Thumbs up for Ozone!
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vmichael
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TroyT said:
No, I haven't. But one of the best ways to do it and see the substantial difference is to take a picture during the water changes. Fill a 5 gallon bucket preferebly white in color with tank water prior to using ozone and take a picture. Then, do the same thing after you've had o3 running for a while.
One thing that I have noticed is that the water I'm taking out is just as clean as what I'm putting back in. I live Fort. Lauderdale so we get our replacement water from a great area about a mile or 2 offfshore. Prior to using O3 the water coming out had a green tint to it. Now its crystal clear going in and coming out.
Makes me wonder if I need to do water changes?
liquidfunk
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I just wish I could get my enally to run with my aquacontroller, I still havent been able to do it without havok on my X10 controls.
Any yet had success with enaly on X10?
Any yet had success with enaly on X10?
liquidfunk
Premium Member
im not worried about that,,,,, mine just wont work with the X10 at all with the enaly running, even through a filter.
liquidfunk
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why use an additional controller when my aquacontroller has an ORP probe, and I can control ozone with that?
Why would I waste another $200 on a seperate controller when I have one already?
Why would I waste another $200 on a seperate controller when I have one already?
reeffantic
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I am currently using ROWAphos for my phosphates and I now have water that is much clearer than it ever was. If I decided to go the oZone route, would I need the ROWAphos anymore or would that be overkill?
juststartingout
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This maybe a stupid question...
I have noticed that my ORP swing is from about 300-340. 300 in the evening when ph is the highest, and 340 in the am when ph is low (ph swings from abt 8.1-8.3). If I set my AC2 to say 375 ORP, and it injects O3 into my system in the evening to reach 375, when the ph is high, what is going to happen when ph starts to fall overnight? Will the ORP then rise to a level above 400? Should I set my ORP lower than 375?
I'm just curious, I haven't use my ozonizer yet. I was curious what to expect.
I have noticed that my ORP swing is from about 300-340. 300 in the evening when ph is the highest, and 340 in the am when ph is low (ph swings from abt 8.1-8.3). If I set my AC2 to say 375 ORP, and it injects O3 into my system in the evening to reach 375, when the ph is high, what is going to happen when ph starts to fall overnight? Will the ORP then rise to a level above 400? Should I set my ORP lower than 375?
I'm just curious, I haven't use my ozonizer yet. I was curious what to expect.
hurleycr
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Ok,
I have some quesitons here.
First let me explain. I already have an ORP controller from pinpoint. I got it by accident when I ordered my Ph controller, set up an RA for the return and havn't done it yet. Then I stumbled on to this thread. I have spent the past two hours reading it, and now want to use ozone.
But first....
I'm assuming that it doesn't have any effect on the existing equipment such as my Korallin Calcium Reactor, Ph Probe, and what not...
What other equipment do I need for the Red Sea unit that comes with the Air Dryer.
Also can I put the outlet into the JG fitting in my Aqua C?
Does it have any ill effect towards sand bed critters...pods, etc. ?
Water Quality wise, will have any ill effects or swings with nitrite, nitrate, calcium, alk., or anything else?
I have no coral yet, I researching coral when I stumbled across this. So is it best to add the ozone now or can I still wait if I wanted?
Thnx,
Chris
I have some quesitons here.
First let me explain. I already have an ORP controller from pinpoint. I got it by accident when I ordered my Ph controller, set up an RA for the return and havn't done it yet. Then I stumbled on to this thread. I have spent the past two hours reading it, and now want to use ozone.
But first....
I'm assuming that it doesn't have any effect on the existing equipment such as my Korallin Calcium Reactor, Ph Probe, and what not...
What other equipment do I need for the Red Sea unit that comes with the Air Dryer.
Also can I put the outlet into the JG fitting in my Aqua C?
Does it have any ill effect towards sand bed critters...pods, etc. ?
Water Quality wise, will have any ill effects or swings with nitrite, nitrate, calcium, alk., or anything else?
I have no coral yet, I researching coral when I stumbled across this. So is it best to add the ozone now or can I still wait if I wanted?
Thnx,
Chris
Travis
10 and over club
hurleycr,
1. That is correct.
2. You will probably need a small air pump. Just go to Wal-Mart and buy the smallest one you can find. And don't for get the neoprene (ozone safe) tubing.
3. I don't think you will be able to find neoprene tubing that will fit into the JG fitting. You could switch out the fitting for a regular 1/8" nipple.
4. It only effects what it comes in contact with.
5. Nope!
6. Add it when YOU are ready. Fully research the benefits and possible harms before you make your decision. There is no need to rush into it.
1. That is correct.
2. You will probably need a small air pump. Just go to Wal-Mart and buy the smallest one you can find. And don't for get the neoprene (ozone safe) tubing.
3. I don't think you will be able to find neoprene tubing that will fit into the JG fitting. You could switch out the fitting for a regular 1/8" nipple.
4. It only effects what it comes in contact with.
5. Nope!
6. Add it when YOU are ready. Fully research the benefits and possible harms before you make your decision. There is no need to rush into it.
i have a 180 gal tank with a 80 gal reef sump. What size Red Sea ozone should i buy and how much % should i run it at. Should i run it 24/7? I have a MRC MR5 protein skimmer, where can i hook this ozone at? Which Red Sea model comes with a monitor so it can shut off automatically when it starts to exceed the recommend setting? What should be the recommended level on the monitor? And last but not least, i have an 40 watt UV Sterilizer hooked up which i run 24/7. can i run both of these without encountering a problem, feel free to give me any advice possible. thanx
David
David
Travis
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Hi David,
Please do read through this thread as there is a lot of valuable information in it. You can also search for other ozone threads. I know there are at least 2 other really good ones.
Personally, I would get the 200mg/hr unit. You may not decide to run it at 100% but you have the option to if you need to. You also would less likely need to upgrade the unit with future system upgrades. The Aquazone Deluxe is the unit that comes with the probe, controller, air dryer, and ozone generator.
How much ozone you run is up to you. People run them many different ways. Some run them 100% 24/7. Some have them set to maintain a specific ORP range. Some run 25% for a few hours per day. It is what you want. I would spend some time researching and then determine what you want to run yours at.
I posted some picks a page or 2 or 3 back on how I hooked up my ozone to my MR-6.
Yes, you can also run your UV with ozone. They complement each other very well.
Please do read through this thread as there is a lot of valuable information in it. You can also search for other ozone threads. I know there are at least 2 other really good ones.
Personally, I would get the 200mg/hr unit. You may not decide to run it at 100% but you have the option to if you need to. You also would less likely need to upgrade the unit with future system upgrades. The Aquazone Deluxe is the unit that comes with the probe, controller, air dryer, and ozone generator.
How much ozone you run is up to you. People run them many different ways. Some run them 100% 24/7. Some have them set to maintain a specific ORP range. Some run 25% for a few hours per day. It is what you want. I would spend some time researching and then determine what you want to run yours at.
I posted some picks a page or 2 or 3 back on how I hooked up my ozone to my MR-6.
Yes, you can also run your UV with ozone. They complement each other very well.
hurleycr
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Wouldn't ozone be the same as a calc reactor...?
meaning that it depends on your personal tank and its demands. There wouldn't be a set amount.
Travis:
So how would I be able to run it through my skimmer just plumb it into the intake right?
So far I havn't found anything as far as "possible harms", well not anything as far as actual proof. There is always a possible harm. There is a possible harm when I run CO2 through my Calcium Reactor. But the benefit of 450ppm Calcium and 10 dkh constantly without dosing far out weighs the "possible harm" of overdosing CO2.
I think a lot of times those "harms" are over exagerated by people who do not research what they are doing and go to it balls to the wall thinking more is better.
Could you direct me to some 'research' about what does/ have went wrong with ozone? Perferably something with respectable proof. Not just I bought this new toy and it melted everything... blah .... blah....blah.
Also, just wondering does it kill ich in a tank?
How do you .... uhm ...... measure or controll the ozone. I mean how do you know when enough is enough or not enough. Do you rely only on the ORP readout?
meaning that it depends on your personal tank and its demands. There wouldn't be a set amount.
Travis:
So how would I be able to run it through my skimmer just plumb it into the intake right?
So far I havn't found anything as far as "possible harms", well not anything as far as actual proof. There is always a possible harm. There is a possible harm when I run CO2 through my Calcium Reactor. But the benefit of 450ppm Calcium and 10 dkh constantly without dosing far out weighs the "possible harm" of overdosing CO2.
I think a lot of times those "harms" are over exagerated by people who do not research what they are doing and go to it balls to the wall thinking more is better.
Could you direct me to some 'research' about what does/ have went wrong with ozone? Perferably something with respectable proof. Not just I bought this new toy and it melted everything... blah .... blah....blah.
Also, just wondering does it kill ich in a tank?
How do you .... uhm ...... measure or controll the ozone. I mean how do you know when enough is enough or not enough. Do you rely only on the ORP readout?
Travis
10 and over club
Yes, ozone requirements will be different for every system.
Does your JG fitting on your skimmer unscrew so it can be removed? If so, I would just replace it with a 1/8" nipple. Otherwise, you can also tee the ozone into the air intake.
I also have yet to find "proof" that ozone is harmful. I have heard of tanks being wiped out by ozone but these were tanks running LARGE amounts of ozone. By large amounts, I mean the generators were capable of producing several grams per hour, unlike our hobbyist units that merely put out a couple hundred milligrams per hour. There are possible harmful byproducts from ozone reacting with water in our tanks. The one that comes to mind first is the reaction with bromide which creates chlorine. Running all ozonated water effluent through carbon should take care of anything like that though.
Ozone would kill ich, but only the ich that it comes into contact with. Therefore, it may be an effective way to keep ich from getting out of control but would not be an effective cure.
IMO and IME, let your tank tell you how much to use. Use the smallest amount necessary to achieve the results you want.
Ozone smell is from the skimmer air outlet not being filtered with carbon.
I think most people don't use reactors because they have skimmers, which work just as well with ozone. No need to buy another piece of equipment that way.
Does your JG fitting on your skimmer unscrew so it can be removed? If so, I would just replace it with a 1/8" nipple. Otherwise, you can also tee the ozone into the air intake.
I also have yet to find "proof" that ozone is harmful. I have heard of tanks being wiped out by ozone but these were tanks running LARGE amounts of ozone. By large amounts, I mean the generators were capable of producing several grams per hour, unlike our hobbyist units that merely put out a couple hundred milligrams per hour. There are possible harmful byproducts from ozone reacting with water in our tanks. The one that comes to mind first is the reaction with bromide which creates chlorine. Running all ozonated water effluent through carbon should take care of anything like that though.
Ozone would kill ich, but only the ich that it comes into contact with. Therefore, it may be an effective way to keep ich from getting out of control but would not be an effective cure.
IMO and IME, let your tank tell you how much to use. Use the smallest amount necessary to achieve the results you want.
Ozone smell is from the skimmer air outlet not being filtered with carbon.
I think most people don't use reactors because they have skimmers, which work just as well with ozone. No need to buy another piece of equipment that way.
Kelly
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I've been reading ALOT lately about the use of ozone and I'm gonna take the plunge and hook my 110bb SPS tank up with a RedSea unit. My question is: How do I get the ozone into my skimmer, since my EuroReef doesn't have a port to inject into???? What is the alternative?
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions?
samsfishnchips
Premium Member
Kelly said:
Hi kelly
the best way would be to put a T on the out of put the ER, and end hook to the ER, another to the ozone line, and the other free, the free one is important cause you don't want to restric air imput into the skimmer,
I bet you will like it
, only suggestion take it slow, so your corals don't bleach, take care,sam
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