Daniel Reef
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I have to agree. The tail looks awesome.
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Big E
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That fish looks deformed to me.............it was more of a turn off than the price.
Daniel Reef
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Here is an C. argi for comparison:
And a C. resplendens:
The mouth in the hybrid looks somewhat consistent:
And a C. resplendens:
The mouth in the hybrid looks somewhat consistent:
velvetelvis
Active member
I honestly don't understand the comments about the fish looking "mutated" or "deformed". If you think the price is too steep, fine--much as I'd love one of these little guys, I can't afford to pay four months' rent for a fish either--but if you compare the Resplendent cherubfish to the parent species in the photos that Daniel posted, they're identical in conformation. Sour grapes? 
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please explain...thank you...:beachbum:
nonstopfishies
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Deformed compared to what? This fish has never existed before, did you stop to think that maybe that is how they will look when these 2 fish breed?
I also think it looks exactly like a cross between the two with no deformities.
copps
Premium Member
So you are turned off by the fish and more turned off by the price... that is fine but you at least should elaborate on your position.
Keep in mind Frank is not setting the price... the market is. Also, if you put the years of research in that Frank did, and the months of around the clock work raising fry, would you price them lower than what the market will bear? Why would you not want as much money to go to operations like RCT as possible?
velvetelvis
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I'm not saying this is the case with this particular poster, so I don't want to sound like I'm singling him/her out. But generally speaking, I run into a lot of people in the hobby who fuss about paying more for captive-bred fish--even, say, $20 more. The amount of research, work, and overhead invested in these fish (and the benefits to wild fish populations and their environments) don't seem to matter to them.
Which is aggravating, because IMO this is not a hobby for people who have to watch every single penny. Hell, you'll spend a lot more than that extra $20 or so in RO/DI topoff water, salt water, buffer, food, etc in the course of a few months, so the difference is negligible in the long run. You're helping to support people doing hard, necessary, and probably often thankless work. More than worth it, I say.
Blueline12
Member
Agreed. The cost of just equipment alone, electricity, food, etc is a huge expense. What he receives back in the sale of these fish is probably peanuts compared to what is spent in time, research, painstaking round the clock feelings let alone the costs noted above.
The effort put into this is tremendous and doubt there is any profit to be made by Frank unless it continues long term.
The science behind this is amazing and the fact that there is one person in the world doing this shows you the extent of the effort. But for Frank this hobby and the world would be a lesser place.
FYI, I do not know Frank and personally not interested in this fish but you have to commend his devotion and effort.
Daniel Reef
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Copps: I think Big E said that he is more turned off by the alleged deformity than he is turned off by the price.
Big E: I know people who spend $1000 to $2000 on a dog. There are a lot of people I know who own multiple dogs at that price. When you think about that, the breeder dog may have 4-8 pups or more so the breeder is making anywhere from $4000 to $16,000 per litter.
I don't know Frank's particular expenses or his business since I am not in the business like other posters here. But I would imagine that he is not recouping his entire costs. I applaud his efforts to create captive bred fish (and hybrids at that). After seeing the posts about city councils in Hawaii trying to shut down the collection of wild fish, we should welcome and support Frank's work. The alternative may be that we may not have access to these fish unless they are captive bred. We all understand how the market works. The prices are initial high because of the investment and research costs. People who can afford it basically pay for that research so we all can benefit. The prices will eventually come down so ultimately the rest of us can afford these fish. I look forward to that day. In the meantime, I can enjoy pictures of these beautiful fish.
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velvetelvis
Active member
Well said.
If you're a clownfish fan, you may remember that captive-bred latezonatus clownfish first became available a few years ago. This was a big deal, because wild-caught "latz" tend to be delicate and difficult to keep. These healthy but misbarred clownfish (which the first CB specimens were, until Karen Brittain at the Waikiki Aquarium began offering perfect, fully barred latz last year) sold for about $350 apiece at first. Now you can get Karen's latz, which look identical to their wild cousins, for about $100--that's a price reduction of more than two-thirds.
Point being, as Daniel said, the price eventually will come down...right now, aquarists who buy Frank's fish are supporting the work of a pioneer. It's only because some people are willing and able to pay for these fish (which, when you consider what's gone into them, are nearly priceless) that this work is possible.
Meanwhile, like Daniel said, the rest of us can sit back and drool over the eye candy. I'm a big supporter of aquaculture anyway, so for me it's like Christmas just waiting to see what they come out with next. I'm just hoping some well-heeled member of RC buys one of these fish, so we can watch him/her grow up. :spin3:
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Stacy, Good looking little guy 
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.Looks alot like my fisheri/resplenda I got from Frank a few years back.
velvetelvis
Active member
The theory I've read most is that it's something in the environment the juveniles are raised in, or something missing in their diet, that causes them to have incomplete stripes.
CeeGee
New member
thanks for the info. I don't know much about breeding fish but I think what Frank does is terrific. I hope that what he is doing becomes as common as breeding clownfish. I can go to nearly any store and pick up a tank bred clown and I think that is dynamite!
I was going to purchase one of his interruptus angels and I wish I would have but at the same time I am glad I didn't. I hope that they are all still alive and well.
I was going to purchase one of his interruptus angels and I wish I would have but at the same time I am glad I didn't. I hope that they are all still alive and well.
Keeping my fingers crossed!!!
roktsintst
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A RCT Hybrid!!!
