BEAUTIFUL Japanese BB SPS tanks. WOW
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RedEyeReef
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I have seen SPS both BB and DSB with great success. Personally I have always used sand and my SPS have as good of color as any others I have seen.
Given the fact that SPS favor low nutrient levels, if I was going to set up a SPS only and low fish bio load I would probably go BB. But since I also have LPS, Clams, 5 Tangs, 3 Large Angels, school of 5 Leopard Wrasses, and many other fish I use sand for more Bio load. JMO.
Given the fact that SPS favor low nutrient levels, if I was going to set up a SPS only and low fish bio load I would probably go BB. But since I also have LPS, Clams, 5 Tangs, 3 Large Angels, school of 5 Leopard Wrasses, and many other fish I use sand for more Bio load. JMO.
greenfroggiespawn
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CamBarr said:
imo, and ime i believe that in everything that we do we have to remind ourselves things need preventitive maintenance. especially in a closed system, i believe whether you go BB, board, shallow, dsb, you need to do cleanup accordingly. i feel w/ a dsb there are its benefits as well as negative effect, but again just read and decide. there is much success for both methods.
remember water changes being important and making sure everything is replenish is important. but then again that sparks a debate, since some people have not done a water change in the longest time. go with the look of ur tank, ur philosophy and just plunge, there is no EXACT right or wrong in this hobby. don't let any fads, bandwagon and craze sway what you want to achieve. just research and pratice good husbandry for tank..
invincible569
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greenfroggiespawn said:
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kruxy
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Looked at the pics 2 or 3 times, and I am not finding these offensive corals with colored halos on the rocks below them... maybe someone can point me towards what picture you are talking about?
I would bet that most foreigners would say that in general americans like everything to be overcomplicated, messy, and as unprogressive as they can get it while still getting by, I know I am acused of that kind of behavior myself
As those dive photos posted attest, sterility of the reef environment is actually something that you really need to see to appreciate. Until you see just how detritus and sediment free reef crests are, with suprisingly little localized diversity, it is hard to imagine from our own tanks that something would ever look like that.
I would bet that most foreigners would say that in general americans like everything to be overcomplicated, messy, and as unprogressive as they can get it while still getting by, I know I am acused of that kind of behavior myself
As those dive photos posted attest, sterility of the reef environment is actually something that you really need to see to appreciate. Until you see just how detritus and sediment free reef crests are, with suprisingly little localized diversity, it is hard to imagine from our own tanks that something would ever look like that.
matt the fiddler
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"BB is kind of a trend, just like DSB's were hot for a while, now a lot of people don't like them."
umm. they were around at least a decade or 2 in heavy use before the term "DSB" was even coined.
i would argue the true fruits of a DSB are finally coming out. [as age is one thing that does this to a DSB.. kinda like a pump that was made poorly and dies too soon- you won't know for 3 years..... BB a trend? HA!!!! DSB is auctually the real trend.. it is dying because it is a lesser way, and we are reverting back to what was before.... too bad so many people only read articles less than 1 years old lol
i researched and read up for several months before deciding to switch. [I am a stubborn german- takes a while to convince me of anythign different that what i know] if i was a trend follower i would have cashed up and gone bb in a week from seeing 5 pretty bb pics [and dsb laughed at]. I just believe BB is better, and SAFER in the long term for a SPS tank.
umm. they were around at least a decade or 2 in heavy use before the term "DSB" was even coined.
i would argue the true fruits of a DSB are finally coming out. [as age is one thing that does this to a DSB.. kinda like a pump that was made poorly and dies too soon- you won't know for 3 years..... BB a trend? HA!!!! DSB is auctually the real trend.. it is dying because it is a lesser way, and we are reverting back to what was before.... too bad so many people only read articles less than 1 years old lol
i researched and read up for several months before deciding to switch. [I am a stubborn german- takes a while to convince me of anythign different that what i know
] if i was a trend follower i would have cashed up and gone bb in a week from seeing 5 pretty bb pics [and dsb laughed at]. I just believe BB is better, and SAFER in the long term for a SPS tank.
matt the fiddler
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i have black starboard to kinda ... hide the bottom... and create contrast.. i agree, sand can look really nice..
the look of BB is an acquried taste.. but one worth having IMO...
i am with bomber though.. i am too stupid to run a deep sand bed- there must be some hidden secret!!!!! please educate me
[can you tell i am a bit sarcastic tonight!]
the look of BB is an acquried taste.. but one worth having IMO...
i am with bomber though.. i am too stupid to run a deep sand bed- there must be some hidden secret!!!!! please educate me
[can you tell i am a bit sarcastic tonight!]
matt the fiddler
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wait till i post my pics with black BB just wait
sonofgaladriel
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It appears that some of these tanks have corals that have actually grown in them, perhaps for many years. But, the majority of them look as if the owner just went diving, ripped out a bunch of mature specimens, brought them back, and set them in the tank to immitate a reef. I don't see alot or any encrustation of many of these corals that are set on the bottom glass, or much on the rocks for that matter, but maybe I need to look more closely.
Is there any way of knowing if these tanks look this way for the long haul, or as someone already hinted at, are they more like a nice bouquet of 'fresh cut flowers' that are thrown out when they die and replaced with more fresh ones? Are their any photos showing these same tanks one, two, there years ago? How about pictures of these same tanks in a few weeks or months?
I'd feel better about these tanks if I knew they were actually containing thriving corals, and not just glass display cases, filled with corals raped from the ocean each week while they look pretty and then disgarded when they bleach out or turn brown.
I mean no offense to anyone for sure, I'd just like to know for sure. I really hope they are successful long term reefs and I will be very impressed.
Is there any way of knowing if these tanks look this way for the long haul, or as someone already hinted at, are they more like a nice bouquet of 'fresh cut flowers' that are thrown out when they die and replaced with more fresh ones? Are their any photos showing these same tanks one, two, there years ago? How about pictures of these same tanks in a few weeks or months?
I'd feel better about these tanks if I knew they were actually containing thriving corals, and not just glass display cases, filled with corals raped from the ocean each week while they look pretty and then disgarded when they bleach out or turn brown.
I mean no offense to anyone for sure, I'd just like to know for sure. I really hope they are successful long term reefs and I will be very impressed.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Tick Tock goes the hands of a clock...
Tick Tock goes the hands of a clock...
Flip a coin and choose a method.
Heads = DSB/SSB
Tails = BB
It really does not matter which method is used, but I will say, after the 3 year mark, your reefkeeping skills will need to be legendary.
Coraline algae and/or GSP make great throw rugs for a display.
Tick Tock goes the hands of a clock...
Flip a coin and choose a method.
Heads = DSB/SSB
Tails = BB
It really does not matter which method is used, but I will say, after the 3 year mark, your reefkeeping skills will need to be legendary.
Coraline algae and/or GSP make great throw rugs for a display.
sonofgaladriel
Shiny!
I understand that they don't like the coraline algae look, but how do they keep it from growing on the rocks? In some of these tanks, the rock is almost pure white without a spec of coraline. How does one prevent coraline growth on the rocks while encouraging this kind of SPS growth?
bluereefs
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Coralline are algae,low nutrients will prevent all algae to grow including coralline.
Japanese also keep kh close to normal NSW value what also prevent coralline to grow.Low nutrients with low kh imploy zeovit systems and coralline algae dont grow very well in that aquariums too.
Japanese also put more atention to glass cleaning what they do regulary with blade scraper so any trace of coralline on glass panells are removed dayly or weekly.
Finally powerfull lights will prevent coralline algae growth,they also change hqi bulbs every 6-8 months ,one of the signals what they use as a sign that bulbs are old is formations of coralline algae.
Japanese also keep kh close to normal NSW value what also prevent coralline to grow.Low nutrients with low kh imploy zeovit systems and coralline algae dont grow very well in that aquariums too.
Japanese also put more atention to glass cleaning what they do regulary with blade scraper so any trace of coralline on glass panells are removed dayly or weekly.
Finally powerfull lights will prevent coralline algae growth,they also change hqi bulbs every 6-8 months ,one of the signals what they use as a sign that bulbs are old is formations of coralline algae.
majesticangelfish
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bluereefs said:
thx :thumbsup:
