Jebao Cross Flow Pump
- Thread starter shifty51008
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Funny how the article says the Jebao will have crap build quality when the original Gyre is crappy to begin with. Rotors that break just by looking at them wrong and the other swarm of issues they had when they first came out. I spent $300 on an XF150 only to have all the rotors destroyed 6 months later because they are made of saliva and now I have to shell out an extra $30 for these so-called "heavy duty" rotors which should have been included in the first place.
Just by doing simple testing Maxspect could have seen that the rotors and mounts were crap to begin with but they still released to market the thing. Makes me wonder how much actual R&D went into the product.
Just by doing simple testing Maxspect could have seen that the rotors and mounts were crap to begin with but they still released to market the thing. Makes me wonder how much actual R&D went into the product.
kinnadian
New member
That "article" is amazing, so much bias towards maxspect. They are supposed to be a neutral source of legitimate information and instead we get an opinion blog piece just bashing Jebao.
The author is bashing Jebao for bring a Chinese company, clearly he's done zilch research for his "article" as Maxspect is manufactured in China too. And nevermind the millions of reputable companies that manufacture their products in China.
There's no point getting into the reliability of jebao products as that has been done to death, but the author has the audacity to suggest that the Jebao gyre pump will have WORSE reliability than the Maxspect gyre? He's clearly been living under a rock for the last year or blindly ignorant in his negativity.
Reef Builders should pull this "article" or rebrand it as an opinion piece.
The author is bashing Jebao for bring a Chinese company, clearly he's done zilch research for his "article" as Maxspect is manufactured in China too. And nevermind the millions of reputable companies that manufacture their products in China.
There's no point getting into the reliability of jebao products as that has been done to death, but the author has the audacity to suggest that the Jebao gyre pump will have WORSE reliability than the Maxspect gyre? He's clearly been living under a rock for the last year or blindly ignorant in his negativity.
Reef Builders should pull this "article" or rebrand it as an opinion piece.
jason2459
Well-known member
All his articles are opinion pieces.
SkullV
They Got My Number
It looks like he edited his original article on it as well. It was informational before and now has HEAVY bias towards CoralVue. I wonder what CoralVue did/said for Jake to get that piece written.......
Joe from JBwave should have one shortly for testing. Can't wait to see what he finds!
Joe from JBwave should have one shortly for testing. Can't wait to see what he finds!
seamonster124
New member
Reef builders is just protecting it's advertisers.
5 points to jebao for never paying any website to manipulate hobbyists.
Maxspects has one option and that is to price more competitively if they wish to survive.
Moving water within a tank should not cost more than a Google Chromebook.
You wanna know why they cant protect their patent? Cuz they stole it too!
cross-flow impeller has been around for 200 years
http://www.vigorblower.com/Cross flow impeller.html
5 points to jebao for never paying any website to manipulate hobbyists.
Maxspects has one option and that is to price more competitively if they wish to survive.
Moving water within a tank should not cost more than a Google Chromebook.
You wanna know why they cant protect their patent? Cuz they stole it too!
cross-flow impeller has been around for 200 years
http://www.vigorblower.com/Cross flow impeller.html
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shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
I really do hope maxspec is able to stop jebao or what ever name they are useing. If not it is just gonna hurt us reefers, yes you say it wont because your getting a product at a cheaper price and you have options. But if they keep copying then other companies wont even try to make something new to bring to the hobby.
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
Their design is differnt still than others, if they copied someone they would never have got their patent in the first place.
How is it a copy? This type of impeller has existed for decades. All Maxspect did was take an already existing thing and apply it to an aquarium. A propeller connected to a motor? That's been around for decades on these things called boats. Just because technology got better that one could miniaturize it doesn't mean anything new was invented. And it's not like these companies actually invented the way to miniaturize it in the first place.
The only company in our hobby that has an actual new technology is ecotech. Removing the motor from being directly connected to the propeller is something that is actually innovative.
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
Your gonna tell me that looking at the gyre and jebo pics side by side isnt a copy? They look identical even more of a copy than the wp pumps and tunze. They got their patents because it was new design, yes the impeller has been around for a long time but that dont mean squat. Lots of companies take something that was designed for something and change it around to be used for something else, nothing wrong with that because they still had to do research and development to make it work for their purpose.
So your saying a blender is a blant copy of a drill just because they both spin an attachment?
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
And as for ecotech haveing new technology that again is a joke, magnetic stirrers have been around long before ecotech so they didnt even come up with something new.
Ron Reefman
Active member
shifty, if you don't like Jebao and the products they produce, you don't have to buy them. In fact you don't even have to post in a thread about then they will become available. You don't like them, we got it. You really don't have to say any more.
Jake Adams... I've heard him speak twice and I didn't care for his 'attitude' or his overbearing love of the high price manufacturers and dislike of anything inexpensive.
Jake Adams... I've heard him speak twice and I didn't care for his 'attitude' or his overbearing love of the high price manufacturers and dislike of anything inexpensive.
Having a cheap, not so reliable cross flow pump may actually be good for Maxspect.
Not sure you need such a pump? Buy the cheap one and take it for a test drive. If it doesn't work out, sell it to someone else and you are not out much more than pocket change.
If it works, upgrade to the more reliable Maxspect once the cheap one dies, or upgrade and keep the cheapie as a backup.
There will be some people that will never pay the full pop for the real deal product and for them, a cheap knockoff of lesser quality will be just fine.
Competition can be a good thing. Think Pepsi and Coke...
Not sure you need such a pump? Buy the cheap one and take it for a test drive. If it doesn't work out, sell it to someone else and you are not out much more than pocket change.
If it works, upgrade to the more reliable Maxspect once the cheap one dies, or upgrade and keep the cheapie as a backup.
There will be some people that will never pay the full pop for the real deal product and for them, a cheap knockoff of lesser quality will be just fine.
Competition can be a good thing. Think Pepsi and Coke...
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
It's just my opinion that i have a right to post about, just like you and Mh's and led's.
soulpatch
New member
But did they get patents? I couldn't find any when I briefly looked when this thread started and no one has posted any in all of these pages.
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
According to other sites the have the international patents and trademarks.
AZRippster
Diver & Reef Aquarium Nut
soulpatch
New member
I have seen reference to international IP but have not seen any actual posting about a patent. Trademark in this instance is irrelevant as they are not stealing a name but calling it exactly what it is by the original invention. So they have nothing to stand on trademark wise.
