MiddletonMark
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I would lean much more towards this being so than for scleractian [stony] corals.
AFAIK, gorgonia would be a much better candidate for phyto consumption. [as would the rotifers, no doubt].
"pastel" colors vs. deep dark coloring
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AFAIK, gorgonia would be a much better candidate for phyto consumption. [as would the rotifers, no doubt].
RichConley
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Why?
I wouldnt be surprised if the kent/etc werent just the human stuff ground up and put into solution.
highquality
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I have recieved two Maricultured corals that came in. One was a Very Pink Monti. Foliosa and a very lime Green Monti Foliosa . They were way brighter than any other Caps ive seen come in.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9126329#post9126329 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kirstenk
Vanquish, you have a lovely tank. Whatever you are doing, keep it up.
Thanks Kirsten, I'm trying a whole new load of stuffs currently, the corals are pretty healthy and I've pretty stable parameters, just that I haven't got any of those robust growth in some SPS tanks... I'm trying to lower the nutrients a little more and moved my lights about 4 inches lower...
Am also dosing some trace elements and Iodide...
Hopefully the combination wouldn't mess things up!
stony_corals
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I hate to blow the theory about high levels of light and low nutrients = pastel colors. I've got very high lights (with lumenarc reflectors), and very low nutrients ( 0ppm PO4 per deltec Merck, and 0ppm NO3 per salifert) and I've got deep colorization of my sps.
Part of the problems with human aminos is that there are so many fillers used, lots of sugars, not that sugars are bad, but it's just an example. I use Korallen-Zucht's Aminos....
Part of the problems with human aminos is that there are so many fillers used, lots of sugars, not that sugars are bad, but it's just an example. I use Korallen-Zucht's Aminos....
Serioussnaps
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No one has posted pics of what they mean by pastel colors, although I am sure everyone has a good idea of what the discussion is about. Here is an example......this is an ORA Nathan's Green Millepora(a prime example in my tank of pastelish colors).....got it brown and dark green(it was brown due to LFS) and after 4 months in my tank here it is>>>>>>>
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Its a bad picture, but you get the idea. Instead of a deep dark green that I see many people who have it get...mine is a LIME Green...picture makes it look yellowish but in person it is unmistakable as lime green.
Now, with that said and using this particular coral that is widely owned in captivity maybe we could do some color comparisons and compare all aspects of our reef-keeping philosophies, husbandry, equipment, and water chemistries.
I believe that I get pastel colors on alot of my corals because I run a BB, skimmed pretty good particularly for a small 55g grow-out tank, and also I use T5's as my lighting(very heavy on the blue plus) I feed my corals more than most people just because I can. IMO feeding and adding nutrients hasn't changed MY colors, but only my growth.
Despite the feding anomaly, I tend to agree with the general formula: low nutrients plus high light equals more pastel coloring in acroporids, however, there are many exceptions to this all over RC that one can find.
If i had to bet on it, the two main culprits for pastel like colors in my tank are the T5's and the BB methodology.
Nitrates are 0 0n salifert, phosphate is 0 on saliftert(of course) but i run a GFO in a phosban reactor 24/7 and change the media monthly...also i use 3 times the recommended dosage of Phosban partly because if i dont i get some algae growth and i HATE fricking algae.id rather have pastelish colors than a tank full of nuisance algae
Now, lets see some other examples of pastel colored corals, with pics!!!! Maybe those of you that have a Nathans Green Millie from ORA, post a pic and we can compare for the sake of having a concrete example.
Cheers and Happy February
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Its a bad picture, but you get the idea. Instead of a deep dark green that I see many people who have it get...mine is a LIME Green...picture makes it look yellowish but in person it is unmistakable as lime green.
Now, with that said and using this particular coral that is widely owned in captivity maybe we could do some color comparisons and compare all aspects of our reef-keeping philosophies, husbandry, equipment, and water chemistries.
I believe that I get pastel colors on alot of my corals because I run a BB, skimmed pretty good particularly for a small 55g grow-out tank, and also I use T5's as my lighting(very heavy on the blue plus) I feed my corals more than most people just because I can. IMO feeding and adding nutrients hasn't changed MY colors, but only my growth.
Despite the feding anomaly, I tend to agree with the general formula: low nutrients plus high light equals more pastel coloring in acroporids, however, there are many exceptions to this all over RC that one can find.
If i had to bet on it, the two main culprits for pastel like colors in my tank are the T5's and the BB methodology.
Nitrates are 0 0n salifert, phosphate is 0 on saliftert(of course) but i run a GFO in a phosban reactor 24/7 and change the media monthly...also i use 3 times the recommended dosage of Phosban partly because if i dont i get some algae growth and i HATE fricking algae.id rather have pastelish colors than a tank full of nuisance algae
Now, lets see some other examples of pastel colored corals, with pics!!!! Maybe those of you that have a Nathans Green Millie from ORA, post a pic and we can compare for the sake of having a concrete example.
Cheers and Happy February
Serioussnaps
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BTW Im gonna go snap some new pics of all my pastel like colors for more examples.
mike89t
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Here is a birdsnest that was orginally much darker in color when I first got the frag. Now it's kind of "pastel" in color.
I also have a pink mille that is growing great, but the pink coralites have turned to almost white in color. I wonder if my overdriven T5 lighting is bleaching these corals or if they are just "pastel" colors like others are mentioning. This pink mille is the fastest growing coral in my tank but it is now almost a white mille.
I do have a A. Tenius frag that is near the pink mille and it looks great. It has gorgous navy blue tips.
I also have a pink mille that is growing great, but the pink coralites have turned to almost white in color. I wonder if my overdriven T5 lighting is bleaching these corals or if they are just "pastel" colors like others are mentioning. This pink mille is the fastest growing coral in my tank but it is now almost a white mille.
I do have a A. Tenius frag that is near the pink mille and it looks great. It has gorgous navy blue tips.
africangrey
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pastel or not serioussnap, that milli looks sweet!!!
firerock
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A question for those that are experiencing pastel colors on your corals, are you running T-5s?
The colors of my corals are close to Serioussnaps and mike89t, and I am also running T-5s. I thought it has been a common knowledge that corals under T-5s are more pastel than under MH.
The colors of my corals are close to Serioussnaps and mike89t, and I am also running T-5s. I thought it has been a common knowledge that corals under T-5s are more pastel than under MH.
firerock
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I think I just really need to change my lighting....
Although some colors are more pastel, while green usually turns into a neon yellow/green, my pink milli is unbeatable though...it is just glowing under the T-5s. I just am having a hard time with blue & purples in SPS. LPS and softies are mostly keeping their colors and thriving.
firerock
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9134636#post9134636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mike89t
Here is a birdsnest that was orginally much darker in color when I first got the frag. Now it's kind of "pastel" in color.
I also have a pink mille that is growing great, but the pink coralites have turned to almost white in color. I wonder if my overdriven T5 lighting is bleaching these corals or if they are just "pastel" colors like others are mentioning. This pink mille is the fastest growing coral in my tank but it is now almost a white mille.
I do have a A. Tenius frag that is near the pink mille and it looks great. It has gorgous navy blue tips.
That's close to what I have on my pink BN. I think mine has an even whiter body than yours.
My T-5s are not overdriven, I have a Tek 6 X 39w over a 46g tank. I have placed some frags of pink pociliopora at areas that are more shaded, and they turned more "brown". I don't think that's the kind of "darkening" most of us are looking for. Once I move the frags out of the shade, they become pastel again with time.
DaddyJax
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JB NY thanks, I was under the impression that he wanted to see others who had the same coral as his.
I would not say that the Rose was pastel but beautiful!
That stag is very nice! I have received a few like it that were maricultured. It looks like it might have the same base or is it attached to your rock?
I would not say that the Rose was pastel but beautiful!
That stag is very nice! I have received a few like it that were maricultured. It looks like it might have the same base or is it attached to your rock?
