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True, but I'd have to plumb another seperate line back into my AquaClear, and it just looks cleaner with having one line come out of it and T'ing off like I have it now. I could of done it either way I guess. Really didn't need to feed it with a minijet...I'm more feeding it from the Rowa reactor plumbing now then the minijet, at least that was my intentions.
 
Ray, I just feed mine with the peristaltic, no need for any other pumps, that's the point. I just put the suction line in the sump, no prefilter, it's only a 1/4' line, no need to prime, it will self prime from like 15 feet below the pump, no need to submerge the output either! If you want to see my pics just go back aways in the thread.

Good luck, Scott
 
KRAZ4REEFS said:
Ray, I just feed mine with the peristaltic, no need for any other pumps, that's the point. I just put the suction line in the sump, no prefilter, it's only a 1/4' line, no need to prime, it will self prime from like 15 feet below the pump, no need to submerge the output either! If you want to see my pics just go back aways in the thread.

Good luck, Scott

1/4' line :eek1: :eek1:

Hehe... 1/4" line I hope. Man, I really hope I won't have to use a peristaltic with my setup. I had Jorge change the configuration a bit, so maybe I won't have the same problem. I have to test that sucker anyways. Too bad I ran out of funds to complete my calcium reactor set (no valve or CO2 tank :( ). I guess the Kalkwasser and water changes will have to do for now. I'll send a pic of what I had Jorge do, when I get the reactor tomorrow. I can still run the reactor without media and CO2 addition I suppose just to see if everything is a go... but it probably wouldn't give me the same result. But at least this way, maybe we can see if it's the pressure that's causing the slow down.

Peace,
John H.
 
Here's the mod, posted with Jorge's permission.

NOTE: The new reactors don't need this mod as the new design is being shipped

Piping assembly modification

The following modification will minimize the issues with flow slowing down over time, while maintaining the reverse flow and its benefits:

Move the effluent output from the top line (suction of the pump) to the bottom line Outlet of the pump). The pump will maintain a more stable pressure but will require that the effluent control valve be installed also at the output and not at the input of the reactor. As this literally will run the reactor pressurized at whatever the inlet pressure of the inflow water is, the overall higher operating pressure will have the advantage to make the small variations in the loop pressure negligible so the effluent flow will be more stable. In addition, higher operating pressure will help for faster and better dissolution of CO2. At a higher partial pressure the water is able to hold more CO2 increasing the overall performance. The only disadvantage with this modification is that if too much pressure is applied to the inlet, like when feeding directly from the return line, the excess pressure will make the reactor leak at the flanges if not potentially crack it open. To prevent this, a feed system with a bleed line must be used to limit the inlet pressure. (See attached diagram)

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/0.jpg>



Needed parts and Instructions

For reactors without uni-seals:
a) 1 Ã"šÃ‚½" Male adapter
b) 1 Ã"šÃ‚½" Threaded Tee (SxSxFips)
c) 1 Slip * Thread Bushing 1/2" * 1/4"
d) 1 John Guest male pipe connector 3/8" Tube x Ã"šÃ‚¼" NPT
e) 1 Ã"šÃ‚¼" or 3/8" John Guest X Ã"šÃ‚¼&#148; MPT valve*
f) 3" of Ã"šÃ‚½" PVC Pipe
g) 3/8" OD tubing, enough to go back from the reactor to the sump

*If you have already bought the needle valve I sell, you won't need to buy another valve since you can reuse the ball valve it replaced.

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/1.jpg>


1 Begin by emptying your reactor.
2 Disconnect the effluent lines
3 Unscrew the pump output from the elbow in the lower part of reaction chamber
4 Remove the effluent valve on the circulation assembly and the JG fitting from the effluent output
5 Screw the new 3/8" JG (d) where the effluent valve was
6 Screw the ball valve (e) in the output

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/2.jpg>

7 Glue the pipe (f) and the bushing (c) to the T (b) and screw the effluent valve to the bushing

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/3.jpg>


8 Screw the male adapter (a) to the elbow in the reaction chamber.
9 Glue the assembly you just made to the male adapter (a) making sure the pump output can be screwed into the T without much stress on the flex tube.
10 Screw the pump output to the T (b) (you might have a blue ribbed tube instead of the tube pictured)

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/4.jpg>


11 Connect the input to the new 3/8" JG fitting (d).
12 Connect the output to the effluent valve using the new piece of 3/8" tubing (f).
13 The new valve on top of the circulation assembly (e) will work as a purge valve. It will need to be opened to let the air escape while filling the reactor. You can use the old effluent output tubing (green) to take the valve output back to the sump to avoid spilling water.


For reactors with uni-seals:

a) 1 Ã"šÃ‚½" Threaded Tee (SxSxFips)
b) 1 Slip * Thread Bushing 1/2" * 1/4"
c) 1 John Guest (or similar) male pipe connector 3/8" Tube x Ã"šÃ‚¼" NPT
d) 1 Ã"šÃ‚¼" or 3/8" John Guest X Ã"šÃ‚¼" MPT valve*
e) 2" of Ã"šÃ‚½" PVC Pipe
f) 3/8" OD tubing, enough to go back from the reactor to the sump

*If you have already bought the needle valve I sell, you won't need to buy another valve since you can reuse the ball valve it replaced.

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/5.jpg>


1 Begin by emptying your reactor.
2 Disconnect the effluent lines
3 Unscrew the pump output from the elbow in the lower part of reaction chamber
4 Pull the elbow out of the uniseal
5 Remove the effluent valve on the circulation assembly and the JG fitting from the effluent output
6 Screw the new 3/8" JG fitting (c) where the effluent valve was
7 Screw the ball valve (d) in the output

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/2.jpg>

8 Glue the pipe (e) and the bushing (b) to the T (a) and screw the effluent valve to the bushing

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/7.jpg>


9 Insert the new assembly into the uni-seal in the reaction chamber.
10 Screw the circulation pump output to the T (a) (you might have a blue ribbed tube instead of the tube pictured)

<img src=http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/saltyseaman/Reeftek/8.jpg>


11 Connect the input to the new 3/8" JG fitting (c).
12 Connect the output to the effluent valve using the new piece of 3/8" tubing (f).
13 The new valve on top of the circulation assembly (d) will work as a purge valve. It will need to be opened to let the air escape while filling the reactor. You can use the old effluent output tubing (green) to take the valve output back to the sump to avoid spilling water.

Dial in directions

When setting the effluent rate, set it to your initial value and let it run for 12 hrs. At this point, if you are using a very slow flow it might have stopped or slowed down. Don't panic. It takes some time for the pressure to equalize in the reactor. Do not close the valve. Just open it enough for the effluent to begin flowing again and set it back to the rate you need. The flow will stay constant. It also helps if you don't use a flow slower than 20ml/m. Reduce the CO2 count rather than the effluent rate beyond that point to adjust the output of the reactor.
 
Modification updates

Modification updates

Hey All,

Well, I finally got my reeftek calcium reactor and I am very happy with it. I had Jorge do a new mod, which he tells me that he really likes and he's putting it on all the new units he ships. It's fairly simple and you could easily do it yourself. Anyways, the mod is basically putting the valve directly on the output of the recirculating pump. The flow/water first comes out the output, flows into a T PVC fitting, with the SMC valve screwing into the end of the T (straight part) and then then the other end of the T (perpendicular to the straight part) recirculating back into the calcium reactor.

With this mod, it also may make my "no-feed" pump approach very viable, as I've got a steady flow rate and I only need the one recirculating pump to feed and recirculate (no heavy pressure on the pump). Of course I'm just water testing and have no media in it as of yet, but I don't think it should effect it so much.

Peace,
John H.
 
Well, I have taken the JG valve on the end off now. Some how, it might have been creating too much back pressure, because the ractor started leaking at the flanges. Since I have taken it off, it no longer leaks. So I am just trying to get it to stabilize by repeatedly increasing the effluent flow, every time it slows down. I am probably dripping close to 66ml a minute right now. For the guys out there that don't have the slow down problem, how fast is your effluent and BPM?
 
Ray,

Was it leaking from the o-ring? You are feeding off your return pump, so in this case you need the pressure relief line.

Jorge
 
Jorge,

You should post some pics of your tank in your gallery. I'm sure a lot of people would be interested to see what you've got in there.

Peace,
John H.
 
Re: Modification updates

Re: Modification updates

rufio173 said:
Hey All,

Well, I finally got my reeftek calcium reactor and I am very happy with it. I had Jorge do a new mod, which he tells me that he really likes and he's putting it on all the new units he ships. It's fairly simple and you could easily do it yourself. Anyways, the mod is basically putting the valve directly on the output of the recirculating pump. The flow/water first comes out the output, flows into a T PVC fitting, with the SMC valve screwing into the end of the T (straight part) and then then the other end of the T (perpendicular to the straight part) recirculating back into the calcium reactor.

With this mod, it also may make my "no-feed" pump approach very viable, as I've got a steady flow rate and I only need the one recirculating pump to feed and recirculate (no heavy pressure on the pump). Of course I'm just water testing and have no media in it as of yet, but I don't think it should effect it so much.

Peace,
John H.

Think that you could post some pics of this, or at least a schematic?
 
Reeftek Mod

Reeftek Mod

Here's the mod that I had Jorge do on the calcium reactor he sent me. It's very easy to do and I'm sure if you were inclined to, you could easily DIY:

showphoto.php


Peace,
John H.
 
For those that don't like clicking

For those that don't like clicking

Hey,

This is the pic for those people that don't like clicking links :)

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Peace,
John H.
 
Well,

I dont understand the slow down either. Just in the past week it has become ridiculous. At night I set the needle valve at 60 drips and in the morning it is either stopped or barely dripping. From that position I open the needle vavle even more and the vicious cycle continues. I figure within a week or two the needle valve will be wide open and the effluent will still be stopping lol. Anyway thankfully I bought an Aqua Medics SP3000 a while back when they were on sale - so I will just be hooking that up in the next couple of days.
 
Mike,

I got this from another ReefTek user, it might be you want to look into it.

Jorge,

I got the little valve a while back and it works great. I was too lazy to do the whole modification, and just wanted to replace the valve with the new one that can be more accurately adjusted. Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve had a few problems with the flow slowing down lately, but it has not been because of the design.

Here are the 2 problems and resolutions that might help in trouble shooting issues with other customers:

I have the reactor running off of one of my return pumps. The T of my return line has a ball valve with a JG fitting and a tube that connects to the new valve. The T is on a horizontal PVC line that runs underneath the tank from one of the stand to the other. I pointed the T facing down for space reasons. After running the reactor for about 2 months it kept slowing down even after adding the new valve. I finally disconnected the feed from the reactor to check the flow and it was blocked. Junk that was being pushed through the pump had been accumulating in that T until it finally blocked the flow to a trickle. I sucked on the line (Not the best idea Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve had) and all the crud from inside that T came shooting out and solved the clogging problem. I will have to work out some kind of trap for debris, but now know that it is a potential problem area to keep an eye on.

I was messing with it tonight and thinking about doing the modification when I started looking at how the thing flows. I looked like the 2nd chamber was hardly supplying any of the ca after studying how all the flow through the plumbing goes. I decided to check your site to see if there were pictures with the new modification and noticed that the pictures on the site are the same configuration I have except the two tops are opposite. I had somehow managed to swap the two topsââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ positions when I initially set things up two months ago and have been running it like this the whole time. After changing the tops I immediately noticed a big improvement in the ability to adjust the flow.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Bryan

So it might be the valve is becoming clogged since you are seeing less and less flow.

Jorge
 
Re: Reeftek Mod

Re: Reeftek Mod

rufio173 said:
Here's the mod that I had Jorge do on the calcium reactor he sent me. It's very easy to do and I'm sure if you were inclined to, you could easily DIY:
showphoto.php

Peace,
John H.

That's an excellent picture. Now, since no good deed goes unpunished, could you take another pic from just a bit farther back, so that I can be absolutely sure where each of the pipes are connected? Is the feed pump line still connected as it was originally?
Thanks a ton,
Tagamet
 
Hey Tagamet,

I can't get another pic because the reactor is at home and I'm at school. Basically the only change in the modification is that the pump is forcing water directly out, therefore, what goes out must also come in, so all you need is the one pump to run everything. I'm sure you could do the same thing with the previous modification, but I thought this would be a sure fire way to pull it off. The feed goes into the same JG fitting, except I don't push it with the maxijet or any other pump for that matter.

Peace,
John H.

P.S. I hope that helps... I know that a picture is worth a thousand words and then some, but since it's a simple modification, maybe the description will suffice.
 
rufio173 said:
Hey Tagamet,

I can't get another pic because the reactor is at home and I'm at school. Basically the only change in the modification is that the pump is forcing water directly out, therefore, what goes out must also come in, so all you need is the one pump to run everything. I'm sure you could do the same thing with the previous modification, but I thought this would be a sure fire way to pull it off. The feed goes into the same JG fitting, except I don't push it with the maxijet or any other pump for that matter.
Peace,
John H.
P.S. I hope that helps... I know that a picture is worth a thousand words and then some, but since it's a simple modification, maybe the description will suffice.

Hmmm, how 'bout I talk you through an angioplasty (lol). Everything's relative, I guess.
If there is only one pump, what feeds water to the reactor?
Thanks,
Tagamet
 
Hi John,
Have you put any media into the reactor, and run it without the feed pump, please give a status report such as the stability of the effluent flow, CO2 dissolution which Jorge said is not going be optimal as one supplied with a dedicated MJ1200. My purchase decision will be based on your answer, so your quick reponse is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-A
 
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