S. Gigantea Carpet Anemone Tank
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cichlidconvert
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I was a nurse not a doc but I agree 110%. Your looking for a therapeutic level in the water as opposed to individual dosing.
Catchoftheday
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I now understand a little better . Minh do you think he could run into a problem
treating more then one gig per QT . I wish he was closer to be so i could leand him 3 of my QT tanks and heaters and PH
nemoboy1
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Agreed...
Reef1589
Anemones for life
i still love this idea, but i agree with others, you should of setup individual QT tanks, or perhaps slow it down and instead of getting so many bulk at once.. maybe 1 or 2.. at a time.. that way you wouldnt need 8 10 gallon tanks 
, till you meet your Target Number.. but nonetheless, i wish you the best of luck for sure! 
, till you meet your Target Number.. but nonetheless, i wish you the best of luck for sure! 
OrionN
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If I get 8 at a time, I am not sure if I wanted to set up 8 treatment tanks.
That importer in England, in one of the thread about imports a bunch of Gigantea to England, got it right when he have one system but with individual boxes for each anemone. Mediation and strong UV filter to zap everything in the water, that case the anemones would not pass diseases among each other.
If you get a bunch of anemones together, naturally the one with the most virulent and resistant infection will pass that bad bacterial to the others.
That importer in England, in one of the thread about imports a bunch of Gigantea to England, got it right when he have one system but with individual boxes for each anemone. Mediation and strong UV filter to zap everything in the water, that case the anemones would not pass diseases among each other.
If you get a bunch of anemones together, naturally the one with the most virulent and resistant infection will pass that bad bacterial to the others.
nemoboy1
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I think that we can all agree cipro helps these gigs recover from some sort of pathogen infections from shipping/stress/dying zoos... If one has the time or space to do individual treatment by all means do it... My theory is this 1-100 in a treatment tank with x amount of water per 250mg will kill the pathogen regardless of how many gigs are in the tank but remember it doesn't help them in recovering from wounds etc... I have not treat my new gigs because I feel these guys have already been treat for 4 days prior to shipping them and further treating them wouldn't benifit them in any way... Prolonged to cipro can hurt them more than help them.
I will assessed them and determine if any needs treatment plus I'm allowing them to recover and hopefully they can built their strengths back up first...those who can't will get treated for about 3 days... I invested lots of money into something I loved and to not give them my best ability to help them strive in my system would be a waste of my time...
I will assessed them and determine if any needs treatment plus I'm allowing them to recover and hopefully they can built their strengths back up first...those who can't will get treated for about 3 days... I invested lots of money into something I loved and to not give them my best ability to help them strive in my system would be a waste of my time...
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nemoboy1
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Ok
Well down to one... My conversation prior to Ben sending the replacement was that he has a new source where they (his supplier) don't cloned them. Will that wasnt the case when I received them... I can safely say I had some experiences in spotting slice/dice one from whole gigs. Each one of them dropped like flies after a couple if days... Had treat one that looks better than the rest with cipro and it parished faster... Cipro doesn't help when they are coming in cloned and not fully fully healed completely to where they are normal looking and eating... I bet these animals are starved to death prior to and after being slice. I am way mad about this situation and I'm not sure if my credit card/PayPal can do anything although I do have our conversation saved... I would expect him to atleast return half since he knew this was the case or even all of the money. Anyone who has dealt with something similiar please chime in by pmd me.
My project would be on hold until I can gather some more cash and find some nice whole gigs from LFS.
On a note if these gigs were to come in whole and not slice I believe I would have been more successful... Knowing what I know now please asked plenty of questions before buying. The reason I didn't ask about gigs being cloned because it was unheard of... So now y'all know. Thanks.
I will be back.
Well down to one... My conversation prior to Ben sending the replacement was that he has a new source where they (his supplier) don't cloned them. Will that wasnt the case when I received them... I can safely say I had some experiences in spotting slice/dice one from whole gigs. Each one of them dropped like flies after a couple if days... Had treat one that looks better than the rest with cipro and it parished faster... Cipro doesn't help when they are coming in cloned and not fully fully healed completely to where they are normal looking and eating... I bet these animals are starved to death prior to and after being slice. I am way mad about this situation and I'm not sure if my credit card/PayPal can do anything although I do have our conversation saved... I would expect him to atleast return half since he knew this was the case or even all of the money. Anyone who has dealt with something similiar please chime in by pmd me.
My project would be on hold until I can gather some more cash and find some nice whole gigs from LFS.
On a note if these gigs were to come in whole and not slice I believe I would have been more successful... Knowing what I know now please asked plenty of questions before buying. The reason I didn't ask about gigs being cloned because it was unheard of... So now y'all know. Thanks.
I will be back.
Pinkskunk
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i doubt you have a case buddy. you already knew and documented your progress and are aware of the situation yet continued to repeat your purchase. The seller will have his case. He doesnt know, he repeatedly said so, you knew, you repeated said so, yet you continued to make purchase. he continues to sell you unaware of the cloning, you continued to buy hopng it is not cloning ~ you rolled the dice and you lost....... if you follow what i am saying. very sorry for your lost and frustration though.
nemoboy1
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Ok I guess you are his buddy...
Don't know if you were under a rock but I didnt keep rolling the dice. I don't think I need to re-explain everything to just you. Go back and reread all my documantions and see if you come to the same conclusion.
Unless you are my credit card co I can text you my conversation with him... Btw he knows they were cloned its in his text buddy
The second was a replacement not a repurchase... If he didn't tell me it was from a new source I would have acted with my credit card co and got this taking care of...
benjaminspades
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First off,
I didn't even charge you for the second 8. And to the best of the situation i sent you 8 HEALTHY ones from the best of my observation that have even been in my tank AFTER cipro treatment for at least a week WHICH YOU WERE AWARE OF.... It's very curious how 16 happen to die upon entering your tank. There are plenty of situations and plenty of scenarios that could be involved with your PARAMETERS ALONE. It's true you and I don't know 100% of their needs and their requirements you can't just pin this all on me. I gave you a reasonable doubt and sent 8 on top of the 8 you paid at half price. I gained nothing out of this and even lost much of my time and effort working with you. I spent and waited for at least 3 shipments just to hand pick out of easily 200 to give you those 8. After seeing how many die by your hand alone I am convinced you're truly missing something. There was even one gigantea that was in my display tank for 3 weeks and somehow miraculously died in your tank. I'm starting to infer what type of game you're trying to pull. I feel everyone would agree that I went out of my way to make a bad situation better but I can't just keep sending gigas to you if your tank has a problem. What if you have a certain param that is off? Have you ruled that out? You can't just go accusing people of cheating you when you didn't even give them a chance to show you facts.
It's true that I did say that I have multiple sources from obtaining giganteas BUT I did not state that I was going to use a new source for this particular shipment. I did however replace your last 8 free of charge asside from shipping. I feel that was very reasonable.
I seriously guess you just can't please them all.
I didn't even charge you for the second 8. And to the best of the situation i sent you 8 HEALTHY ones from the best of my observation that have even been in my tank AFTER cipro treatment for at least a week WHICH YOU WERE AWARE OF.... It's very curious how 16 happen to die upon entering your tank. There are plenty of situations and plenty of scenarios that could be involved with your PARAMETERS ALONE. It's true you and I don't know 100% of their needs and their requirements you can't just pin this all on me. I gave you a reasonable doubt and sent 8 on top of the 8 you paid at half price. I gained nothing out of this and even lost much of my time and effort working with you. I spent and waited for at least 3 shipments just to hand pick out of easily 200 to give you those 8. After seeing how many die by your hand alone I am convinced you're truly missing something. There was even one gigantea that was in my display tank for 3 weeks and somehow miraculously died in your tank. I'm starting to infer what type of game you're trying to pull. I feel everyone would agree that I went out of my way to make a bad situation better but I can't just keep sending gigas to you if your tank has a problem. What if you have a certain param that is off? Have you ruled that out? You can't just go accusing people of cheating you when you didn't even give them a chance to show you facts.
It's true that I did say that I have multiple sources from obtaining giganteas BUT I did not state that I was going to use a new source for this particular shipment. I did however replace your last 8 free of charge asside from shipping. I feel that was very reasonable.
I seriously guess you just can't please them all.
nemoboy1
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Ben
First off, how could you say you have a gig for 3weeks just for me when you text me on march 16th see attachment for conversation...you wanted to ship them out to me on the 21st but I told you it's best to wait until the beginning of the week. I received these on the 26th of march and they slowly dying after day two.
Water perimeter are fine as evidence show my other gigs in there are healthy and thriving. Secondly, your text stated that you found a new source so I was excited about getting whole gigs not another cut up gigs. How could you say you went above and beyond when you just went back to the same source knowing these guys will not survive very long. I don't think you kept up with your words.. Like I stated before if I would have gotten whole gigs and they perished on me I would not even be mad but when I get sliced up gigs that is another story. I know that anyone here including yourself would be too. I know you tried and yes sometime you can't please them all I have been in your shoes as a seller but you have to admit this time it's your fault for going back to the same source multiple times knowing what you know just to make a quick buck just like a Puppy peddler.
First off, how could you say you have a gig for 3weeks just for me when you text me on march 16th see attachment for conversation...you wanted to ship them out to me on the 21st but I told you it's best to wait until the beginning of the week. I received these on the 26th of march and they slowly dying after day two.
Water perimeter are fine as evidence show my other gigs in there are healthy and thriving. Secondly, your text stated that you found a new source so I was excited about getting whole gigs not another cut up gigs. How could you say you went above and beyond when you just went back to the same source knowing these guys will not survive very long. I don't think you kept up with your words.. Like I stated before if I would have gotten whole gigs and they perished on me I would not even be mad but when I get sliced up gigs that is another story. I know that anyone here including yourself would be too. I know you tried and yes sometime you can't please them all I have been in your shoes as a seller but you have to admit this time it's your fault for going back to the same source multiple times knowing what you know just to make a quick buck just like a Puppy peddler.
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I think he mean he took one out of the display tank that he got about 3 weeks and was not from the shipments, then ship that one to you.
but yeah, telling you he might found a new source that wont cut the gigs and then ship you gigs not from that new source will be kinda shady.
but yeah, telling you he might found a new source that wont cut the gigs and then ship you gigs not from that new source will be kinda shady.
D-Nak
Active member
OP... please post photos of the second set showing the cut marks (just as you provided for the first set) and let us decide for ourselves. There's no point in blaming each other when we can judge for ourselves by seeing the photos.
Unfortunately, by placing all of the gigs in one tank, the dice were rolled so to speak, since it only took one sick gig to infect the others. Many of us recommended that you keep them separated. It was also agreed that Cipro cannot help those anemones that are too far gone, be it from being cut or the typical ailment that we've seen with most gigs. This is why it's important to keep them separated.
On the other hand, if you recieved gigs that were cut and were promised that you would not, then that's another story. That's where the photos come in handy.
Regardless, this is a loss for all of those involved, and for all of us learning that it happened. Quite simply put, we now have 16 dead gigs, which is a terrible loss in itself.
Unfortunately, by placing all of the gigs in one tank, the dice were rolled so to speak, since it only took one sick gig to infect the others. Many of us recommended that you keep them separated. It was also agreed that Cipro cannot help those anemones that are too far gone, be it from being cut or the typical ailment that we've seen with most gigs. This is why it's important to keep them separated.
On the other hand, if you recieved gigs that were cut and were promised that you would not, then that's another story. That's where the photos come in handy.
Regardless, this is a loss for all of those involved, and for all of us learning that it happened. Quite simply put, we now have 16 dead gigs, which is a terrible loss in itself.
nemoboy1
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blackwagon
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He has a video on his youtube of a couple of the new ones being cut. Makes me glad to have my LFS.
