nano cube

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8053581#post8053581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
All I was saying is that there have been ALOT of people to fail in keeping anemones alive in situations like that.... yes your carpet did stay nice.... and it was in there for a few months.... but who is to say how much longer it would have lasted.... I can stick an anemone in a small tank next to mine with a power head and a little light and I am sure it will survive for quite a while.....but that does not mean that it is healthy or thriving. Anything that is in that size range can ultimately be nothing more than temporary. As the caretakers for these exotic, delicate creatures, we are responsible for providing the utmost in care for them. You would be pushing the limits puttin AN RBTA in the tank but the only reason to put two in is to make everyone look at you and question why.... bottom line is there is alot of algea that is usually caused by high phosphates and that isnt the best enviroment for an anemone.
Whatever floats your boat, my lights are not little lights by the way, it is not worth getting into an arguement over this. Try not to be so offensive next time please.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8053369#post8053369 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishnut321
yeah, im giving up on a nano cube, theres no point in spending htat much money on that, i would rather spend it on more lighting or a skimmer.... i am thinking more along the line of a 20-30 gallon cube with an overflow and small sump... i will probably get a t-5 or pc lighting system, since i like the daylight schedule, and im on a budget.... any i deas?
Have you consider the Aquapod 24 g tank? with either 150 MH or 70 W MH?
All you need in adition to that is a good heater and maybe a smaller power head. I would be big enough for an anemone and a pair of clown and a coral or two.
 
And the reason i have an algae bloom is b/c i added snails from the keys which i should not have done in the first place that were carying the hair algae and that is why i have a bloom right now. Not b/c of high phosphates,if i had high phosphates chances are i would have cyano as well, which i do not.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8053625#post8053625 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Minh Nguyen
Have you consider the Aquapod 24 g tank? with either 150 MH or 70 W MH?
All you need in adition to that is a good heater and maybe a smaller power head. I would be big enough for an anemone and a pair of clown and a coral or two.
70 watt over the 24 is not that great of an idea in fact it will probably not work, the 70 watt was made for the 12 and the 150 watt was made for the 24. 24 would need the 150, while the 12 would need the 70 watt if he decided to go that route. But you dont need to they will be fine under the jbj 12 gallon dlx. Contact bob fenner if you dont believe me. He is an expert when it comes to anemone's.
 
Bluecarpet,
Fishnut wanted advices. Your posts did not give all the relevant data, so I pointed it out. Take it however you want. About your carpet in a 12g, with the light you have it is clearly not adequate either in size or light. I am glad you got gave it up.
 
You are entitled to your own opinion but if you contact bob fenner, the real expert he will tell you otherwise. Just curious are you a marine biologist or just an hobbiest? Bob fenner is the expert and fishnut can contact him if he wants. Remeber fishnut is on a budget, he can get the jbj 12 dlx for as much as a 150 watt viper hqi system. I am giving him correct advice in my eyes and in bob fenner's eyes b/c he is the main person i get my information from.
 
No I am not a marine biologist, i am 3 1/2 months away from my Zoology degree, but the guy next to me is a marine biologist and he agrees that the long term success with a tank that size with that lighting would be difficult if not imposible.
 
Well tell him to contact robert fenner and get some accurate information. Lets get back on topic now. Fishnut you will be fine just as long as you would not mind to split them when need be.
 
well since you know him so well.... have him pm me with his agreement with you....

Fishnut I would take the consensus of everyone not the person claiming to know it all that has been through his high school biology classes... and quoting other people.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8054178#post8054178 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
well since you know him so well.... have him pm me with his agreement with you....

Fishnut I would take the consensus of everyone not the person claiming to know it all that has been through his high school biology classes... and quoting other people.
The other person happens to be robert fenner, you must not know who he is. He lives and breathes for marine life.


"Robert (Bob) Fenner is a content provider to the pet-fish (ornamental) aquatics hobby and trade, dive/travel adventure and underwater natural history genres; writing, photography and videography. Though retired since 1994, he continues to produce in this field as well as consult on aquaculture and public aquarium installations.

Bob has "lived" the science, hobby and business of aquatics in the Philippines, Japan and United States. All phases; collector, wholesale, jobber, retail, design, construction and maintenance. All levels; manager, owner, hatchery worker, retail clerk, technician. Except for a stint teaching high school sciences for four years, he has worked all his life in the field of ornamental aquatics.

Academic experience includes fifteen years of college, a couple of life science degrees and a teaching credential for chemistry, physics and biology. Published works include several studies on aquatic biological and chemical questions, and an extensive book and article publishing (helped author a few books, The Conscientious Marine Aquarist, Fishwatcher's Guide to the Tropical Marine Aquarium Fishes of the World, Natural Marine Aquariums Reef Invertebrates...) and photographic background in aquatic industry and hobby fields. Have taught High School sciences and Marine Sciences and Aquariology courses at the State University, University of California levels.

Bob has been an avid aquatic hobbyist since day one and is active in hobbyist and scientific organizations. He has served on numerous Boards, judged shows and given many programs."

Taken from his biography.
 
Well what is the difference, i am told to do something from him and i do it. And he says they will be fine. Well i am now done with this b/c it is not worth it anymore, i try to give advice and people try to shoot me down like i know nothing. Fishnut you can take anyone's advice but i ask you to contact bob fenner for he really knows what he is talking about. Good luck by the way. And i will be sure to post some pics of my bta's in about 6 weeks just for you jjackson. And some in about 6 months if you are still not convinced it will work. Hopefully by then they will have split a few times.
 
and the agreement I was talking about was not a contract meerly him agreeing with what you are preaching.

hey man I really have nothing against you.... I just would feel bad if someone with less knowledgabe people to rely on and question attempted to keep such fragile creatures in an enviroment.

Also if it splits it is usually because it is stressed.... hence if you read posts on how to propogate anemones it says dont feed them then feed them alot and then do a large water change.... there are other methods most of them involve making the anemone very unhappy forcing them to asexually split so they can survive.
 
i think we did and it stayed fairly nice... no name calling or anything....

he has a REALLY nice nano... I have respect for that it is hard to do.... I dont know if it comes easy to him or not... but some people struggle to get what he has and I just want to make sure someone looking at getting one doesnt think that it will be easy at all... it is tough to keep a tank that small with an anemone that needs stability.

I commend him for what he has accomplished with it but I am concerned of what the future holds... hopefully it is great and we can mimic what he has done and all have success.
 
Blue Carpet, What does Bob say you need to do to keep the anemone happy in your small tank? Here is half of mine. I had an anemone. My levels were good. Lots of LR. No phosphates. Temp steady at 81. Tank was a little over 6 mo. and doing well. I'm mourning. I asked for help but got none. I hope yours thrive. With the help you have they will. Oh, lights were pc 12" 18 Watts. Not 6 inches away. It lasted about as well as anyone with less than 2 yrs exp. I'm not happy with that. Hoping you will get good help from your friend. Yours are beautiful.

Here's the spot...I gave the mushroom the spot.

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BlueCarpet,
I'm confident you will do fine .... I'm not worried about your livestock at all, and I'm sure they will all do very well. You're experienced and seem successful. I think the worry by people here was just to give the "new guys" the best chance with conservative advice. Don't take the attacks on what you are doing too seriously, but try to consider what is good advise to give newbies.

Also about Bob Fenner..... I mean, at least find a passage like this to quote the guy instead of just saying his name ;)... the website he works at (www.wetwebmedia) adamantly opposes BTA's in small aquariums... look below
Check out this page: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btasysfaqs.htm and scroll down to this passage where Fenner says in reply to someone's comment about a BTA in a 29 gallon:
<excerpt from FAQ, check out link for whole post>
"(person asking question) ->I have tried other with no success. I have a 29 gallon tank that’s been up for over a year.
(Fenner's reply)<This is a dangerously small volume...>"

It all over the FAQ's that those systems are too small because of stability issues. I don't believe there is one single FAQ on the whole site that says its ok to do so.....

Sorry but there had to be some defense for Fenner's real stance ;).
 
That didn't post right..... Fenner's reply was "This is a dangerously small volume" to the comment on the 29 gallon.
 
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