth as I had the local guy telling me one thing and the people on here telling me another. I think I've made the right decision now.
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Ron Reefman
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Curt, I replied to your PM and with the IT2060, which is the Photon24 (Is that right Logan?) you will want 90 lenses on everything because the leds have been spread out over 24" rather than 16" in the IT2040. If you have (and I don't think you will) have low lights at the ends, i'd sperate the lights further apart (closer to the ends) and remove some lenses at the ends in the middle of the tank where both lights should overlap some.
Reef_Breeders
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The name is correct. They correspond to length in inches. We figured a cool name would be better than just the "controllable fixture" or the IT etc.
Curt2199
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Thanks Ron. And he brought up another good question. Do we have any par numbers for the 2060s (24")? Since I'm doing mainly LPS, it's not so much of a concern and I assume I could do SPS at the middle or near the top of the tank just fine going that route. I could always upgrade to a 3rd 2060 down the road if I was concerned about PAR. Anyone disagree with that?
bhazard451
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The Photon/IT have their own controllers built in.
PAR numbers for the 16" fixture in a 24x 24 x 21 area with the light hung 7" above the water hits ~350 dead center at the sand bed. The 24" 2060 should be a little less, but similar.
Reef_Breeders
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No, they Use TRIAC dimming, 13-47V I believe.
bhazard451
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More Mille growth. The fact that this SPS piece is alive is a miracle. It "died" when I transferred it to the new tank. Here it is reborn after ~2 months.
Before it died in the old tank.
Reborn
Before it died in the old tank.
Reborn
bhazard451
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Under the 32" controllable Photon32. Lights ramp up slowly to 100%, stay there for 3 hours, then slowly ramp back down to 0% by midnight.
The light is 9" off the water, and it is a few inches down.
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