As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons; however I am always happy to reevaluate any stocking plan along with tank size and maturity.
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As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons; however I am always happy to reevaluate any stocking plan along with tank size and maturity.
thenewguy997
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Copperband with heniochis chrystosomus?
75g reef, no larger fish
Is it possible, in a mixed reef setting, risks understood
75g reef, no larger fish
Is it possible, in a mixed reef setting, risks understood
frogdog
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Good Morning Snorvich!
I have a few new questions for you, if you don't mind.
A while ago, I asked you about the stocking for a future system, 150G DT, 75G sump, and 40G upstream refugium. Assuming that everything was mature, stable, and with great chemical parameters, you gave me your blessing for a mated pair of mandarins and 10-20 cardinalfish, Apogon parvolus.
My new questions are these:
Instead of 10-20 Apogon parvolus, could I have half Apogon parvolus and half another species of cardinalfish. The only other ones I would be interested in are Ostorhinchus talboti or Sphaeramia orbicularis. Of course, my preoccupations are, again, that they do not fight with each other, do not fight with the other species of cardinalfish, do not harass the mandarins, and do not compete for pods.
And if I can't have 2 species of cardinalfish in the same DT, could I have a few in the refugium? They must not eat the pods or fight with each other.
Lastly, when it comes time to add the fish to the DT, which should go in first? the mandarins or the cardinalfish? And would the same species of cardinalfish have to go in the tank all at the same time or can I add them a little at a time? e.g. quarantine a few, add them, quarantine a few, add them, etc. etc. No fighting allowed.
Thank you very much for all your hard work in this thread.
I have a few new questions for you, if you don't mind.
A while ago, I asked you about the stocking for a future system, 150G DT, 75G sump, and 40G upstream refugium. Assuming that everything was mature, stable, and with great chemical parameters, you gave me your blessing for a mated pair of mandarins and 10-20 cardinalfish, Apogon parvolus.
My new questions are these:
Instead of 10-20 Apogon parvolus, could I have half Apogon parvolus and half another species of cardinalfish. The only other ones I would be interested in are Ostorhinchus talboti or Sphaeramia orbicularis. Of course, my preoccupations are, again, that they do not fight with each other, do not fight with the other species of cardinalfish, do not harass the mandarins, and do not compete for pods.
And if I can't have 2 species of cardinalfish in the same DT, could I have a few in the refugium? They must not eat the pods or fight with each other.
Lastly, when it comes time to add the fish to the DT, which should go in first? the mandarins or the cardinalfish? And would the same species of cardinalfish have to go in the tank all at the same time or can I add them a little at a time? e.g. quarantine a few, add them, quarantine a few, add them, etc. etc. No fighting allowed.
Thank you very much for all your hard work in this thread.
Assuming the copperband eats, should be no problem. Both are somewhat delicate eaters.
a sixline wrasse limits possible tank mates. Chromis will become one over time and be careful that you quarantine since they are highly susceptible to uronema marinum
thenewguy997
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Thank you for the assessment snor!!
Thank you very much, snorvich. Just one more question.. Since I won't mix the cardinalfish species in the DT, could I keep a few of either Ostorhinchus talboti or Sphaeramia orbicularis in the 40G refugium? one? two? more?
THANKS!
sure. If you can be lucky enough to get a M/F pair they will likely mate. Behavior of either is similar.
AdamSabina
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I know I've posted multiple stocking list but hoping you'll review another list. This is going to be a 150 gallon reef.
White Tail Bristletooth Tang
Ctenochaetus flavicauda)
Tangs
Blue Reef Chromis
Chromis cyaneus
Chromis
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
Paracheilinus carpenteri
Wrasse
Quantity: 2
Dispar Anthias
Pseudanthias dispar
Anthias
Quantity: 4
Firefish, Purple
Nemateleotris decora
Dartfish
Quantity: 2
Radiant Wrasse
Halichores iridis
Wrasse
Royal Gramma Basslet
Gramma loreto
Basslet
True Percula Clownfish
Amphiprion percula
Clownfish
Quantity: 2
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang
Ctenochaetus binotatus
Tangs
Whitecheek Tang
Acanthurus nigricans
Tangs
White Tail Bristletooth Tang
Ctenochaetus flavicauda)
Tangs
Blue Reef Chromis
Chromis cyaneus
Chromis
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
Paracheilinus carpenteri
Wrasse
Quantity: 2
Dispar Anthias
Pseudanthias dispar
Anthias
Quantity: 4
Firefish, Purple
Nemateleotris decora
Dartfish
Quantity: 2
Radiant Wrasse
Halichores iridis
Wrasse
Royal Gramma Basslet
Gramma loreto
Basslet
True Percula Clownfish
Amphiprion percula
Clownfish
Quantity: 2
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang
Ctenochaetus binotatus
Tangs
Whitecheek Tang
Acanthurus nigricans
Tangs
I would not do three tangs in this sized tank although it might work marginally. Also, two firefish will become one. Fine except as annotated.
LamboBoy
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First let me thank you for this great service you are providing us all!! my pleasure!
I have a 120g, 6' in length FOWLR tank with 40g sump/refugium.
My first fish in the tank was a 4" marine betta, followed by a 3" female Lineatus wrasse. Two weeks later, I added a male 5" Lineatus. Two weeks after that, I added a 4" Regal angel and then a pair of Longnose hawks. All doing really well, no aggression at all except when the male Lineatus wrasse flashes and asserts his dominance over the female.
I wanted to add another pair of wrasse into the mix, maybe an Exquisite or Hooded Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus) or a Labout's Fairy wrasse. Do you think it's possible to add another pair yes. But always use an acclimation box for social acclimation and if so, which of the three species you think it would be the safest to add? Exquisite or C. bathyphilus would be my choice behaviorally.
Change of plan, just lost my female Lineatus wrasse, found her on top of the tank, must have jumped out, took cover off for cleaning and forgot to replace it. Stupid mistake on my part, I'm so ****ed!
Is it safe for me to add one or two female Lineatus to the tank since the male is already in there? If so, you think one or two is better? He is 5" and the females are 2-3". No longer adding the other pair of wrasse. Thanks again.
I have a 120g, 6' in length FOWLR tank with 40g sump/refugium.
My first fish in the tank was a 4" marine betta, followed by a 3" female Lineatus wrasse. Two weeks later, I added a male 5" Lineatus. Two weeks after that, I added a 4" Regal angel and then a pair of Longnose hawks. All doing really well, no aggression at all except when the male Lineatus wrasse flashes and asserts his dominance over the female.
I wanted to add another pair of wrasse into the mix, maybe an Exquisite or Hooded Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus) or a Labout's Fairy wrasse. Do you think it's possible to add another pair yes. But always use an acclimation box for social acclimation and if so, which of the three species you think it would be the safest to add? Exquisite or C. bathyphilus would be my choice behaviorally.
Change of plan, just lost my female Lineatus wrasse, found her on top of the tank, must have jumped out, took cover off for cleaning and forgot to replace it. Stupid mistake on my part, I'm so ****ed!
Is it safe for me to add one or two female Lineatus to the tank since the male is already in there? If so, you think one or two is better? He is 5" and the females are 2-3". No longer adding the other pair of wrasse. Thanks again.
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Either one or two females would work. For two, be sure there is a slight difference in size.
First post so here it goes. Have a IM nuvo 38 with 30 lbs of rock and 20 lbs live sand. Tank I has been running for two months with only CUC and a Coral banded shrimp. Going to be a mixed reef. Wanting to do following
Diamond watchman goby
Ocellaris clown-orange
Ocellaris clown-black and white
Royal gramma
Firefish
I am afraid the coral banded May be too aggressive since he has been in the tank pretty much by himself and may remove him and add a skunk cleaner or fire shrimp. Pease Let me know if this looks good.
Thanks,
Mark
Diamond watchman goby
Ocellaris clown-orange
Ocellaris clown-black and white
Royal gramma
Firefish
I am afraid the coral banded May be too aggressive since he has been in the tank pretty much by himself and may remove him and add a skunk cleaner or fire shrimp. Pease Let me know if this looks good.
Thanks,
Mark
AZBigJohn
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Another question on planning my move from the 55 gallon to the 155 gallon tank. My one problem-child fish that I am debating not moving over is a pygmy angel. Very personable fish, always out in the open, model citizen as far as coral is concerned, but definitely territorial in the 55 gallon tank. They were the third fish in that tank, and while it left the firefish, Occellaris clowns, Diamond Goby and BiColor blenny alone, anything else added to the tank in his "niche" was hassled and ultimately didn't work out long term.
As I do plan on getting a full-sized angel and/or tang towards the end of my stocking plan (well down the list-not close in time frame yet) I am afraid if I add the angel to the tank now, it will get established and become king of this tank, too. How much tank will the pygmy try to control in a 155 (6 foot long bowfront)? Is that an answerable question?
Unfortunately as soon as everyone gets moved over, the 55 is coming down, and that leaves my options the 29 gallon (to small for the pygmy) or the LFS (an option, but I have had him 4 years)
Thanks for your thoughts, Steve!
As I do plan on getting a full-sized angel and/or tang towards the end of my stocking plan (well down the list-not close in time frame yet) I am afraid if I add the angel to the tank now, it will get established and become king of this tank, too. How much tank will the pygmy try to control in a 155 (6 foot long bowfront)? Is that an answerable question?
Unfortunately as soon as everyone gets moved over, the 55 is coming down, and that leaves my options the 29 gallon (to small for the pygmy) or the LFS (an option, but I have had him 4 years)
Thanks for your thoughts, Steve!
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AZBigJohn
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That's odd, it won't seem to let me quote your quote within my quote... but just saying that made my head hurt...
In my 29 gallon currently are 2 Occellaris clowns, a large blue green Chromis and a Flame Hawk. Yes it is a Cherub Pygmy Angel. As he would indeed be the last fish in the 29 gallon, would he peacefully coexist in the 29 gallon? It is a fairly tall, bullet-shaped tank (one of the old Cardiff tanks) and do not see any dominance issues between the clowns and the Chromis.
In my 29 gallon currently are 2 Occellaris clowns, a large blue green Chromis and a Flame Hawk. Yes it is a Cherub Pygmy Angel. As he would indeed be the last fish in the 29 gallon, would he peacefully coexist in the 29 gallon? It is a fairly tall, bullet-shaped tank (one of the old Cardiff tanks) and do not see any dominance issues between the clowns and the Chromis.
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