H. Magnifica Ritteri Care

[josepha]

Hi All H Mag/Ritteri owners,
I have my first Ritteri after 20 years of reefing. It has looked great most the time, but it has also deflated and had it's mouth open almost every day for an hour or so then seem to go back to normal. Should I be concerned? Should it not ever deflate, or at least not be deflating daily? My parameters have been great, no nitrate, phosphate was up to .05ppm but now is back to zero, calc/alk all good. It seemed to get too much white light, so I turned down the LEDs (photon 32), and it seemed to do better, but still deflates daily, not as drastically. The temp ranges between 77 and 78.9, is that too much fluctuation in a day? Could the increase in phosphate have been too much of a change? Should I treat with Cipro, or would that cause stress? Do I just need to make sure the fluctuation of temp, etc. is more stable? As you can see, for someone who has 20years experience and have read quite a bit about these, I feel like I am back to the clueless beginning here.:uhoh3: Any advice from Africa based Ritteri/H. Magnifica owners is very welcome. Thanks - Joe A

 

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[CoralsAddiction]

When did you acquire the anemone?

 

[D-Nak]

If you can provide photos, that'll help us assess the health of the nem. If it appears to be normal deflation (mine typically deflate to about 70% of their normal size at night) then I wouldn't be too concerned. If it looks like deflation due to an infection, then you'll need to remove it and place it in a treatment tank right away.

 

[Blue spot]

Hi Joseph. Their is a really good thread on here about how to treat and diagnose your nem. It saved mine. I'm not sure how to do a link but if you go into the nem section and look at the second from top by Orion , it's really good advice.

 

[josepha]

I acquired it 3 weeks ago. How does everyone obtain Cipro? Isn't it a prescription required?

 

[Pericyte]

You can get it on eBay, I believe I got Thomas labs. Two things:

1. Post a picture, a completely deflated mag looks different than a partially deflated anemone.

2. Does the mouth hang open? If so, do you see something that looks like torn muscle or decaying inside?

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I acquired it 3 weeks ago. How does everyone obtain Cipro? Isn't it a prescription required?

Ok, so this is recent a acquisition and bacterial infection is likely the case. eBay and amazon would be a good place to get Cipro and start treatment. It's best to just buy it today and wait for it to arrive for current and future needs. Feel free to post questions regarding treatment as you deal with the issue but the basics are as follows:
250 mls of cipro per 10 gallons every day for 7 days (I've done 5 day treatments but I do not advocate that approach)
100% daily water changes preferably at night when you dose the medication.
Provide adequate light for the anemone while in QT.
No Filtration is required; just a nano powerhead and heater

 

[nemguy]

Like said before pics help to see if we're dealing with an infection but mags are weird and deflate on a regular basis when adjusting to a new tank and then it will eventually stop and they will sometimes just deflate at night or just to poop


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[josepha]

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OK, So I woke up this morning and was in a panic. This is with no light just flash, I will note that the temp was 78.6:



Then less than an hour later mouth was closed, puffed up and seemed normal, fans kicked on and lights on, temp 77.4:



It has been this way for 3 hours now. Sorry for poor phone pics. Is the temp swinging too much? I am getting the Cipro just in case, don't want to stress it with a treatment if not needed, but will have it ready.

 

[Blue spot]

Hi Joseph, I'm not an expert but this is what happened to my nem aswell. Inflate deflate , but the gaping mouth is a bad sign , I know this much. I would definitely recommend the Cipro, a year later and my news still going strong.

 

[OrionN]

It the anemone deflated more than once, I would treat him with Cipro as per the sticky thread on top of this forum. Good luck with him.

 

[josepha]

Ok so I ordered the Cipro, will be here in a few days. For those who have treated 7 days, is it back to the display after? Should it be good to go for as long as my parameters stay stable?

 

[OrionN]

You need to see if somebody or LFS have some. A few days, it is likely going to be too late. The sooner treatment start for these animals, the better the out come.

 

[D-Nak]

Ok so I ordered the Cipro, will be here in a few days. For those who have treated 7 days, is it back to the display after? Should it be good to go for as long as my parameters stay stable?

I typically keep mine in QT for another week after I stop Cipro treatment, just so that I can observe it. No need to do daily water changes, though partial water changes are nice. Just keep an eye on the ammonia badge.

 

[OrionN]

Unhealthy Magnifica looks good sometime, then they deflates repeatedly. With each deflation, the anemone looks less well when inflated. This is the downhill spiral that end in death of the anemone unless we intervene and treat them with antibiotic. The sooner we treat, the better the outcome.

 

[D-Nak]

Unhealthy Magnifica looks good sometime, then they deflates repeatedly. With each deflation, the anemone looks less well when inflated. This is the downhill spiral that end in death of the anemone unless we intervene and treat them with antibiotic. The sooner we treat, the better the outcome.

I can also add that when it comes to H. magnifica, they hold up extremely well to the antibiotic treatment, so it's better to treat them ASAP rather than waiting for the symptoms to get worse.

 

[clownaround2]

I have 5 huge Mag nems (started with one 16 years ago, that keeps splitting) and most nights they deflate and close up. Do your power heads turn off at night? Her open mouth indicates, that there's not enough flow to bring oxygen her way. Does she has an infection? Hard to tell from the pic.

 

[Blue spot]

Hi Joseph. How's the nem doing. I've not abandoned you but I noticed Orion is helping. Orion saved my nem so though you're sorted now. I also had the same problem getting Cipro. After trying to pretend I had explosive diarrhea at all my local chemists with no luck, I found a vet for rare and exotic animals to prescribe some (my dog vet couldn't help) then I ordered some back up on line and have some in my fish cupboard now.

 

[ca1ore]

Magnifica will shrink in size at night, but should not present limp, flaccid tentacles - that's bad. The late-afternoon deflate-inflate cycles are a bad sign that will gradually get worse until you are left with a rotting pile of goo.