Thumbs up for Ozone!

[Travis]

liquidfunk, Are you running ozone yet or are you still trying to figure out the problems with the x-10's? If you are not running ozone yet then, no, 225 is not a low number at all.

 

[liquidfunk]

from neptune systems
"It may take as long as week for the ORP probe to stabilize. Typically they read between 100 and 200 when installed, and go up 25 to 50 mV per day until it stabilizes."


Ive only run the ozone intermitantly.

 

[Reefdude5]

O3 is very dangerous, in fact deadly. If you can smell it in the air then you need to do something about it. I'm not too familiar with the euro reefs as I've never owned one. Where does the air come out of the skimmer? Is there holes on top of the collection cup? If so, just fill a filter bag with carbon and set it on top of the holes.

Thanks Travis, is that really all that needs to be done? The holes are on the outside of the top of the collection cup. All i need to do is put a bag of carbon over the top? How much? Is that really precise enough? If it is then I'm not complaining, it would be great, just want to know! Thanks

 

[Member No. 1]

I put a bag of carbon on top of my RedSea Berlin using O3 and it works great. I believe it was a 3 pack that fits a AquaClear. 1 bag will do it. I run my RedSea 100mg Ozone at 50-75% and let the AquaController 3 Pro do the rest.
Besides, it's already in a pouch. 3 bags per box for around $7 at the LFS

 

[liquidfunk]

Reefdude, what I did is cramed a piece of 3/8 inch nylon hose into the outlet on my collection cup (its all precision marine) I ran this into a little jar filled with carbon, drilled another outlet hole and stuffed in a cotton ball to hold the carbon it.

Worked beautifull, Im sure the plastic jar will degrade over time, but hopefully the carbon will work quick enough to not damage the jar quick and make a mess if it breaks....

 

[Reefdude5]

Thanks for the advice, what would you suggest for a collection cup that has 10 holes (bout 1/5") drilled in a circle around the perimeter? Thanks! That sounds like a good idea but it seems like that would only work for a cup with a single outlet.

 

[Reefdude5]

So a large bag of carbon that you drap over the top of the collection cup is all? Does it need to have a rubberband around it so that it is airtight?

 

[brahm]

alright, so.. i woke up and my orp is now 235 (not running any ozone yet..just have the probe installed.

 

[Member No. 1]

So a large bag of carbon that you drap over the top of the collection cup is all? Does it need to have a rubberband around it so that it is airtight?

Nope... just plop it on there. If I remember tonight, I snap a pic, and see what carbon I'm using.

 

[Reefdude5]

Thanks Pete. Any more advice anyone? The Red Sea 100mg ozonizer should be coming tomorrow!

 

[Reefdude5]

Ut Oh, do you need an airpump to push the air into the ozone generator? I thought it would just draw it in, any specific size or type? Are they at Homedepot, the setup is this Friday so what ever I need I'll have to get quick!

 

[vmichael]

my ORP is still reporting about 225, its been in there for about 40 hours now. How long does it usually take to read accuratly? Should I be concerned with this low number?

If you have doubts you can do the following;

Place the orp meter and the flow of O3 gas into a small container filled with water for an hour or so; it should drastically increase the orp level in the small container.

This will let you know that either your orp meter is faulty or your O3 generator is not putting out.

 

[vmichael]

Are those beads rechargable? Do they change color when exhausted/recharged? If so, I'm stocking up and making a bigger air dryer.

rechargeble? YES Color changing, NO.

Recharge at least once per month; this varies, depending on the amount of desicant you are using in the air dryer and the amount of humidity in the room.

 

[joelsaxton]

Ut Oh, do you need an airpump to push the air into the ozone generator? I thought it would just draw it in, any specific size or type? Are they at Homedepot, the setup is this Friday so what ever I need I'll have to get quick!

If the O3 is going in through a venturi then no air pump is necessary. The pump on my skimmer pulls the O3 from the generator through O3 safe tubing so there is no need for an air pump to push it from the other side.

 

[gbtower]

After a quick search on the net, it seems that they make some kinds of kitty litter ("crystal" variety) with silica gel (=cheap). Has anyone tried this as a dessicant? Also, an interesting design for an air dryer had a large column filled with standard gel followed by a small clear container with the color-changing gel. That way, you don't have to use all color-changing.

 

[Member No. 1]

ReefDude,
I checked, yes it is a carbon bag for an AquaClear 70.
No air pump on mine, it works fine. Just make sure you use air line that is Ozone safe.
Don't sweat the small stuff... all will be fine.
Here is a picture of the carbon.... Carbon

 

[Reefdude5]

Thanks a ton Pete, that's what I thought it should look like! Thanks joelsaxton, i was hoping the venturi would do the trick, sounds like a plan.

 

[Travis]

Thanks Travis, is that really all that needs to be done? The holes are on the outside of the top of the collection cup. All i need to do is put a bag of carbon over the top? How much? Is that really precise enough? If it is then I'm not complaining, it would be great, just want to know! Thanks

Yup, just put the bag right on top of the holes. Make sure the bag is covering all of the holes. I would just use a media bag big enough to fit over all of the holes and fill it full of carbon. If you can still smell 03 then you need more carbon. If not, then you are good to go. If it is working properly you won't be able to smell any 03 at all.

 

[Travis]

Ut Oh, do you need an airpump to push the air into the ozone generator? I thought it would just draw it in, any specific size or type? Are they at Homedepot, the setup is this Friday so what ever I need I'll have to get quick!

Depends on how you hook up the ozone. If you hook the venturi airline directly to the output of the generator then you don't need an air pump. If you tee off another line from the venturi and hook that to the generator then you will need an air pump. Just buy the smallest size hobbyist air pump you can find.

The benefit of hooking the generator directly to the venturi is that you won't need a generator. The problem with this is that if you use dryer beads you will be constantly sucking air through them regardless of wether or not the generator is on. This will cause them to need recharging more often.

The benefit of using an air pump and teeing off the venturi line is that you can hook the air pump to the generator controller so that they both cycle on/off when needed. This way you aren't running air through the dryer beads when the generator is off. Hence, you will be able to go longer before recharging. You should be able to find a cheap air pump for about $5.

 

[Travis]

rechargeble? YES Color changing, NO.

Recharge at least once per month; this varies, depending on the amount of desicant you are using in the air dryer and the amount of humidity in the room.

Do they recharge the same way? I'm assuming they do. I guess it doesn't matter if they are color changing or not. I could just make a large air dryer out of a few feet of 1.5" PVC and fill it with these beads. Then I will hook my red sea air dryer to the output of this one and keep the color changing beads in the red sea dryer. When the regular beads get exhausted the color changing beads in the next dryer will start changing color, which will indicate it is time to recharge.

Any special beads I need to search for? Or do I just look up "dessicant" beads and any will work?