Silent and Failsafe Overflow System

[rocking]

what is the best computer program to draw my systom up with ?

 

[rocking]

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what is the best computer program to draw my systom up with ?

 

[rocking]

what is the best program to draw my system up on the computer ?

 

[rocking]

sorry for so meany post this thing has gone crazy !

 

[uncleof6]

I have been to 2 different lowes and 4 different Home Depot's. None have Sanitary Tee
Street Elbow
3/8 John Guest
Gate Valve
I assure you in Canada the selection is very small at the big box stores. Uncle I appreciate the websites but honestly was looking for more generic places that I can purchase everything from. Looks like I have to go one by one. The PVC is 1.5" Anyone from Canada out there purchase this stuff?

I assure you that if you want quality parts and supplies, generic suppliers will be operating on the bottom end of the scale. If you want things the way you want them, you kind of have to bite the bullet. I know that in Canada, it is hard to get some things. On the other hand though, these things ARE available in Canada. Grainger is also around in Canada, and much can be obtained from them.

 

[Bunkerbean]

I am not sure if this is the best thread to get the information I am looking for. I have a 150 gallon tank I want to do this on, but it is not drilled. What is your guys recommendations for drilling the holes?

 

[h.cordero]

Bean have been using your overflow for 1yr now and really love it! Its on my 450gal FW and want to change to SW but dont know whats the max flow for 1.5". I know that its been answered but can't find it!
Thanks!

 

[uncleof6]

Bean have been using your overflow for 1yr now and really love it! Its on my 450gal FW and want to change to SW but dont know whats the max flow for 1.5". I know that its been answered but can't find it!
Thanks!

Knowing the length of the drop would probably be helpful. Your target should be 4500 gph +. But without the length of the drop--it is unknown what you will need.

@ 24" drop, max theoretical is ~ 3750 gph, 36" -- 4596. That does not account for friction loss.

 

[uncleof6]

sorry for so meany post this thing has gone crazy !

I has indeed. Needs a server upgrade/bandwidth increase--or just some simple maintenance; who knows.

Most design software is rather pricey. Google Sketchup is sufficient for work on a forum. It is free, but it is not really free, but it is free, for a simplified version. (not simplified by much.) I use it for here: I am not going to fire up the high end stuff, unless I am getting paid.

But really , this is way off topic for this thread.

 

[mr.maroonsalty]

what is the best computer program to draw my systom up with ?

Sorry, for me it's the one in my head with a graph paper notebook display screen and a pencil keyboard. Just trying to be funny, and I'm not too bad with a pencil and I would just get frustrated using nonprofessional system.

 

[h.cordero]

The drop is 5ft to the sump. Right now it has 3600gph pump.
At 24" the max 3750gph right? Is this gph is only the full siphon tube or both in conjuction?
Thanks uncleo!!!

 

[Reef Starter2]

I would like to ask for some suggestions.

Currently have a 125 Gallon Glass tank. Looking into installing a Beananimal system. Also using 40 gallon sump. I have purchased the 1" bulkheads and the 1.5" drain and pipes. It shows in Bean's thread this can handle 3000 GPH but those holes look awful small. Should I switch up to the 1.5 bulkhead? Also running the overflow shelf either 60" or 72". What are the best measurements of the internal box? Maybe 4" wide x 5" deep? I am wanting to use a 1500-2000 GPH external pump. Thanks for any input!!! Scott

 

[uncleof6]

The drop is 5ft to the sump. Right now it has 3600gph pump.
At 24" the max 3750gph right? Is this gph is only the full siphon tube or both in conjuction?
Thanks uncleo!!!

@ 60" the max theoretical, is ~ 5900 gph. You won't get that, no matter how hard you try, as there will always be friction loss. But I would figure you woulld get the 4500 gph, down the 1.5" system with little trouble--provided you are using 1.5" bulkheads. When running normally, the flow is shared between the siphon, and open channel. The siphon takes all but just a small amount, which will flow through the open channel. See the adjustment instructions.

 

[mr.maroonsalty]

The quality difference is readily apparent just by looking at the chinese knockoffs next to a JG fitting, so I am not going to get into a topical debate on the relative merits of junk. It is not a question of money to burn, or listening to "bonded" plumbers, which really means nothing in terms of knowledge of their trade, or quality of their work. It means they had money to burn for an insurance policy. (That is all a bond is.) Plumbers are like electricians: Nine out of ten I would not let near my house plumbing, let alone a high end aquarium--just as I would not let 9 out of 10 electricians near my main service panel.

Do we need high end fittings on an aquarium? That is debatable. For a length of air vent tubing that won't cause a flood if the fitting breaks? Debatable. However, the Chinese knockoff fittings are truly junk. Which is why they get used: cheap. Big Box stores keep surviving: they sell cheap junk. Everyone's sense of value is based on different "standards." Quality vs cheap.

I guess me know nottin bout high end sir. This cheap vs quality has me confused; I thought I was doing right with my hardware store cause it sits right besides the Wallmart so it has to be good? Right sir? I mean me just a simple working person. The phone line on my pole still only has two wires. I drive an old truck that pull around some of my animals with. I need to go fetch me some more wood so my pipes won't freeze. Sorry 90% of us don't meet your basic standard and are all worthless scrap.

 

[uncleof6]

I would like to ask for some suggestions.

Currently have a 125 Gallon Glass tank. Looking into installing a Beananimal system. Also using 40 gallon sump. I have purchased the 1" bulkheads and the 1.5" drain and pipes. It shows in Bean's thread this can handle 3000 GPH but those holes look awful small. Should I switch up to the 1.5 bulkhead? Also running the overflow shelf either 60" or 72". What are the best measurements of the internal box? Maybe 4" wide x 5" deep? I am wanting to use a 1500-2000 GPH external pump. Thanks for any input!!! Scott

For a normal drop to under the tank, it would probably be a good idea. See previous posts.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21013272&postcount=5432

 

[Mr_Jones]

Hi Bean

I managed to find everything(all currently on order) except the 1.5"NPTx1.5 slip PVC adapter. Question do I have any other options? can I simply put a cap on the PVC pipe and avoid tis fitting?......thanks again......

 

[uncleof6]

Not knowing where you are located, but that adapter is a very common part, and any HD or Lowes will have it.

The part is not critical to function, but for maintenance purposes, it is a really good idea.

 

[BeanAnimal]

As Uncle said, the part is a common and should be at any local ace, menards, home depot, lowes, etc. It may be male to male or female to female, etc. Nonetheless, you should be able to easily find a way to adapt over to NPT threads and a screw on cap (or less convenient, plug).

A SLIP cap will work, but will not seal without silicone grease (or even sealant). The cap muswt be airthight in order for the siphon to properly form.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I would like to ask for some suggestions.

Currently have a 125 Gallon Glass tank. Looking into installing a Beananimal system. Also using 40 gallon sump. I have purchased the 1" bulkheads and the 1.5" drain and pipes. It shows in Bean's thread this can handle 3000 GPH but those holes look awful small. Should I switch up to the 1.5 bulkhead? Also running the overflow shelf either 60" or 72". What are the best measurements of the internal box? Maybe 4" wide x 5" deep? I am wanting to use a 1500-2000 GPH external pump. Thanks for any input!!! Scott

The 1" bulkheads will be fine for the size pump you have proposed, however 1.5" bulkheads will not hurt and will give you more flexibility for future changes of plans. Up to you...

The internal box.... big enough to manipulate the plumbing and/or get your hands into to fetch things that fall in or grow in...

 

[Jaybles]

A little advise if you guys can help.

I'm planning on having the BeanAnimal overflow in my 55 gallon. I'm going for around 600gph flow through the system. I was hoping you could advise me on what size pipe to use for the system.