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[snorvich]

Steve,


I am looking to add some tangs to my tank. I would like some advice on what will work.

I currently have
~325-350gal 8' tank
2000 watts light
~10,000gph rated flow minus head loss
sump skimmer etc

reef tank

Current inhabitants
Achilles tang
Powder blue tang
red sea desardjini tang
one spot foxface
copperband butterflyfish
yellow watchman and pistol
scooter blenny
2x perculas
3x firefish
long horn blenny
harlequin shrimp
5x chromis
2x bluespot jawfish


I would like to add some tangs to get more large fish in the tank. it looks empty.

I recently saw a "half black" tang in store and can't find much info on it. know much about them?

Mimic Half Black Tang (Acanthurus chronixis) is a fairly peaceful tang that does not get too large (about 10 inches)

I like most tangs and would like to ideally end up with 8-10 large fish. I consider the copperband, foxface and tangs to be large, so can I add 3-5 big fish? My LFS is suggesting a "peacekeeper" tang like a vlamingi. I am unfamiliar with the concept of a peacekeeper, is there such a thing?

There is no such concept. A vlamingi tang will get too large for your tank. While peaceful, a 16 inch fish at maturity needs a larger tank (I have a tank your sized, love the vlamingi, but would never keep one)

tangs I like
blue Paracanthurus hepatus
blonde naso Naso elegans
convict Acanthurus triostegus
orange shoulder Acanthurus olivaceous
clown tang Acanthurus lineatus horribly aggressive, expert only fish
mimic lemon peel Acanthurus pyroferus
mimc half black Acanthurus chronixis
powder brown Acanthurus japonicus

If not tangs, what other big fish can I add to a mixed reef?

While your tank is not small, it is not really all that large when it comes to adding a lot of tangs which occupy the same ecological niche. I would be reluctant to recommend adding as many as you are planning to add


As a side question, which of these might work well in my standard 120 with some chromis and a blenny?

One of the Ctenochaetus tangs would work

thanks!

 

[prickles]

so of the fish on my list, which ones would be most likely to get along with the others already in place? I used to have a couple of others that got along well, but lost them in a move. Otherwise I would have added the current ones last.

you also said you are hesitant to add that many, which I take as, "It's possible, but probably not a good idea." How many would you suggest then?

Thanks for your time and consideration.

 

[snorvich]

so of the fish on my list, which ones would be most likely to get along with the others already in place? I used to have a couple of others that got along well, but lost them in a move. Otherwise I would have added the current ones last.

The problem is that fish that occupy the same ecological niche do not like feeling crowded. Unfortunately that is a progressive issue as the fish get larger and their perceived territory shrinks. So, in effect a tank of tangs will have problems, the question is when.

you also said you are hesitant to add that many, which I take as, "It's possible, but probably not a good idea." How many would you suggest then?

That is my gentle way of saying I really cannot make a good recommendation as it would involve guessing. I always prefer not guessing. My initial speculation is that an established sailfin will not allow another conspecific. You already have two other expert level fish that may be problematic.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Always my pleasure, sorry I cannot be more accommodating.

 

[jws0318]

Hi Steve,

I have a 60g cube reef with the following:

Tailspot blenny
Yellow assessor
Blue flasher wrasse
Green banded goby x2
Hectors goby
Melanarus wrasse (in qt)

2 questions -

Even though I have 2 types of gobies now, they are non burrowing, so could I add a burrowing type of goby?

I have heard all sorts of things about royal grammas and their temprement - what is your take? I have a very peaceful tank now - I love the look of the royal gram a, but I don't want to upend the peacefulness.

As always, thanks in advance for your guidance!

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve,

I have a 60g cube reef with the following:

Tailspot blenny
Yellow assessor
Blue flasher wrasse
Green banded goby x2
Hectors goby
Melanarus wrasse (in qt)

2 questions -

Even though I have 2 types of gobies now, they are non burrowing, so could I add a burrowing type of goby?

a goby/pistol shrimp would be fine but the sand spreading can be a bit of a nuisance with corals

I have heard all sorts of things about royal grammas and their temprement - what is your take? I have a very peaceful tank now - I love the look of the royal gram a, but I don't want to upend the peacefulness.

It can go either way, they can be a bit aggressive; also you are starting to have a a fair number of fish in your tank. Low density stocking is always more conducive to peaceful behavior

As always, thanks in advance for your guidance!

 

[J2T]

75g with 30L sump

Current residents:
1 - Foxface Lo
1 - Coral Beauty
2 - Oscellaris clowns
1 - PJ Cardinal
2 - blue/green chromis
1 - Randall's Goby w tiger pistol
1 - Yellow Watchman w candy cane pistol
1 - spotted mandarin

I miss my algae blenny and would like to add one but I do not want to add another grazer with the foxface and coral beauty already there. Would I be ok to add a midas blenny or would there be any compatibility issues?

 

[snorvich]

75g with 30L sump

Current residents:
1 - Foxface Lo
1 - Coral Beauty
2 - Oscellaris clowns
1 - PJ Cardinal
2 - blue/green chromis
1 - Randall's Goby w tiger pistol
1 - Yellow Watchman w candy cane pistol
1 - spotted mandarin

I miss my algae blenny and would like to add one but I do not want to add another grazer with the foxface and coral beauty already there. Would I be ok to add a midas blenny or would there be any compatibility issues?

I would not add a herbivore with the existing ones in your sized tank.

 

[1001hobbies]

Time to get list together

Time to get list together

Ok here is what I am looking at getting in my tank in a month or so after my cycle is complete. My tank specs are in my sig. so here we go. This will be a mixed reef in time. :fun4:

Fish:
(x1) Tomini Tang (Ctenocheatus tominiensis) or Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon)
(x2 maybe) False Percula Clownfish - i would like Snowflakes but don't know if i want to sped the extra on them at this time.
(x1) Neon Dottyback (Pseudochromis aldabraensis)
(x1)Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)

Inverts:
Derasa Clam (Tridacna derasa)
(x5) Hermits- coming from my other tank i know about Might kill the snails but they are here.
(x10-15) Nassarius Snails
(x10-20)Turbo/Astrea Snail
Rose Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor)

This is what I have so far any input would be great, I still would like a few more fish if it is possible.

Thanks,
Nick


90 Gallon reef tank, 45 Gallon sump(~25Gallon's of water), 80lbs of live sand, ~95lbs live rock, T5 6 Bulb, 2 600GPH power heads, 1200 GPH Mag pump, Coral life 125 skimmer, time and $$

 

[WillM]

Flame Angel Possible?

Flame Angel Possible?

I have a 75G tank with a 40G sump/refugium and skimmer, 2 Koralia 1050s, and an AC110 packed with a little more LR and the foam pulled. At least 120lbs of live rock in tank and sump.

Some soft coral (zoas, mushrooms, gsp, xenia), 2 damsels, and a tomato clown.

Bought some coral from a guy that is getting out of the hobby and he also has a flame angel. Will this fish work in my set up?

Thanks!

 

[Shiori]

Okay so this is a re-looked over list from my last post and I think it's done...well provided there's nothing wrong with it

These are the fish I would like to get in this order:
Royal Gramma (Gramma loreto)
Yellow Forktail (Assessor flavissimus)
(2) Neon goby (Elacatinus oceanops) tank bred if possible
Barber pole goby (Stonogobiops nematodes)
Clown goby (Stonogobiops yasha)
Exquisite fairy wrasse (Cirrhilabrus exquisitus)
(2) Tank bred Common Clown (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Spotted Mandarin (Synchiropus picturatus)
Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma flavescens)

I hope I got all the scientific names right. But, is this a good order for these? Also, will my tank be able to support this bio-load? Can I add more fish or should I remove some fish?

Tank info:
75gal display
20gal sump w/mini refugium
4.7gal HOB refugium (for the mandarin food source)
Protein skimmer
4x54W HOT5's
Screen top
75-80lbs of rock
~80lbs of sand (2-3inch sand bed)

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help and advice!

 

[snorvich]

Ok here is what I am looking at getting in my tank in a month or so after my cycle is complete. My tank specs are in my sig. so here we go. This will be a mixed reef in time. :fun4:

Fish:
(x1) Tomini Tang (Ctenocheatus tominiensis) or Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon) A Ctenocheatus tang is fine, Acanthurus leucosternon, no
(x2 maybe) False Percula Clownfish - i would like Snowflakes but don't know if i want to sped the extra on them at this time.
(x1) Neon Dottyback (Pseudochromis aldabraensis) A very aggressive fish which I do NOT recommend
(x1)Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)

Inverts:
Derasa Clam (Tridacna derasa)
(x5) Hermits- coming from my other tank i know about Might kill the snails but they are here.
(x10-15) Nassarius Snails
(x10-20)Turbo/Astrea Snail
Rose Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor)

This is what I have so far any input would be great, I still would like a few more fish if it is possible.

Thanks,
Nick


90 Gallon reef tank, 45 Gallon sump(~25Gallon's of water), 80lbs of live sand, ~95lbs live rock, T5 6 Bulb, 2 600GPH power heads, 1200 GPH Mag pump, Coral life 125 skimmer, time and $$

 

[snorvich]

Okay so this is a re-looked over list from my last post and I think it's done...well provided there's nothing wrong with it

These are the fish I would like to get in this order:
Royal Gramma (Gramma loreto)
Yellow Forktail (Assessor flavissimus)
(2) Neon goby (Elacatinus oceanops) tank bred if possible for two, they must be paired
Barber pole goby (Stonogobiops nematodes)
Clown goby (Stonogobiops yasha)
Exquisite fairy wrasse (Cirrhilabrus exquisitus)
(2) Tank bred Common Clown (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Spotted Mandarin (Synchiropus picturatus)
Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma flavescens) If you MUST have a tang, it is far better to pick one of the Ctenocheatus tangs

I hope I got all the scientific names right. But, is this a good order for these? Also, will my tank be able to support this bio-load? Can I add more fish or should I remove some fish?

My advice is to remove the tang, but possibly look at one or two additional small interesting fish. Bioload, otherwise, should be fine.

Tank info:
75gal display
20gal sump w/mini refugium
4.7gal HOB refugium (for the mandarin food source) be sure this is established before adding the mandarin
Protein skimmer
4x54W HOT5's
Screen top
75-80lbs of rock
~80lbs of sand (2-3inch sand bed)

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help and advice!

 

[rogermccray]

I had previously put together a fish list that you deemed good but was thinking of making a change and wanted to see what you would think



Stocking list
Occelaris Clown
Chevron Tang
Mandarin (I have a refugium that has been online for six months now)
blue/green chromis
carberryi anthias x4
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor flavissimus)

Additional Fish
Lawnmower Blenny ( I forgot to put this one on my first list, would it preclude the Chevron?)
Green Wrasse (Halichoeres chloropterus)

Inverts
Pink Anemone (currently in the system)
Fire Shrimp (currently in the system)
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp x2

Assorted snails (Nassauris/fighting conch/Dwarf Cerith/Cerith/Astrea/Red Banded Trochus)

 

[snorvich]

I had previously put together a fish list that you deemed good but was thinking of making a change and wanted to see what you would think



Stocking list
Occelaris Clown
Chevron Tang
Mandarin (I have a refugium that has been online for six months now)
blue/green chromis
carberryi anthias x4
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor flavissimus)

Additional Fish
Lawnmower Blenny ( I forgot to put this one on my first list, would it preclude the Chevron?)
Green Wrasse (Halichoeres chloropterus)

Inverts
Pink Anemone (currently in the system)
Fire Shrimp (currently in the system)
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp x2

Assorted snails (Nassauris/fighting conch/Dwarf Cerith/Cerith/Astrea/Red Banded Trochus)

Tank size and maturity? Sorry I cannot remember this stuff, but there have been literally thousands responding to this thread.

 

[rogermccray]

Tank size and maturity? Sorry I cannot remember this stuff, but there have been literally thousands responding to this thread.

Sorry about that, I deleted the tank info from my copy and paste. I current have a ~200 gallon bowfront but I am downsizing to a 125. My tank and refugium have been online for six months.



Stocking list
Occelaris Clown (currently in the system)
Chevron Tang
Mandarin (I have a refugium that has been online for six months now)
blue/green chromis (currently in the system)
carberryi anthias x4
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor flavissimus)

Additional Fish
Lawnmower Blenny ( I forgot to put this one on my first list, would it preclude the Chevron?)
Green Wrasse (Halichoeres chloropterus)

Inverts
Pink Anemone (currently in the system)
Fire Shrimp (currently in the system)
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp x2

Assorted snails (Nassauris/fighting conch/Dwarf Cerith/Cerith/Astrea/Red Banded Trochus)

 

[snorvich]

Sorry about that, I deleted the tank info from my copy and paste. I current have a ~200 gallon bowfront but I am downsizing to a 125. My tank and refugium have been online for six months.



Stocking list
Occelaris Clown (currently in the system)
Chevron Tang
Mandarin (I have a refugium that has been online for six months now)
blue/green chromis (currently in the system)
carberryi anthias x4
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Gold Assessor Basslet (Assessor flavissimus)

Additional Fish
Lawnmower Blenny ( I forgot to put this one on my first list, would it preclude the Chevron?)
Green Wrasse (Halichoeres chloropterus) will put your shrimp at risk

Inverts
Pink Anemone (currently in the system)
Fire Shrimp (currently in the system)
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp x2

Assorted snails (Nassauris/fighting conch/Dwarf Cerith/Cerith/Astrea/Red Banded Trochus)

otherwise, fine

 

[MaxxedMan]

Suggest Stock List (66 Gallons)

2x Oc. Clowns
Blue Green Chromis
Clown Goby, Green
Firefish
Spotted Cardinalfish
Mandarin Dragonete
Flasher Wrasse

Thanks in advance

 

[omartinez]

a while back i asked about my intented fish but i'm asking again because my proyect is more advanced, almost ready, and i have more knowledge of what i want... This is my first saltwater tank. The tank will also house soft corals

my system is : 135g(DT)+45g(sump)+55g(refugium)

DT size is 72"Long x 24"High x 18"

Bicolor Dottyback (Pictichromis paccagnellae) x 2
Blue Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus) x 1
Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens) x 1
Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) x 2
Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni) x 2
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) x 1
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri) x 4
Red Mandarin (Pterosynchiropus splendidus var.) x 1 (if i can keep it will be added last maybe one or two years after setup.)

 

[snorvich]

Suggest Stock List (66 Gallons)

2x Oc. Clowns
Blue Green Chromis
Clown Goby, Green
Firefish
Spotted Cardinalfish
Mandarin Dragonete
Flasher Wrasse

Thanks in advance

Well, it is ok, albeit a bit much. The Mandarin needs to be added last after the tank is 8 months old. It would be best for that fish if there were an active refugium.

 

[snorvich]

a while back i asked about my intented fish but i'm asking again because my proyect is more advanced, almost ready, and i have more knowledge of what i want... This is my first saltwater tank. The tank will also house soft corals

my system is : 135g(DT)+45g(sump)+55g(refugium)

DT size is 72"Long x 24"High x 18"

Bicolor Dottyback (Pictichromis paccagnellae) x 2 I do not recommend dottybacks as they are aggressive, two for sure will not fly
Blue Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus) x 1 The Reef Central recommendation is a 240 gallon tank for this fish
Yellow Tang - Hawaii (Zebrasoma flavescens) x 1
Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) x 2
Kaudern's Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni) x 2 Two must be a M + F pair
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) x 1
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri) x 4 Must be one male and the rest female and this implies a mesh covered tank
Red Mandarin (Pterosynchiropus splendidus var.) x 1 (if i can keep it will be added last maybe one or two years after setup.)