awais98
SPS
Interesting to see how it is different from the BRS 2 canister method.
How do you deliver the water and the lanthanum to this one?
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Interesting to see how it is different from the BRS 2 canister method.
How do you deliver the water and the lanthanum to this one?
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requires a doser to push diluted mixture through the black 1/4" tubing entering the bottom of the reactor and flowing upwards through the first chamber for reaction then entering second chamber full of filter floss. havent got it yet but seems workable.
awais98
SPS
From what you say, bro it's same as BRS dual reactor.
Oh by the way the masterflex pump would be great to deliver the lanthanum slowly and continuously through the 1/4 fitting
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awais98
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S2minute
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little update:
i bought seaklear aquaria phos remover. i know its a weaker solution than a regular pool version, but the good part of this product is that you can dose the tank directly with it. no residue or harmful white debris to collect in filter socks etc.
in my 300 gal tank Hanna checker ULR was showing over 200 ppb (out of high range)
according to the directions on the bottle 1oz to 5000 gal, which in conversion comes to 0.0625oz to 300 gal. because tank had over 200 ppb i tripled the initial dose (0.2oz).
mixed it in some rodi water and poured it directly near the intake of skimmer.
Tank got slightly milky for 30 min and got cleared up. after 3 hrs i checked phos levels which were 70 ppb or 0.215ppm.
Bottle says to dose 0.06oz per day in 300 gal tank to maintain phos levels near 0.
though it cost the same or a bit higher than pool version i think paying $5 more for a quart is much better for not having to dose slowly with a doser or drip and clogging filter socks or floss in reactors etc.
At this time i dont have any livestock in the tank to see the effects of milkiness that last 30 min or so. but in order to reduce any effects of that i plan on mixing 0.5oz in a gal of rodi water and dose 600 ml (20oz)per day lasting a gal 6.5 days. which breaks down to same 0.0625 oz per day as directed on bottle.
Apex is setup to deliver 6ml then off for 9 min so 24 ml in 1 hour.
i bought seaklear aquaria phos remover. i know its a weaker solution than a regular pool version, but the good part of this product is that you can dose the tank directly with it. no residue or harmful white debris to collect in filter socks etc.
in my 300 gal tank Hanna checker ULR was showing over 200 ppb (out of high range)
according to the directions on the bottle 1oz to 5000 gal, which in conversion comes to 0.0625oz to 300 gal. because tank had over 200 ppb i tripled the initial dose (0.2oz).
mixed it in some rodi water and poured it directly near the intake of skimmer.
Tank got slightly milky for 30 min and got cleared up. after 3 hrs i checked phos levels which were 70 ppb or 0.215ppm.
Bottle says to dose 0.06oz per day in 300 gal tank to maintain phos levels near 0.
though it cost the same or a bit higher than pool version i think paying $5 more for a quart is much better for not having to dose slowly with a doser or drip and clogging filter socks or floss in reactors etc.
At this time i dont have any livestock in the tank to see the effects of milkiness that last 30 min or so. but in order to reduce any effects of that i plan on mixing 0.5oz in a gal of rodi water and dose 600 ml (20oz)per day lasting a gal 6.5 days. which breaks down to same 0.0625 oz per day as directed on bottle.
Apex is setup to deliver 6ml then off for 9 min so 24 ml in 1 hour.
i plan on dosing it through a 3 stage BRS reactor with 1st chamber as reaction 2nd as floss 3rd as 5 micron filter. As there is no livestock in this tank i dosed it directly.
Plus a single dose here and there may not show results of precipitation compared to constant dosing on daily basis which may have accumulation over time.
update and need some info from experts.
i have been dosing 1 gal of RO DI water mixed with 1 oz of LaCl. it was holding phos at 0.06 ppm (hanna phosphorus). Dosed every 15 min for 10 sec via BRS 50ml/min (actually 60ml/min) for 10 sec each run (basically 10ml every 15 min = 40ml per hour) gal last 3-4 days.
Lately its been not keeping phos at 0.06 ppm and doubled to 0.13 ppm. so i doubled the LaCl to 2 oz in 1 gal and i dropped it down to 0.08.. is there something i am missing?
should i add more LaCl to mixture? or should i dose more ml per day...
i have been dosing 1 gal of RO DI water mixed with 1 oz of LaCl. it was holding phos at 0.06 ppm (hanna phosphorus). Dosed every 15 min for 10 sec via BRS 50ml/min (actually 60ml/min) for 10 sec each run (basically 10ml every 15 min = 40ml per hour) gal last 3-4 days.
Lately its been not keeping phos at 0.06 ppm and doubled to 0.13 ppm. so i doubled the LaCl to 2 oz in 1 gal and i dropped it down to 0.08.. is there something i am missing?
should i add more LaCl to mixture? or should i dose more ml per day...
B
bozoreefer
You can do either situation.
More mL of 1oz/1 gallon per day will cut down your phosphate faster then the rate you are at now.
Increasing the volume of LaCl to the 1 gallon rodi, will cut your phosphate even faster then when you add more mL of 1 oz LaCl.
You can do either situation. 2nd situation just gets results faster.
Just be careful. Id increase it slowly.
time to update, 1/4" tubing that delivers the lanthunum to pump got clogged with with some white residue and no wonder how much more i told doser to dose phos levels didnt drop at all. so i took it out and cleaned it and diluted the mixture a lot more.
Phos according to ULR hanna is under 5ppb = 0.02 ppm.
here is what my setup looks like now.
1 gal of RoDi water mixed with 2oz of LC. dosed 10 ml per hour.
Mag 5 pumps water from sump with a long extension on intake with a small hole drilled for 1/4" tubing to deliver LC to the front of the pump impeller. then it travels to a 3 chamber reactor.
1st chamber is empty for reaction. Only mod i did is to add a 6" pvc pipe so water entering the chamber has time to react and flow downwards before entering the 6" pvc and flowing throw upwards to second chamber where there is a floss filter then it travels to third chamber with 5 micron sediment filter and them back out to near intake of skimmer.
Phos according to ULR hanna is under 5ppb = 0.02 ppm.
here is what my setup looks like now.
1 gal of RoDi water mixed with 2oz of LC. dosed 10 ml per hour.
Mag 5 pumps water from sump with a long extension on intake with a small hole drilled for 1/4" tubing to deliver LC to the front of the pump impeller. then it travels to a 3 chamber reactor.
1st chamber is empty for reaction. Only mod i did is to add a 6" pvc pipe so water entering the chamber has time to react and flow downwards before entering the 6" pvc and flowing throw upwards to second chamber where there is a floss filter then it travels to third chamber with 5 micron sediment filter and them back out to near intake of skimmer.
jjoos99
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what kindof ph reading are you all seeing with your dosing? I am currently dosing about 50ml of a strength of 5ml seaklear to 1 liter of water. I have fought low ph for quite some time. This mourning I checked and tank was at 7.69, during the day I am doing good to get above 8. I first thought my ca reactor was causing it but am now wondering if it is the lanthanum. I am experiencing low growth of my sps and am thinking if I can raise the ph the growth will increase. My alk last night was at 8.3 so I dont believe that is an issue. what kind of ph readings are you seeing with this?
thanks
Jeff
thanks
Jeff
bbaz123456
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I have been using lanthanum for years, on an as needed basis with no noticeable change in ph. My ph runs 8.1 to 8.3 through the day whether I am dosing or not.
But another WARNING to everyone, I know there are many in this thread already. Stripping all or much of your po4 quickly will end up bad!
I have always ran very high po4...over 2.5ppm for many years as I never bought into the "phosphates being bad theory" and I still don't but thought I'd give it a shot anyways. For about the last 6 months I've been keeping them down around the .5 range and everything was doing good. We'll, a couple days ago I lost a few sps and decided to run my tests. Everything was spot on except po4 was 0 on the Hanna high range checker, I don't have the low range so I don't know exactly where it is. Since then I've lost another 20-25 sticks.
I am aware that it is my fault because I am lazy and do not use precise measurements on dosing. I have a 5 gallon container that I pour "a little" lanthanum in and fill the rest with ro.
So, I'm not saying don't use it. Just don't be stupid with it!! Like me
But another WARNING to everyone, I know there are many in this thread already. Stripping all or much of your po4 quickly will end up bad!
I have always ran very high po4...over 2.5ppm for many years as I never bought into the "phosphates being bad theory" and I still don't but thought I'd give it a shot anyways. For about the last 6 months I've been keeping them down around the .5 range and everything was doing good. We'll, a couple days ago I lost a few sps and decided to run my tests. Everything was spot on except po4 was 0 on the Hanna high range checker, I don't have the low range so I don't know exactly where it is. Since then I've lost another 20-25 sticks.
I am aware that it is my fault because I am lazy and do not use precise measurements on dosing. I have a 5 gallon container that I pour "a little" lanthanum in and fill the rest with ro.
So, I'm not saying don't use it. Just don't be stupid with it!! Like me
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