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[Travis]

liquidfunk, If you want to add an airstone to the skimmer for ozone injection you will need a powerful (see: expensive) air pump to get the airstone to work (lots of fine bubbles instead of a small number of large bubbles that will hinder skimmer performance). Don't forget that you need to run an air dryer with your ozone unit or else its efficiency can be decreased by up to 70%, scale will build up on the corona discharge, and it will produce nitric acid. If you are using a powerful air pump to push air through the air dryer and then through the generator you will be needing to recharge your beads every hour or so. Adding "good" airstones with a powerful air pump is an excellent, and highly recommended, way to increase the performance of any skimmer (especially with the quality and performance of today's airstones and air pumps) but I wouldn't run your ozone through the same air line. I think it is best to run a slower air flow through the ozone unit so you aren't having to constantly recharge the dryer beads.

 

[captain7359]

What is a good cfm or cfh to be pulling through the O3 generator. The reason I ask is I want to inject via a venturi into a O3 reactor and only want to add enough air to get the O3 into solution. Does it make a difference how much air you pull through or does it just change the concentration of the O3?

 

[harsaphes]

can someone explain how to tee off the line for me. thankyou

 

[Travis]

What is a good cfm or cfh to be pulling through the O3 generator. The reason I ask is I want to inject via a venturi into a O3 reactor and only want to add enough air to get the O3 into solution. Does it make a difference how much air you pull through or does it just change the concentration of the O3?

I don't think there is really any set in stone number for the cfm to move through the generator. I would take the output from the generator and stick it under water. If you are getting at least a few bubbles per minute that should be sufficient. As long as you tee off your venturi line for the O3, the O3 will mix with the rest of the incoming air so it shouldn't be much more concentrated with a higher or lower cfm rate through the generator.

 

[Travis]

can someone explain how to tee off the line for me. thankyou

Since you say "line" I'm assuming you have a venturi skimmer. You can just go to Wal-Mart and get an airline tee. Take your venturi line and extend it further past your needle valve. Then add the tee so the air goes through the tee before the needle valve. On one of the outlets of the tee is where you plug the ozone tubing into. The other outlet just draws air for the skimmer. I prefer to have the tee before the air control device so that you get consistent airflow to the skimmer regardless of whether or not the ozone unit and air pump are on or off.

 

[harsaphes]

thanks

 

[brahm]

OK So I'm Picking up a Red Sea 100mg Unit with controller prop ect, Now I have an ASM Skimmer. Can I run it through that I seem to be reading mixed things? Or am I going to melt it?

 

[liquidfunk]

I got my enaly tuesday, ran it for about 30-45 minutes the last couple of nights. No noticible change yet (my controller doesnt arrive until friday so I cant run it normal).

It creates a very strong electrical smell, is that the normal ozone smell? I still need to rig up a carbon filter for the water and air as well.

 

[vmichael]

I got my enaly tuesday, ran it for about 30-45 minutes the last couple of nights. No noticible change yet (my controller doesnt arrive until friday so I cant run it normal).

It creates a very strong electrical smell, is that the normal ozone smell? I still need to rig up a carbon filter for the water and air as well.

The best way to put ozone into a tank is through the use of an ozone reactor chamber. Any exiting water and ozone from this chamber can be fed into the skimmer for furhter processing.

If you smell ozone then your O3 is not getting processed enough in the water.

The rest of this post is not directed at anyone in particular.

The worst way to introduce ozone into a tank is by using an air stone and dropping into a tank. That 's just asking for trouble. You've invested a lot into your hobby. Go go just a step further and do it right.

 

[samsfishnchips]

vmichael,

did you mind info on why you said "The best way to put ozone into a tank is through the use of an ozone reactor chamber."

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=296375&highlight=ozone

thx

sam

 

[brahm]

ok I'm thinking about ordering this..


http://www.petsolutions.com/OZONE+OXYGEN+REACTOR-I-96300796-I-.aspx

but It really looks like a phosban reactor with an airline going into it! Is that all there is to it? If so then it will be the first link on my three link Reactor chain haha..

Basically I'll have the Ozone Reactor, that feeds into a phosban reactor full of carbon, that will feed into a phosban reactor full of rowa, and then back into the sump, I don't think i'll have much problems with ozone geating back into my system or sticking up the house if the water leaving the reactor gets forced through another reactor full of carbon.

What do you guys think? Good Idea. Or Diaster waiting to happen? Or Am I better of running it trough my skimmer?

 

[Travis]

OK So I'm Picking up a Red Sea 100mg Unit with controller prop ect, Now I have an ASM Skimmer. Can I run it through that I seem to be reading mixed things? Or am I going to melt it?

Are the ASM's made out of extruded or cast acrylic? If it is cast acrylic there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

 

[Travis]

It creates a very strong electrical smell, is that the normal ozone smell? I still need to rig up a carbon filter for the water and air as well.

Yup, that's the smell of ozone. Get a carbon filter on the air output before you risk doing serious damage to yourself.

 

[shred5]

brahm
Those type of units work really well.. they work under a little pressure and the water trickle through the bioballs... I have never used that type of unit but know others that have it is basically the same as any ozone reactor... you run the output through some carbon...

Dave

ok I'm thinking about ordering this..


http://www.petsolutions.com/OZONE+OXYGEN+REACTOR-I-96300796-I-.aspx

but It really looks like a phosban reactor with an airline going into it! Is that all there is to it? If so then it will be the first link on my three link Reactor chain haha..

Basically I'll have the Ozone Reactor, that feeds into a phosban reactor full of carbon, that will feed into a phosban reactor full of rowa, and then back into the sump, I don't think i'll have much problems with ozone geating back into my system or sticking up the house if the water leaving the reactor gets forced through another reactor full of carbon.

What do you guys think? Good Idea. Or Diaster waiting to happen? Or Am I better of running it trough my skimmer?

 

[samsfishnchips]

ok, since vmichael is not around to comment, maybe others might have some input on this statement, from rvitko, moderator of the tunze forum,

shred5, the issue here is the pressure created by these ozone reactors, have you tested it? thx

2- This is false, checck with Aquatic Eco systems, O3 under pressure collides with other O3 molecules and they become O2 again. A venturi is the best method.

sam

 

[Reefdude5]

In your experienced opinions, would this situation work? Get a 50mg or 100mg unit with airdyer then "T" it into the airline for a ER CS8-4 skimmer? How would you use it in this skimmer? Can you use it in this skimmer, will it make it brittle?

 

[shred5]

Dont know anything about that.. Maybe Randy could comment more on that... I suppose it is possible and something that maybe should be looked at.. chemistry is not my strong point....
Do you want to post that question in Randy's chemistry forum....
Dave

ok, since vmichael is not around to comment, maybe others might have some input on this statement, from rvitko, moderator of the tunze forum,

shred5, the issue here is the pressure created by these ozone reactors, have you tested it? thx



sam

 

[MR clown]

If i have a 75 gallon reef, would the ozone be safe to run through my skimmer without a controller. How would i know the correct seeting to control it at and how long should i run it a day? Also should carbon be placed near the output of the skimmer?Thanks

 

[shred5]

If i have a 75 gallon reef, would the ozone be safe to run through my skimmer without a controller. How would i know the correct seeting to control it at and how long should i run it a day? Also should carbon be placed near the output of the skimmer?Thanks

That is kind of a loaded question... You dont say how much ozone.. Plus in my opinion I ran ozone without a controller, But I would never say it is safe to run ozone without a controller... I would hate to see someone nuke their tank... but in small amounts it is pretty safe for the tank... Yes the output should be run through carbon to remove any excess ozone... I know some people dont ... But to me it is not worth the risk....

Dave

 

[Reefdude5]

I have a 180g, and a couple questions,

1) Would a 50mg or 100mg with airdryer/controller be best for 200g total volume

2) Should I run it through the Euro-Reef skimmer using a T or run it through a O3 reactor?

3) How stable is ozone, if it has to travel from one end of a 65g sump with 1500gph through the sump, will it not stand a chance of being reactive once it enters the display?

4) Using O3 with mixed tanks? Will the ozone help break down the chemicals used in allelopathy?