Let's talk about the Cirrhilabrus lanceolatus. When will it get here to the States?!?

[SDguy]

Holy cry that's big fairy wrasse!

 

[jazzman7838]

trawlers, hook and line are some of the ways these crazily deep fish are caught in japan. not always do the fishes survive but these accidental catches are cheaper and if you are lucky, they do well and recover.

How's that work, exactly? I have a real hard time believing that these guys are being zipped up from 400+ feet to the surface and doing well. How do they deal with the embolisms?

 

[YKTea]

How's that work, exactly? I have a real hard time believing that these guys are being zipped up from 400+ feet to the surface and doing well. How do they deal with the embolisms?

I was wondering if anyone would ask this.

They use a very clever method that even I was shocked when I heard of it. They are quite secretive of it and I will talk about it at the next MACNA.

 

[YKTea]

here is a very old video with two super huge lanceolatus. the video is very poor quality, but you can see the way it swims and swishes it's giant tail around. it's so arowana like.

a behemoth of a cirrhilabrus.

http://youtu.be/-wf3QDI9oRI

 

[YKTea]

here is a rare video from many years back showing two really huge males in the wild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08KNonGL3_g

and this video, of a female.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c57E9zOtOU

 

[the808state]

Cool video of them in the wild. They are gigantic for a fairy wrasse and are pretty mean once settled.

A lot of fish are brought up from trawling. If they are needled quickly, smaller fish seem to bounce back (with the help of some meds too). Its pretty crazy that they do survive that, but it has happened many times.

 

[nonstopfishies]

The version of these that are trickling into the US now seem to be a variation?? Don't think I can post the link, but NYA has a male and I think DD has had a few they call Lanceolatus..

 

[nikon187]

I believe they were cf. lanceolatus not the true japanese variant

 

[nonstopfishies]

I believe they were cf. lanceolatus not the true japanese variant

Ahh yes. I did notice that. What does cf. mean?

 

[the808state]

cirrhilabrus cf. sp means a variant or thought to be subspecies. This is the easy way of saying it looks the same but will be eventually classified as a different species (once DNA is done) The ones from Philippines are much smaller too. Japanese ones look different and can get almost 6".

 

[YKTea]

as mentioned in previous threads,

cf. lanceolatus and lanceolatus are two totally different species and are not variants of each other.

cf. lanceolatus is related to the lunatus complex, and it is the only one to have a lancet shaped tail. it is a member of the lunatus complex though, and forms hybrids with lunatus from japan and cf. lunatus from philippines readily.

the described lanceolatus from japan is a huge, 8 inch fairy wrasse seen in these videos and pics. totally unrelated.

as mentioned by 808state, "cf" means to confer, and is used in undescribed or unknown fishes which bear close resemblance to a known species, and that species is placed as a suffix after "cf". in this case, cf. lanceolatus is compared to lanceolatus because and only because of tail shape. they are unrelated in all other aspect except for being in the same genus.

 

[nikon187]

The rose band fairy wrasse was also classified as lancelatus and has a lancet shaped tail.

( Cirrhilabrus roseafascia ) and in my fairy wrasse book by krutier, is labeled as just lancelatus. Makes it very confusing

 

[evolved]

The rose band fairy wrasse was also classified as lancelatus and has a lancet shaped tail.

( Cirrhilabrus roseafascia ) and in my fairy wrasse book by krutier, is labeled as just lancelatus. Makes it very confusing

No, Rose banded is Cirrhilabrus roseafascia, and therefore by definition is not C. lanceolatus. Yes, these two species are closely related, but they are not the same species.

The picture at the bottom of the page for C. lanceolatus in Kuiter's book was an error; that picture is actually C. roseafascia (as widely agreed upon since the book's publishing).

 

[nikon187]

No, Rose banded is Cirrhilabrus roseafascia, and therefore by definition is not C. lanceolatus. Yes, these two species are closely related, but they are not the same species.

The picture at the bottom of the page for C. lanceolatus in Kuiter's book was an error; that picture is actually C. roseafascia (as widely agreed upon since the book's publishing).

Oh I'm well aware they are different species ( have 2 ) just commenting on how thy are always mislabeled, lol. Even my suppliers list sometimes mid label them.

 

[MikeandNicole]

For your short term fix, pick up the cf. lancaelotus. Look at this stunner of a male that was collected recently.

 

[ingtar_shinowa]

Can't wait for my little boy to grow up more!