Deeznutz Hd 120 Shallow rimless (Pics)

[deeznutz1]

I have recently done a similar project. Looking at your photos I am not seeing anything glaringly bad - looks like you've done a very decent job.

Thanks man, it is decent, just not what I was expecting from a premium brand.
I got a second bag and I may or may not redo it. I have a 1/4 to 3/8 variance in the floor in a few places, that I might just make up with thin set(3/4) max tolerance for thin set). I'm just debating if I want to take the chance or not.

I just used that Servoplan for the first time, consider covering the entire floor with another bag if you are not happy with it (which I suspect is the case).

One bag does about an 1/8 of an inch over 100 sq. ft or so I think.

Also, make sure you use the exact amount of water recommended, it should pour on like water, then trowel for consistency and leave it alone to do its thing.

All those Keisel products are outstanding to work with! And priced accordingly of course.

Thanks man, I've always had good results with their products and they are usually easy to use and mix. I followed the directions and added the max amount of water. Not sure what happened, maybe too long of a slate time???

I spoke to my supplier and told me that I can mix up to 5 litter max. So I might got that route. I'd rather tile on a flat even surface then fight with trying to level tiles as I go. I'm not a tiler by any means

Can you describe your technique? How long from start to pouring did it take you. It took me about 12-14mins from mixing to pouring to final trowel.

I have the floor re-primed, going shopping for some new sunglasses today.
I'll have my decision when I get back.

-dan

 

[Idefixes]

Thanks man, it is decent, just not what I was expecting from a premium brand.
I got a second bag and I may or may not redo it. I have a 1/4 to 3/8 variance in the floor in a few places, that I might just make up with thin set(3/4) max tolerance for thin set). I'm just debating if I want to take the chance or not.



Thanks man, I've always had good results with their products and they are usually easy to use and mix. I followed the directions and added the max amount of water. Not sure what happened, maybe too long of a slate time???

I spoke to my supplier and told me that I can mix up to 5 litter max. So I might got that route. I'd rather tile on a flat even surface then fight with trying to level tiles as I go. I'm not a tiler by any means

Can you describe your technique? How long from start to pouring did it take you. It took me about 12-14mins from mixing to pouring to final trowel.

I have the floor re-primed, going shopping for some new sunglasses today.
I'll have my decision when I get back.

-dan

For tiling what you do is more than luxury because you will have to deeling with tile glue for surface flatness. I have 5 tilers in my compagny and 10 guys are specialized in PVC floor laying. Until big issue in floor flatness tiler never use that flatning cement instead of the 10 other : We nerver glue PVC floor before flatning floor with this product. We commonly use 200 à 400 25kg bags per month those flatning cement.

Marc

 

[Allmost]

glad my explanation made sense and thanks

 

[deeznutz1]

For tiling what you do is more than luxury because you will have to deeling with tile glue for surface flatness. I have 5 tilers in my compagny and 10 guys are specialized in PVC floor laying. Until big issue in floor flatness tiler never use that flatning cement instead of the 10 other : We nerver glue PVC floor before flatning floor with this product. We commonly use 200 à 400 25kg bags per month those flatning cement.

Marc

So you're saying I'm retarded and messed up right? lol. Also I should not continue until the floor is flat, right? I agree, I'll be doing it tonight. I hope I get it right this time around. At $40 a bag, it's almost costing more then my tiles :facepalm:

Thanks for the response Marc.

glad my explanation made sense and thanks

Although I had to read it twice and reference with your photos, yes it made sense, lol.

-dan

 

[trueblackpercula]

I have laid down tile many times and it looks like you did a good job. But with an area of that size I would do the entire floor with a mortar or put down wonder board and then tiles over it. This will give your tiles a good foundation.
Hope this helps

 

[Idefixes]

So you're saying I'm retarded and messed up right? lol. Also I should not continue until the floor is flat, right? I agree, I'll be doing it tonight. I hope I get it right this time around. At $40 a bag, it's almost costing more then my tiles :facepalm:

Thanks for the response Marc.




Although I had to read it twice and reference with your photos, yes it made sense, lol.

-dan

No i just say (sorry my poor english) that for tiling you don't need that flatening level as around 7-8mm glue will added (trough special tool with 8-10mm teeth

) and even with flat floor through tiling you can have non flat surface after work if you don't pay enough attention during tiling process => need regular level checking. For me you don't need a second flatening cement pass. Apply primer afet good cleaning and go for tiling.

Marc

 

[250G]

I would grab another bag of it and cover the entire floor.

Pour the contents over about 1/3 to 1/2 the floor then pull the product towards you so you can exit the room. Use a trowel, or a rake. I recall only allowing a slake time of about 2-3 minutes (whatever is on the bag worked perfect) then pouring the entire contents onto the floor.

Isolate the remainder of the floor with your red tape first, including the threshold at the door. The product is pretty fantastic, so give another bag a try.

While you can level to 3/4" with Servoflex, go the self levelling route.

ALSO - if you care putting that ceramic tile on concrete in a basement you better install a heated floor!!!!!! CT on concrete is crazy cold on the feet. You are looking at about $500 to heat that floor, including the programmable GFI if you are doing it yourself. Minimal considering how much time you will spend back there in the fall/winter months. It just adds another day to the project. It would/should have its own dedicated circuit.

Of course - you need to put self leveling over the wires/pad before you lay the tile. Installation is pretty darn easy. I would never lay tile over concrete again without heating it. dave

Thanks man, it is decent, just not what I was expecting from a premium brand.
I got a second bag and I may or may not redo it. I have a 1/4 to 3/8 variance in the floor in a few places, that I might just make up with thin set(3/4) max tolerance for thin set). I'm just debating if I want to take the chance or not.



Thanks man, I've always had good results with their products and they are usually easy to use and mix. I followed the directions and added the max amount of water. Not sure what happened, maybe too long of a slate time???

I spoke to my supplier and told me that I can mix up to 5 litter max. So I might got that route. I'd rather tile on a flat even surface then fight with trying to level tiles as I go. I'm not a tiler by any means

Can you describe your technique? How long from start to pouring did it take you. It took me about 12-14mins from mixing to pouring to final trowel.

I have the floor re-primed, going shopping for some new sunglasses today.
I'll have my decision when I get back.

-dan

 

[deeznutz1]

No i just say (sorry my poor english) that for tiling you don't need that flatening level as around 7-8mm glue will added (trough special tool with 8-10mm teeth

) and even with flat floor through tiling you can have non flat surface after work if you don't pay enough attention during tiling process => need regular level checking. For me you don't need a second flatening cement pass. Apply primer afet good cleaning and go for tiling.

Marc

Thank you for your advice Marc, your english is very good. Its actually better then some people where it's there first language lol.
I realize that I could probably go without a second bag/pass of the floor levelling compound. But with my inexperience in tiling, I need all the help I can get.:hmm5:
Also the 8-10 trowel notch is good enough for 18x18 tile right?

thanks

I would grab another bag of it and cover the entire floor.

Pour the contents over about 1/3 to 1/2 the floor then pull the product towards you so you can exit the room. Use a trowel, or a rake. I recall only allowing a slake time of about 2-3 minutes (whatever is on the bag worked perfect) then pouring the entire contents onto the floor.

Isolate the remainder of the floor with your red tape first, including the threshold at the door. The product is pretty fantastic, so give another bag a try.

While you can level to 3/4" with Servoflex, go the self levelling route.

ALSO - if you care putting that ceramic tile on concrete in a basement you better install a heated floor!!!!!! CT on concrete is crazy cold on the feet. You are looking at about $500 to heat that floor, including the programmable GFI if you are doing it yourself. Minimal considering how much time you will spend back there in the fall/winter months. It just adds another day to the project. It would/should have its own dedicated circuit.

Of course - you need to put self leveling over the wires/pad before you lay the tile. Installation is pretty darn easy. I would never lay tile over concrete again without heating it. dave

Thanks Dave for clarifying your process. I may have let it slate a tad longer then it's support to be. I mean I got pics of the product lol after mixing.

I've already purchased a second bag and I have high hopes now.

As for the heated floor. OMG my wife would kill me. I wear shoes in my fish rooms anyways. The mess I tend to make in there does not lend well to stocking feet. For a fish room, I've gone over and above and I heater floor would most likely trigger a divorce.

As for tiling, should I use a wet saw or the score and snap method?

 

[cugly]

It looks like a lot of work D my neck is hurting already just hearing all what needs to be done lol..sounds like you're heading in the right direction. .can't wait to see it done

 

[Usernam Invalid]

If u have a lot of cuts to make the wet saw is def the way to go. If only have a few than score n snap will work but if you don't have a lot of experience doing it be prepared to have a few broken tiles.

 

[deeznutz1]

It looks like a lot of work D my neck is hurting already just hearing all what needs to be done lol..sounds like you're heading in the right direction. .can't wait to see it done

Thanks man, it is quite a bit of work, but someone has to do it lol Plus it wouldn't be a build threads if there was no building involved

If u have a lot of cuts to make the wet saw is def the way to go. If only have a few than score n snap will work but if you don't have a lot of experience doing it be prepared to have a few broken tiles.

Thanks for the advice. I have access to both. Since it's a square room, the cuts will be straight.

 

[250G]

considering how much you are going to spend on salt and liverock to fill that thing - a heated floor is peanuts! then again, shoes will work in the fishroom

you can make do with a VERY inexpensive wet saw from HD or any other place for such a small project. $80-$100 max. The score and snap is not that usefull unless you are using really thin tile. for the extra $25 get the cheap wet saw.

Thank you for your advice Marc, your english is very good. Its actually better then some people where it's there first language lol.
I realize that I could probably go without a second bag/pass of the floor levelling compound. But with my inexperience in tiling, I need all the help I can get.:hmm5:
Also the 8-10 trowel notch is good enough for 18x18 tile right?

thanks



Thanks Dave for clarifying your process. I may have let it slate a tad longer then it's support to be. I mean I got pics of the product lol after mixing.

I've already purchased a second bag and I have high hopes now.

As for the heated floor. OMG my wife would kill me. I wear shoes in my fish rooms anyways. The mess I tend to make in there does not lend well to stocking feet. For a fish room, I've gone over and above and I heater floor would most likely trigger a divorce.

As for tiling, should I use a wet saw or the score and snap method?

 

[Dbondaruk]

Really nice build man. Looks great.

 

[deeznutz1]

considering how much you are going to spend on salt and liverock to fill that thing - a heated floor is peanuts! then again, shoes will work in the fishroom

you can make do with a VERY inexpensive wet saw from HD or any other place for such a small project. $80-$100 max. The score and snap is not that usefull unless you are using really thin tile. for the extra $25 get the cheap wet saw.

Thanks man, I've got both awaiting me.

Really nice build man. Looks great.

Thank you!

 

[deeznutz1]

Small Update

Hey y'all, I have the day off tomorrow, so I've decided to work on the fish room again this evening.

First off, I've realized that I don't work well in the dark :sad2: So I ran my power feed to the room. Wired up the switch, light and bingo! Well not at first. The light didn't work, I was like ***???:sad1: Iwas going back and forth and I couldn't figure it out at first and then :idea: decided to check the bulbs. POor connections for the Florescence tubes. Now let there be light!

I just finished re-level the floor, this time it worked like a charm. Not sure what happened the first time. But after using it the second time, I'm very pleased with the product.

Tomorrow morning I'll start the tiling. Sure hope it's going to look good. God knows I've put in the effort :lmao: (sorry no heated floor Dave lol)

Oh yeah, it wouldn't be the same without pics! iPhone pics though, I was too lazy to grab the DSLR.

 

[dtum]

Nice progress!

 

[deeznutz1]

Thanks dtum, there has been even more progress :bounce1:

Although I'm extremely happy with the results, I'm dissatisfied that I spent nearly 4-1/2 laying this tile. It's like 4 hours longer then I wanted to spend lol.
Not to mention the back pain and sore knees :angryfire:

I'm going to let it set and cure overnight and hopefully I can find some time to grout it tomorrow night.

Again, sorry for iPhone pics.

So here's my to do list.

Grout tile
Prime and Paint walls
Finish all electrical plugs
Build stands and work benches
Plumb tank
Purchase and drill sump.
Aqua scape
and finally add water

So the list of things to do aint really that bad. I should be getting her wet in the next few weeks.

Stay tuned ladies and gents :wave:

 

[chrismhaase]

Well you have the weekend. Let's see some progress. Jk. Great start and I look forward to the build.

 

[deeznutz1]

Well you have the weekend. Let's see some progress. Jk. Great start and I look forward to the build.

Thanks man, I got stuff done! No much though but I can now move forward with the build. I've got the hard stuff out of the way. Funny thing is, it's gone from a studding a room, to insulating it, to finishing the floor. OMG!

You gots to be dedicated in this hobby. :spin2:

 

[deeznutz1]

It's done!


So my floor is done! My wife was nice enough to clean up all of my grouting so we can enjoy it. I'm going to order my plumbing parts tonight, but I can't seem to find spa flex in 1". Well let me re-phrase that. I can't seem to find it for a decent price. Anyone know where I can find some?

Here are some pics of the finished floor. I'm excited!

From another angle and please excuse the mess

Hopefully I can prime and paint the room this weekend and finish the electrical outlets