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I have a 30 gal tank, octopus 1000 hob skimmer, Eheim easy 60 filter, brs dry rock, and about a 2" live sand bed. Tank is really close to completing cycle. Here are the species I am looking at adding. If you could please tell me an order to add these to resolve territory conflict. Thanks, these are my top 10. Will prob only do 4-5 though

1. Coral Beauty
2. Yellow Assessor
3. Royal Gramma
4. Benggai Cardinal
5. Orchid Dottyback
6. Purple Firefish Goby
7. Midas Blenny
8. Blue Devil Damsel
9. Onyx Percula Clown
10. Ocellaris Clown
 
Currently have a 14g biocube with only a pair of clown fish in it. I know 14 is a little small for 2 Clowns, but had to downgrade for 6 months due to space.

Upgrading to a 40 gallon all on one mixed reef tank with Skimmer, Fuge, reactor, etc. And I'm wanting to put a few more fish in.

Thinking of:
Watchman goby and pistol shrimp pair
Helfrichi or Purple Firefish
Flame angel
Lawnmower blenny

Not sure if that's too many for a 40 gallon.
The thing that worries me though is trying to introduce the Firefish into the tank that has a pair of clown already.
 
What I have done (for the tank that only exists in my dreams -- so take this with a grain of salt) is look up each fish on liveaquaria and go from nicest temperament to harshest -- so the nice guys can have the home court advantage when the meaner ones are introduced.

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I have a 30 gal tank, octopus 1000 hob skimmer, Eheim easy 60 filter, brs dry rock, and about a 2" live sand bed. Tank is really close to completing cycle. Here are the species I am looking at adding. If you could please tell me an order to add these to resolve territory conflict. Thanks, these are my top 10. Will prob only do 4-5 though

The ones that would work in this sized tank are annotated. Pick any four.

1. Coral Beauty
2. Yellow Assessor fine
3. Royal Gramma fine
4. Benggai Cardinal fine
5. Orchid Dottyback
6. Purple Firefish Goby fine
7. Midas Blenny fine
8. Blue Devil Damsel
9. Onyx Percula Clown fine
10. Ocellaris Clown fine
 
Currently have a 14g biocube with only a pair of clown fish in it. I know 14 is a little small for 2 Clowns, but had to downgrade for 6 months due to space.

Upgrading to a 40 gallon all on one mixed reef tank with Skimmer, Fuge, reactor, etc. And I'm wanting to put a few more fish in.

Thinking of:
Watchman goby and pistol shrimp pair
Helfrichi or Purple Firefish
Flame angel needs a larger tank
Lawnmower blenny

Not sure if that's too many for a 40 gallon.
The thing that worries me though is trying to introduce the Firefish into the tank that has a pair of clown already.

That is an issue. Firefish need gentle peaceful tank mates
 
36x18x21 Acrylic Aquarium with Center Overflow

Substrate
60lbs of Reef Saver from BRS
80lbs of Arag-Alive Caribsea Reef Sand (Around 3-3 1/2" Sand Bed)
Various Sized Empty Shells and Reef Rubble

Equipment
Eshopps PSK-100 (Skimmer)
Sicce Syncra Silent 3.0 (Return)
Sicce Voyager 2 Stream Pump x2 (Powerheads)
Wavemaker
Berlin Systems Sump of approximate same footprint
Enhiem Jager 125 watt x2 (Heaters)
Lighting Current (26 watts Cree LEDS)
Lighting Future (Julyish - 2x Lumina Full Spectrum)

Inverts
56x Dwarf Ceriths
21x Nassarius
17x Florida Ceriths
16x Nerite (Nerita Fulgurans)
14x Assorted Hermits (I am aware that they will take snails. I'm hoping the empty shells will keep this to a minimum. I am a fan of watching them though so hope this isn't a problem)
Tiger Tail Sea Cucumber (Holothuria Hilla)
Black Longspine Urchin (Diadema Setosum)
3x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata Wurdemanni)
Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Lysmata Debelius)
Red Banded Snapping Shrimp (Alpheus Randalli)
5x Sexy Anemone Shrimp (Thor Amboinensis)
2x Porcelain Crab (Petrolisthes Galathinus)
Ultra Maxima Clam Blue (Tridacna Maxima)

Fish
Yasha Goby (Stongobiops Yasha)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor Favissimus)
2x Pajama Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia Nematoptera)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus Splendidus)
Blue Dot Jawfish (Opistognathus Rosenblatti)
4x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon Atrangulatus)
3x Greenbanded Goby (Elacatinus Multifasciatum)
Hectors Goby (Amblygobius Hectori)
Yellow Stripe Clingfish (Diademichthys Lineatus)

Coral
Various Zoanithids and Mushroom species

Notes
I am currently in what I'm anticipating to be a long cycle since I went with dry rock.

I plan on getting some sand from fellow reefers to help get some of the good hitch hikers I may be missing out on once the cycle is over.

I plan on seeding pods once the cycle is over. And possibly several times over the first year.

I don't plan on adding the Mandarin or the Clam until after the tank has been up for a year.

The theory I'm trying to go with is super peaceful fish that are typically kept in nano tanks. I'm hoping by doing this I can have a fair number of fish and inverts in the tank. I like diversity and the joy of finding a fish I may not of seen for a few days and just generally having stuff happen all over the tank.

I am hoping that I could have 1 birdnest in the future as a center piece but am not 100% on that idea. I will have to look at the tank when the time comes.

I am guessing this list is overstocked but not sure. The fish I really want are the Jawfish and the Yasha Goby. The rest are interesting fish that I believe should be peaceful but I will cut them before these two unless cutting one of these fish will greatly increase the other fish I could have.

I've been in and out of saltwater and have had success in the past with 125 gallon reef tank and a 10 gallon nano (both ran for 2+ years but were taken down for various reasons) I have also had failures with other tanks. I've always kept freshwater as long as I can remember. I'd consider my self a newbie though since I've been out of salt long enough to feel that plenty has changed.
 
36x18x21 Acrylic Aquarium with Center Overflow

Substrate
60lbs of Reef Saver from BRS
80lbs of Arag-Alive Caribsea Reef Sand (Around 3-3 1/2" Sand Bed)
Various Sized Empty Shells and Reef Rubble

Equipment
Eshopps PSK-100 (Skimmer)
Sicce Syncra Silent 3.0 (Return)
Sicce Voyager 2 Stream Pump x2 (Powerheads)
Wavemaker
Berlin Systems Sump of approximate same footprint
Enhiem Jager 125 watt x2 (Heaters)
Lighting Current (26 watts Cree LEDS)
Lighting Future (Julyish - 2x Lumina Full Spectrum)

Inverts For this sized tank, your numbers are way too high
56x Dwarf Ceriths
21x Nassarius
17x Florida Ceriths
16x Nerite (Nerita Fulgurans)
14x Assorted Hermits (I am aware that they will take snails. I'm hoping the empty shells will keep this to a minimum. I am a fan of watching them though so hope this isn't a problem) they will take snails even if empty shells are available
Tiger Tail Sea Cucumber (Holothuria Hilla)
Black Longspine Urchin (Diadema Setosum)



3x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata Wurdemanni)
Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Lysmata Debelius)
Red Banded Snapping Shrimp (Alpheus Randalli)
5x Sexy Anemone Shrimp (Thor Amboinensis)
2x Porcelain Crab (Petrolisthes Galathinus)
Ultra Maxima Clam Blue (Tridacna Maxima)

Fish I bolded your two must haves but the number of fish is too many for this sized tank especially with a blue spotted jawfish
Yasha Goby (Stongobiops Yasha)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor Favissimus)
2x Pajama Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia Nematoptera)
Green Mandarin (Synchiropus Splendidus) your tank size is not really sufficient for long term success especially with other fish which do eat copepods
Blue Dot Jawfish (Opistognathus Rosenblatti) Please read this article. Also, they do best at cooler temperature. The book by Scott Michael called Basslets, Dottybacks & Hawkfishes offers excellent information regarding the captive housing requirements for long term success, native distribution, biology and more. Captive care for the Jawfish can be found on page 164 and more specific information on the Bluespotted Jawfish is offered on page 171
4x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon Atrangulatus)
3x Greenbanded Goby (Elacatinus Multifasciatum)
Hectors Goby (Amblygobius Hectori)
Yellow Stripe Clingfish (Diademichthys Lineatus)

Coral
Various Zoanithids and Mushroom species

Notes
I am currently in what I'm anticipating to be a long cycle since I went with dry rock.

I plan on getting some sand from fellow reefers to help get some of the good hitch hikers I may be missing out on once the cycle is over.

I plan on seeding pods once the cycle is over. And possibly several times over the first year.

I don't plan on adding the Mandarin or the Clam until after the tank has been up for a year. tank size not sufficient for long term success

The theory I'm trying to go with is super peaceful fish that are typically kept in nano tanks. I'm hoping by doing this I can have a fair number of fish and inverts in the tank. I like diversity and the joy of finding a fish I may not of seen for a few days and just generally having stuff happen all over the tank.

I am hoping that I could have 1 birdnest in the future as a center piece but am not 100% on that idea. I will have to look at the tank when the time comes.

I am guessing this list is overstocked but not sure. The fish I really want are the Jawfish and the Yasha Goby. The rest are interesting fish that I believe should be peaceful but I will cut them before these two unless cutting one of these fish will greatly increase the other fish I could have.

I've been in and out of saltwater and have had success in the past with 125 gallon reef tank and a 10 gallon nano (both ran for 2+ years but were taken down for various reasons) I have also had failures with other tanks. I've always kept freshwater as long as I can remember. I'd consider my self a newbie though since I've been out of salt long enough to feel that plenty has changed.
 
90g corner overflow
2 X Jebao RW-8
720 gph return
160# SouthSeas dry rock, split ~110/50 between DT and sump
80# sand, mostly sugar fine (1"-4")
30g sump
Reef Octopus Classic 150 skimmer
165w full spectrum dual channel dimmable Chinese LEDs
DIY (BRS) screen top


Wish list/stock list:
Multicolored Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
Bluehead Fairy Wrasse
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Filamented Flasher Wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse

I understand shrimp would be seen as food. What about snails or hermits? I understand you don't suggest fish, but is there a grazer I could add? Kole or lawnmower?

TIA
 
90g corner overflow
2 X Jebao RW-8
720 gph return
160# SouthSeas dry rock, split ~110/50 between DT and sump
80# sand, mostly sugar fine (1"-4")
30g sump
Reef Octopus Classic 150 skimmer
165w full spectrum dual channel dimmable Chinese LEDs
DIY (BRS) screen top essential with these fish


Wish list/stock list: should be fine
Multicolored Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
Bluehead Fairy Wrasse
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Filamented Flasher Wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse

when adding wrasses to a tank with established wrasses, an acclimation box is highly desirable

I understand shrimp would be seen as food. What about snails or hermits?

A Melanurus wrasse would be a risk for invertebrates
I understand you don't suggest fish, but is there a grazer I could add? Kole or lawnmower?

TIA

One of the Ctenochaetus tangs would work
 
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Originally Posted by chefbill
90g corner overflow
2 X Jebao RW-8
720 gph return
160# SouthSeas dry rock, split ~110/50 between DT and sump
80# sand, mostly sugar fine (1"-4")
30g sump
Reef Octopus Classic 150 skimmer
165w full spectrum dual channel dimmable Chinese LEDs
DIY (BRS) screen top essential with these fish


Wish list/stock list: should be fine
Multicolored Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
Bluehead Fairy Wrasse
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Filamented Flasher Wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse

when adding wrasses to a tank with established wrasses, an acclimation box is highly desirable

I understand shrimp would be seen as food. What about snails or hermits?

A Melanurus wrasse would be a risk for invertebrates
I understand you don't suggest fish, but is there a grazer I could add? Kole or lawnmower?

TIA

One of the Ctenochaetus tangs would work



Is there a prefered order of introduction?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chefbill
90g corner overflow
2 X Jebao RW-8
720 gph return
160# SouthSeas dry rock, split ~110/50 between DT and sump
80# sand, mostly sugar fine (1"-4")
30g sump
Reef Octopus Classic 150 skimmer
165w full spectrum dual channel dimmable Chinese LEDs
DIY (BRS) screen top essential with these fish


Wish list/stock list: should be fine
Multicolored Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
Bluehead Fairy Wrasse
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Filamented Flasher Wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse

when adding wrasses to a tank with established wrasses, an acclimation box is highly desirable

I understand shrimp would be seen as food. What about snails or hermits?

A Melanurus wrasse would be a risk for invertebrates
I understand you don't suggest fish, but is there a grazer I could add? Kole or lawnmower?

TIA

One of the Ctenochaetus tangs would work


Is there a prefered order of introduction?

Please do not use letter coloration or remove the colorations I used as it makes it more difficult for me to do version control. Thanks. Most aggressive last so that would be the Ctenochaetus tang.
 
sorry, copy and paste was all black, I tried to make my question stand out while keeping all the info. The order of the wrasses a concern?
 
The clean up crew was the suggested one for this tank size by a non affiliate so I won't mention their name. I thought it seemed super high. I'll look into lowering the numbers to something more reasonable.

How far am I off on the fish list if I eliminate the Jawfish and Mandarin?

No issues with the inverts other than the number of snails and the issues with hermits/snails?
 
The clean up crew was the suggested one for this tank size by a non affiliate so I won't mention their name. I thought it seemed super high. I'll look into lowering the numbers to something more reasonable.

How far am I off on the fish list if I eliminate the Jawfish and Mandarin?

No issues with the inverts other than the number of snails and the issues with hermits/snails?

Fine except you can have only a single clown goby. It is difficult for me to go back in this thread so for future requests, please provide entire planned stocking list and tank size.
 
Liopropoma carmabi (Curacao Deepwater Candy Basslet)

Would this one be for someone with years of experience (hard to care for) ?
 
36 x 18 x 20

I revised the list based off your input and some others.

Fish:
Bonded Pair Yasha Goby (Stongobiops Yasha)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor Favissimus)
2x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon Atrangulatus)
3x Greenbanded Goby (Elacatinus Multifasciatum)
Hectors Goby (Amblygobius Hectori)
Yellow Stripe Clingfish (Diademichthys Lineatus)
Helfrichi Firefish (Nemateleotris Helfrichi)
Sharknose Goby (Elacatinus Evelynae)

Inverts:
Clean-up Crew (still researching numbers since mine were off)
Tiger Tail Sea Cucumber (Holothuria Hilla)
3x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata Wurdemanni)
Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Lysmata Debelius)
Red Banded Snapping Shrimp (Alpheus Randalli)
5x Sexy Anemone Shrimp (Thor Amboinensis)
2x Porcelain Crab (Petrolisthes Galathinus)
Black Long Spine Urchin (Diadema Setosum) Also curious how disruptive this will be to the tank.

Any order they need to go in?
 
75 gallon FOWLR with 30 gallon sump

2 ocellaris
longnose hawkfish (might try to get a pair)
flame angel or coral beauty
kole tang

is this the correct order? how mature should the tank be before adding the angel and tang?
 
Liopropoma carmabi (Curacao Deepwater Candy Basslet)

Would this one be for someone with years of experience (hard to care for) ?

No. They are pretty easy but do best with peaceful tank mates and an aquascape that provides in and out type of swimming. Initially slightly reclusive, but eventually not shy although reserved around rowdy tank mates.
 
75 gallon FOWLR with 30 gallon sump

2 ocellaris
longnose hawkfish (might try to get a pair)
flame angel or coral beauty
kole tang

is this the correct order? how mature should the tank be before adding the angel and tang?

stocking list is fine, order is fine. I suggest 9 months of tank maturity for algae grazers.
 
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