47G SPS...Revamp

[kaserpick]

I remember taking my second course in complex analysis; my professor was French. He wrote his dates in the day-month-year format. I thought, 'That's just crazy!'

After working with multiple people from different countries, I realized that we're the crazy ones.

Hope everything works out with AEFW's, Sahin!

 

[westreef]

When I was in college about 45 years ago we were told metric system was coming. I am still waiting.:headwally:

 

[this is me]

Hang in there Sahin. I'm sure you'll rid of them!

 

[Fishy 1]

Don't hate on me, hate google

Think smarter, not harder

Haha lol, good one Benar[emoji481]

 

[nova65ss]

What's up my friend checked in on the ATI PM thread and found this thread!

Congrats on the baby boy!

Tank is going to be sweet loving the redo!

 

[sahin]

What's up my friend checked in on the ATI PM thread and found this thread!

Congrats on the baby boy!

Tank is going to be sweet loving the redo!

Hey buddy. Nice to see you spending a bit of time on RC.

Thanks, Daniyal is doing great; and taking up loads of my time :lol:

I really like the tank redo...but battling AEFW's at the moment.

While I'm here I might as well do an update:

Battle with AEFW's:

I discovered one more acro with AEFW eggs. This was the day after I made my last post. Rather than deal with trying to grow a tiny frag, I threw the frag away; it was largely damaged by the FW's and with eggs around the base. I missed the eggs the day before, but vaguely remembered seeing some brown splodges and decided to recheck/inspect this particular coral again.

That was roughly 2 weeks ago. I've done a couple more dips and havent noticed any new AEFW's.

Since I already had AEFW's and had a QT tank setup, I decided to purchase a couple of new acros.

I was after a blue Millepora and something else random. Anyway, I bought a couple more from the LFS I suspected had AEFW's in their frag tank...and sure enough when I got the corals home and dipped the unknown SPS, about 8 FW's came off!

I have to say, previously when I discovered AEFW's I panicked and acted in haste, and lost my corals as a result.

This time, I am a lot more confident and relaxed about the whole issue. I know my tank has them. I know I am going to beat them. :deadhorse:

I am still dipping in Revive at double the strength. I havent lost a single coral; and I have a few deepwater/smooth skinned types.

I did blast my green Turaki too aggressively with the turkey baster and it lost some tissue; but is doing well otherwise. I have since dipped it and have been more careful with the turkey basting.

A very kind soul took the time to go out and buy Bayer for me and post it to the UK. Sean; A BIG THANK YOU. :beer:

Once I get the Bayer I will one dip week in Revive and following week with Bayer. I said at the outset, I plan not to lose any coral and although I threw one away, I did so because I felt it wasnt worth risking the other SPS in the QT tank; so fingers crossed, I wont lose any of my precious SPS.

Many of the SPS have browned out, but at least they are alive and I am not finding any new AEFW's.

I will continue to dip right until the end of February 2015.

 

[swk]

Hey buddy. Nice to see you spending a bit of time on RC.

Thanks, Daniyal is doing great; and taking up loads of my time :lol:

I really like the tank redo...but battling AEFW's at the moment.

While I'm here I might as well do an update:

Battle with AEFW's:

I discovered one more acro with AEFW eggs. This was the day after I made my last post. Rather than deal with trying to grow a tiny frag, I threw the frag away; it was largely damaged by the FW's and with eggs around the base. I missed the eggs the day before, but vaguely remembered seeing some brown splodges and decided to recheck/inspect this particular coral again.

That was roughly 2 weeks ago. I've done a couple more dips and havent noticed any new AEFW's.

Since I already had AEFW's and had a QT tank setup, I decided to purchase a couple of new acros.

I was after a blue Millepora and something else random. Anyway, I bought a couple more from the LFS I suspected had AEFW's in their frag tank...and sure enough when I got the corals home and dipped the unknown SPS, about 8 FW's came off!

I have to say, previously when I discovered AEFW's I panicked and acted in haste, and lost my corals as a result.

This time, I am a lot more confident and relaxed about the whole issue. I know my tank has them. I know I am going to beat them. :deadhorse:

I am still dipping in Revive at double the strength. I havent lost a single coral; and I have a few deepwater/smooth skinned types.

I did blast my green Turaki too aggressively with the turkey baster and it lost some tissue; but is doing well otherwise. I have since dipped it and have been more careful with the turkey basting.

A very kind soul took the time to go out and buy Bayer for me and post it to the UK. Sean; A BIG THANK YOU. :beer:

Once I get the Bayer I will one dip week in Revive and following week with Bayer. I said at the outset, I plan not to lose any coral and although I threw one away, I did so because I felt it wasnt worth risking the other SPS in the QT tank; so fingers crossed, I wont lose any of my precious SPS.

Many of the SPS have browned out, but at least they are alive and I am not finding any new AEFW's.

I will continue to dip right until the end of February 2015.

Hope it arrives soon for you sahin. Glad I was able to help out!

 

[biggles]

Good on you Sean, i don't know how you guys get by in the UK tbh. Talk about a serious lack of poisons being available, i have to tell you Sahin i could probably wipe out a city block with the stuff on the shelf under my kitchen sink and my garden shed........ let's just say the CDC would throw a big plastic bubble over me and the shed if they knew what stuff i found in my late fathers garden shed when i cleaned it out for mom recently....... don't worry, i watched my father using his 'potions' on all manner of things growing up and there wasn't too much that flew, dug or ate veggies that i didn't see roll over dead at one time or another in our backyard so you could consider me a poisons expert tbh. :reading:

How is your new son and the family btw mate, well i hope. I really glad you're taking such a positive approach to the whole pest thing rather than dwelling on things Sahin, keep buying treasures and treating them mate and before you know it you'll blow us all away with your SPS collection. :thumbsup:

 

[martinphillip03]

Way to go Sean!

Marty

A very kind soul took the time to go out and buy Bayer for me and post it to the UK. Sean; A BIG THANK YOU.

 

[cFloor]

Good luck wiping those guys out Sahin, I have no doubt you will succeed! Remember that there are different types of Bayer, so dosage amount per dip will depend on what one you receive.

 

[tmantaylor18]

Your plan is just to dip weekly without a separate quarantine tank?

 

[sahin]

Good luck wiping those guys out Sahin, I have no doubt you will succeed! Remember that there are different types of Bayer, so dosage amount per dip will depend on what one you receive.

Yeah, I've been reading up on Bayer and discovered there are at least 4 variations that reefers are buying. So I thought I'd make a thread asking for advice once I've received mine and able to produce a photo of it too.

Your plan is just to dip weekly without a separate quarantine tank?

I have a QT setup. Infected Acros are already in there. The non infected ones are still in display. Once ALL acros show no more bitemarks/no more AEFW's appear, I will transfer all corals to the QT and run the display without corals for 2 weeks. From my reading of AEFW, member Tektite mentioned that the FW's die after a week without food. - EDIT: I will have to double check on this.

I plan to dip for 12 weeks; which is roughly double the time most others dip for. Hopeing that will destroy them for good.

To be honest, I am not seeing any more AEFW's. Any eggs will obviously hatch produce young, but the sustained dipping will kill them off; thereby hopefully with the dips between Bayer and Revive prevent any future FW's from reaching adulthood and producing more eggs. With the life cycle cut off, all eggs should hatch out and FW's from those eggs will be killed off.

Having dealt with these many years ago, I feel a lot more confident because my ability to keep Acropora alive is much better than years ago, and I am a lot more patient. Coupled together with a 3 month dipping process I am fairly confident I can get rid of them and they are not the nightmare they were to me many years ago.

 

[swk]

This is the one you got sahin. As far as I know, this is the original formula. I have been using it at 5-10ml per cup of tank water for 10 minutes without issues.

 

[rovster]

Bayer definitely works and will knock the bugs off! 5-10mL/cup is the standard entry level dose, but I've gone as high as 20mL/cup.

Interesting enough, I was going to add a frag from a tank that had a history of AEFW that was supposedly treated, and on my first dip of 10mL/cup something questionable came off but I couldn't confirm, I did not want to risk it so I did a second dip at a much higher concentration and 3 worms came off! At that point I just chucked the frag in the garbage.

Point is, it works but its not fool proof. Multiple dips are needed to get the stragglers, and I would either do extended or higher concentrations for questionable pieces.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but I did 8 weeks of dips over a year ago and everything was fine for a year but I ended up getting them again. It probably took them a year to get established enough to be noticed. IMHO, a combination of dips tank treatment and tank transfer is the way to go. Not saying it can't be done otherwise. I also think a lot depends on how bad the infestation is. GL!

 

[afernandez]

so i guess we are in the same boat! :deadhorse1:

have u though about giving your DT an in tank treatment of flatworm exit? or something along those lines?

 

[sh8g8delik]

Quoted from Sahin "Things were going great in my tank and then I started to have issues with all the corals: the few LPS and Zoas I kept browned out and SPS started to STN. I believe the cause is the spraying of air freshener RIGHT over the tank by a relative (not done on purpose). At first I thought I got away with it, but over time corals started to show issues. I used GAC, carried out lots of water changes, double checked all parameters with 2-3 test kits etc etc...something was causing random STN on my corals."

Sorry about your old system:sad2: Something similar happened with my friends tank and a cleaning lady was using Fabulosa cleaner. Love what is happening so far and can't wait for some new images. Love me some Ebay!!!

So i followed you over from the ati light forum and red numerous pages of that thread and at one point wondered where you went since i havent heard any responses from you for a brief moment. And then i started reading the beginning of this thread and can see why you're so busy. I had a similar incident with chemicals/cleaning lady recently. I was in the process of slowing transferring stuff over to the new tank and came home while the maid was over and noticed the cleaning lady with gloves on her hand inside my fishtank picking something off the glass. I politely, asked her what she doing, and she said she thought there was a sticker of a starfish stuck on my glass so she got it out.:furious: So i had to school her on not touching what is not hers and do what she was paid to do.

Anyways i finally caught up to your thread and was going to congratulate you on how well the tank is coming along then....DOH! read about your AEFW problem. So instead of congratulating you, i'd like to cheer you on and support you on your battle against them nasty buggers. Love your attitude and state of mind right now and cant wait to use your SUCCESSFUL method one day when i will inevitably get these buggers. Thanks again for all your help over on the ATI hybrid thread! If just for good karma and your kind soul, the man upstairs should just shoot some lighting into the tank that will just kill the buggers and polish up your spseeeesss!

 

[Jim Z.]

I have not tried any of the Bayer dips, but when used according to published dosages, the results are encouraging. Also, yellow coris wrasse are amazing predators and they can be used to pick off stragglers that are on the live rock. One of the best buys that I made when my tank was under attack from AEFW and this was well before there were any other chemical treatments besides iodine dips.

Sahin--it looks like you are making progress and you should see the acros respond to the treatments...............Jim

 

[TreyK]

Any updates Sahin buddy?

 

[sahin]

I was kind of holding off posting in this thread...

I am finding no more AEFW's. Either they are completely eliminated or they are not able to grow to a large enough size for me to see; which means they are being killed off at a very early stage. I've found no more eggs either.

Corals are browned out though...the dipping stress and even a semi kalk disaster has caused all the acros to be browned out and poorly looking.

I've reduced light hours to only 3-4 hours daily and feeding amino acids...I dont care if they super brown out; the corals will colour up eventually; I'm concentrating on getting the corals looking healthy again; then I'll concentrate on getting them to colour up.

Its just depressing looking at the tank now...If the corals start to look healthy within the next 3 weeks, I'll start posting some pics up of my super brown corals. :lol:

 

[jackson6745]

You got the right idea. Colors come back fast don't sweat it. Getting the slime coat back and increased PE (which maybe fine already) is the first step. Just be careful with the short Photoperiod. If you see any base STN increase the PP, this has been my experience.
FWIW I tossed my coral rx and revive in the garbage. I only use bayer for now, much less stressful on the corals.