Two New Buggers & an ID Confirm please, glabrous or graphurus?

[Gonodactylus]

I feel worse for those that are kept in large open containers.

Roy

 

[Bluemon]

why? do they get scared?

 

[Gonodactylus]

Almost all stomatopods live in a tight fitting burrow or cavity. They are very thigmotactic (like to touch walls). Being in the open is quite stressful for them. As long as the water qualify is good, small chambers are fine. There are exceptions. Animals such as P. ciliata travel in the open over long distances, but most gonodactylids seem "happiest" inside a small cavity.

 

[Bluemon]

yea the system was connected to a larger system.

i guess it was happy then

 

[MantisO_o]

Almost all stomatopods live in a tight fitting burrow or cavity. They are very thigmotactic (like to touch walls). Being in the open is quite stressful for them. As long as the water qualify is good, small chambers are fine. There are exceptions. Animals such as P. ciliata travel in the open over long distances, but most gonodactylids seem "happiest" inside a small cavity.

Interesting.

 

[MantisO_o]

P. ciliata are excellent animals at matching background. Most that I encounter in the field are green or green stripe, sandy colored, black, brown or cream mottle. Yellow and orange morphs in the Caribbean are rare if non-existent. They are occasionally seen in the Indo-Pacifc, particularly on colorful coral reef flats. Given that the yellow and orange morphs are more easily seen by human collectors walking reef flats, they show up in disproportionate numbers in shipments from Indonesia and the Philippines. Still, they are quite rare in most habitats where P. ciliata occur.

Roy

What would you suggest i could do to have it keep its nice Orange hue?

 

[Kharn]

Interesting.

I know rite, it makes you think hard about how best to size an aquarium for them knowing that most spend 90% of there lives within the burrow.

In terms of space saving.

 

[usatennisfan]

I know! Pseudosquilla ciliata never came to mind. Another view of it and i just notice i see no clubs. Interesting. Where on the glabrous i have, her's are clearly seen at the same angle as the P. ciliata.

Looking at the picture you can pretty easily see the checkerboard eyes. Funny that BZA didn't see the lack of clubs. Kinda makes me question the reliability of things over there but I think I am jumping the gun there.

 

[MantisO_o]

Looking at the picture you can pretty easily see the checkerboard eyes. Funny that BZA didn't see the lack of clubs. Kinda makes me question the reliability of things over there but I think I am jumping the gun there.

I figured when they saw the orange they just assumed it must be one or the other, glabrous or graphurus. They don't give detailed pictures of their stock, which in turns give consumers a hard time identifying what their buying.

 

[gnasher]

Almost all stomatopods live in a tight fitting burrow or cavity. They are very thigmotactic (like to touch walls). Being in the open is quite stressful for them. As long as the water qualify is good, small chambers are fine. There are exceptions. Animals such as P. ciliata travel in the open over long distances, but most gonodactylids seem "happiest" inside a small cavity.

Hmm, mine lives in a hollowed out rock with a hole on top. I figured she'd enjoy the extra room as long as it was secure. Do you think it's likely that she's filled the inside to suit her liking? Substrate is crushed coral with some rubble and plenty of hermit shells. It seems like things that I haven't seen in months pop out of that rock like a clown car sometimes.

 

[TundraGuy]

What I don’t like about the statement is that when people reed what you posted Doc they will assume it’s best to keep them in a small tank. Not realizing bigger is better given you provide them the ability to tuck themselves away into a burrow. I hope people don’t read this and think well I got this shot glass and some air line hose I can run to it for water flow from my bigger tank and let it just overflow back to a sump. What I don’t like about the statement is that when people reed what you posted Doc they will assume it’s best to keep them in a small tank. Not realizing bigger is better given you provide them the ability to tuck themselves away into a burrow. I hope people don’t read this and think well I got this shot glass and some air line hose I can run to it for water flow from my bigger tank and let it just overflow back to a sump.

 

[Gonodactylus]

TundraGuy,

I see nothing wrong with what I posted. We were talking about housing stomatopods in LFS enclosures and I specified that as long as the water quality was good, gonodactylids could live in close quarters. The only modification I would make to my statement is that it would be better if they had opaque walls and floor. I would assume that most aquarists would know that there is usually some correlation between aquarium size and water quality - or at least a buffering effect.

Example 1. I have a L. sulcata that has been in a 1 gal satellite tank for 10 years. As far as I know, it has never left its burrow in all that time. By most peoples standards, I think you would have to agree that it is doing well.

Example 2. I have a eurysquillid (new species) in a 2 gal aquarium connected to a Fluval 204. It has molted six times in four years and almost never leaves its pvc burrow. Aside from some color change, it is doing well.

Roy

 

[MantisO_o]

I have a eurysquillid (new species) in a 2 gal aquarium connected to a Fluval 204. It has molted six times in four years and almost never leaves its pvc burrow. Aside from some color change, it is doing well.

Roy

WOW, what would this look like? and have you found out as to why it molts so seldom?

 

[Bluemon]

does the new species have 2 spears and 2 clubs? gee i hope so

 

[Gonodactylus]

Seems to be a low energy, nocturnal sit and wait predator that rarely moves, let alone leave its cavity. Same lifestyle as Echinosquilla.

Roy

 

[Bluemon]

oh i have another question. what do mantises do in their burrows? sure they sleep and eat there.. but what else? itd be awfully boring

 

[usatennisfan]

Well if it is a male then they drink beer, watch football, and play video games. If it is female they... heck, you got me...

 

[Kharn]

Dr. Caldwells post further makes understanding the easy requirements for this easy to keep animals people freak out too much about what they need etc.