The "Hitchhiker's Guide" to the Maxi-Stream mod

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6646105#post6646105 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
oh, and hehe, one more quick question

its 3/16 rigid tubing isnt it???


3/16" is correct
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6646314#post6646314 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ball
The dual 1.5" prop would spin out of the water, but would not spin in water. Im using this prop.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJ761&P=7


The intakes are that big because I was experimenting with gradually making them bigger till I got the flow I wanted. For the final version, I would do something a lot more safe and pretty.


Might be something to the particular prop that you used. I tried double 1.5" Nitro props on MJ900 and MJ1200 and had no problems whatsoever.

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this is kinda what I was talking about

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I know lousy image but all I had to work with right now is MS Paint
 
Ok just for ****s and giggles I did the flow test using a 1 gallon bag. It took about 2 seconds to fill it and that worked out to be around 1800GPH. This was for the double 1.5" Nitro propeller design.

Not too shabby for a MJ900.


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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6647088#post6647088 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
What's funny is that I did the EXACT same design in my early days of experimenting with these mods :lol: Glad to know I wasn't the only one crazy enough to tried that

Here's an idea I had. Take that basic design of yours (albeit with cleaner cuts) and cover up the gaping holes on the side those plastic rain gutter mesh. Tons of openings for water to go in but the mesh is thin enough to not impede the water intake.


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What made you go away from using these adapters for the mod? To big?

I tried the plastic rain gutter mesh on another prototype I built. It worked well. Im going to try and cut out an intake pattern (clean cuts) with a dremel on the next version.
 
It was IMO as you suspected way too big and unsightly for me to use. Besides getting the most flow out of the mod, my other goal was to have something that's as small as possible without compromising the flow. My latest PVC housing is exactly 2 inches in length and the entire thing is not much larger than what the original Maxijet. I found that it's really not neccessary to make the housing so long either to great great flow pattern from it.


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What size pvc are you using for your dual 1.5 props? Im curious as to how much space is between the blade tips and wall of the housing.
 
Actually I was incorrect earlier. the Nitro Hammer props are not 1.5" they're 1.25" I think. Still great flow and much quieter than the Dumas 1.25"


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Just curious. Have you run the props with no guard to see how much flow your guard is taking away? You say your getting 1800 GPH. Thats awesome. Would you dare esitmate how much flow the dual nitro props generate with no guard? Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649075#post6649075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dhnguyen
Actually I was incorrect earlier. the Nitro Hammer props are not 1.5" they're 1.25" I think. Still great flow and much quieter than the Dumas 1.25"
I did my mod on a 900 w/ a single prop Dumas (since I destroyed all the Nitros I ordered trying to widen it to 3/16). I was very upset with the noise that it creates...it's not too noticable with the lights/fans on, but it annoys the h*** out of me at night when it's dark. It kind of sounds like a humming/buzzing noise...do you think it can be from the Dumas props, or something else like not being perfectly centered. I "measured twice and cut once", so I think I'm good on the cuts, but am willing to try again. You think it might be better by just swapping out with Nitros?
 
Besides getting the most flow out of the mod, my other goal was to have something that's as small as possible without compromising the flow. My latest PVC housing is exactly 2 inches in length and the entire thing is not much larger than what the original Maxijet.

Is that with the MJ400, MJ900, or MJ1200? One prop or two with the "latest PVC housing"?

After reading through this, and other MJ mod threads, I decided to give it a try. My goal is similar to yours.....I'd like to keep it small without compromising too much flow. I'm not looking to win a MJ mod flow competition...just get a little more flow out of these things while keeping it compact. I have an MJ900 and an MJ 1200 to work with. Figured I'd use 1 or 2 of the 1.25" Dumas props (can get local for $1...Nitros not available local) with 1.5" PVC housing...thats it.

Any other suggestions on keeping it small?
 
Does it make the same noise if you hold it freely in the water... It may be touching the tank and because it does vibrate it would make a buzzing sound. If it makes the same noise freely, then I would say you might want to check the centereing out.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649134#post6649134 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jon770
I did my mod on a 900 w/ a single prop Dumas (since I destroyed all the Nitros I ordered trying to widen it to 3/16). I was very upset with the noise that it creates...it's not too noticable with the lights/fans on, but it annoys the h*** out of me at night when it's dark. It kind of sounds like a humming/buzzing noise...do you think it can be from the Dumas props, or something else like not being perfectly centered. I "measured twice and cut once", so I think I'm good on the cuts, but am willing to try again. You think it might be better by just swapping out with Nitros?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649134#post6649134 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jon770
I did my mod on a 900 w/ a single prop Dumas (since I destroyed all the Nitros I ordered trying to widen it to 3/16). I was very upset with the noise that it creates...it's not too noticable with the lights/fans on, but it annoys the h*** out of me at night when it's dark. It kind of sounds like a humming/buzzing noise...do you think it can be from the Dumas props, or something else like not being perfectly centered. I "measured twice and cut once", so I think I'm good on the cuts, but am willing to try again. You think it might be better by just swapping out with Nitros?

Th Nitros are definitely quieter than the Dumas especially when used in the double pop design.

With just the single prop though, the Dumas is still pretty quiet. I suspect that somehow your rod and/or the PVC housing isn't quite as centered as it should be hence the noise.

There will always be some humming from these mods because of the propellers but you can use a propeller balancer to decrease this greatly too. It also help to sharpen the prop blades as best as you can


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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649205#post6649205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TA
Any other suggestions on keeping it small?
if your asking me that would be impossible, he he.


use your MJ900 and dual 1.25 nitro props to get the most flow out of the 1.5 PVC. don't waste your time with the smaller Dumas props.
 
I was worried to sharpen w/ my rotary b/c I don't want to mess up the balance of the prop...

don't have to worry about that?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649205#post6649205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TA
Is that with the MJ400, MJ900, or MJ1200? One prop or two with the "latest PVC housing"?

After reading through this, and other MJ mod threads, I decided to give it a try. My goal is similar to yours.....I'd like to keep it small without compromising too much flow. I'm not looking to win a MJ mod flow competition...just get a little more flow out of these things while keeping it compact. I have an MJ900 and an MJ 1200 to work with. Figured I'd use 1 or 2 of the 1.25" Dumas props (can get local for $1...Nitros not available local) with 1.5" PVC housing...thats it.

Any other suggestions on keeping it small?


That was with the double propeller design on a MJ900
If you're using 1.25" props, you can actually make the housing even smaller by using a 1.25" PVC pipe and just use a test cap to attach it to the MJ body (just glue the test cap onto the 1.25" PVC). But this would not allow as much flow as the 1.5 PVC pipe.

When my wife comes back some time next week from her Sea World/Disneyland trip with the kids, I will get the camera and upload some new pictures of what the housing looks like. Honestly it's not very large or unsightly at all.


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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649320#post6649320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jon770
I was worried to sharpen w/ my rotary b/c I don't want to mess up the balance of the prop...

don't have to worry about that?


Don't use the rotary tool. You should use 600 grit sand paper or a small file to sharpen the blades.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649127#post6649127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ball
Just curious. Have you run the props with no guard to see how much flow your guard is taking away? You say your getting 1800 GPH. Thats awesome. Would you dare esitmate how much flow the dual nitro props generate with no guard? Thanks.


I would have no idea actually :lol:

The double Nitro prop design is just too strong for the thing to keep inplace inside the MJ body to spin without a guard. Everytime I tried it the whole magnet would just shoot out completely.

Now the Dumas 1.75" propeller, I can tell ya that it kicks some serious butt in terms of flow. Too much in fact for my puny 55g tank.


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