Sonny's Rimless Shallow Reef.

[mojo~]

I piked up some vodka today. its 80 proof. but it was the cheapest they had. If the tank doesnt do better I mayhave to drink it myself. lol. I dont plan on dosing anything more than the 3 drops of mb7 a day for another couple weeks.

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281417#post15281417 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mojo~
I piked up some vodka today. its 80 proof. but it was the cheapest they had. If the tank doesnt do better I mayhave to drink it myself. lol. I dont plan on dosing anything more than the 3 drops of mb7 a day for another couple weeks.

Give it time before you start up the vodka, at least two weeks of MB7 dosing. Good luck!

 

[SWINGRRRR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281863#post15281863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
Give it time before you start up the vodka, at least two weeks of MB7 dosing. Good luck!

Just for general knowledge, why the wait? I would think that adding the vodka would help promote the bacteria you are adding; in essence less would need to be added. But then the other side of my brain says that you want the bacterium that is added to eat detritus, N03, N04, etc before adding food (vodka) for them.

No trying to be argumentative, just wondering.

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281970#post15281970 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SWINGRRRR
Just for general knowledge, why the wait? I would think that adding the vodka would help promote the bacteria you are adding; in essence less would need to be added. But then the other side of my brain says that you want the bacterium that is added to eat detritus, N03, N04, etc before adding food (vodka) for them.

No trying to be argumentative, just wondering.

I say two weeks so that the good bacteria has a chance to settle in before bad bacteria can take over. You dont want to feed bad bacteria such as Red Cyano.

 

[kfick]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281007#post15281007 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
Cheap 40proof Mohawk Vodka.

Sunny, are you sure you don't mean 40% alcohol by volume and not 40 proof? 40 proof vodka is pretty weak and most are 80 proof.

 

[trueblackpercula]

You can add 40 proof but let's see what the master says.

 

[jbanks]

It's 40 or 80 proof.. You just add more of the 40 proof based on the article that Sunny posted some time ago.

 

[Tritonian]

Hi Sonny,

I have to commend you on being an absolutely amazing member here on reefcentral. I myself have been a member for a few years with very little participation to say the least.

After reading through about 80 pages in this dual thread. I have seen you answer questions over and over, willingly and positively, every single time. Which is most commendable. You make the time to be involved with the clearly loads of visitors to this thread. Very cool of you.

But mostly I have seen how a clear and practical approach to reef keeping can really help clear out some of the mysticism behind a successful aquarium. Many would say that there is no holy grail. But a clear concise explanation of reef husbandry can go a long way, and to me that is the holy grail.

Thanks for all the clarification and time you take to explain these things over and over again. After all this hobby is a lot about good repetition

 

[ento-reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283457#post15283457 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tritonian
Hi Sonny,

I have to commend you on being an absolutely amazing member here on reefcentral. I myself have been a member for a few years with very little participation to say the least.

After reading through about 80 pages in this dual thread. I have seen you answer questions over and over, willingly and positively, every single time. Which is most commendable. You make the time to be involved with the clearly loads of visitors to this thread. Very cool of you.

But mostly I have seen how a clear and practical approach to reef keeping can really help clear out some of the mysticism behind a successful aquarium. Many would say that there is no holy grail. But a clear concise explanation of reef husbandry can go a long way, and to me that is the holy grail.

Thanks for all the clarification and time you take to explain these things over and over again. After all this hobby is a lot about good repetition

+1 I have learned so much just reading through Sonny's threads, and I know my tank is all the more better off because of it.

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15282992#post15282992 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kfick
Sunny, are you sure you don't mean 40% alcohol by volume and not 40 proof? 40 proof vodka is pretty weak and most are 80 proof.

kfick , thanks for pointing this out. I just checked the bottle and it is actually 80 proof. I have been dosing 2ML a day of it. I was using 40 Proof last month but I picked up the Mohawk instead of the other brand. Oh well, I was only dosing 2ML anyways. I started feeding heavier and was wondering why my tank kept looking cleaner, LOL. Ill stick to 80 Proof from now on.

Here are the charts for both 40 and 80 Proof.
The article can be found here:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-08/nftt/index.php

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15281863#post15281863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
at least two weeks of MB7 dosing. Good luck!

Sunny, did you receive noticeable results within two weeks? If so, what were they? Thanks

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283457#post15283457 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tritonian
Hi Sonny,

I have to commend you on being an absolutely amazing member here on reefcentral. I myself have been a member for a few years with very little participation to say the least.

After reading through about 80 pages in this dual thread. I have seen you answer questions over and over, willingly and positively, every single time. Which is most commendable. You make the time to be involved with the clearly loads of visitors to this thread. Very cool of you.

But mostly I have seen how a clear and practical approach to reef keeping can really help clear out some of the mysticism behind a successful aquarium. Many would say that there is no holy grail. But a clear concise explanation of reef husbandry can go a long way, and to me that is the holy grail.

Thanks for all the clarification and time you take to explain these things over and over again. After all this hobby is a lot about good repetition

Oh wow, thank you for the kind words. :beer:

I really love this hobby and want everyone to enjoy and to be successful as well. Everyone puts quite a bit of time and money into their systems and they deserve to have colorful and healthy systems. There is nothing better than a happy healthy reef. The look in visitors eyes when they look into your system for the first time is breathtaking. Its nice to know that you dont have to travel around the world to visit a reef.

Many people get discouraged and quit too early in this hobby. EVERYONE, including myself, have been or will eventually fight with algae, RTN, etc. But, if you can fight through it all and learn from your mistakes and trials you will come out all the better.

One day, everything will click for you and everything will come as second nature. Then, you can go out and spread the knowledge as well.

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283614#post15283614 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mpoletti
Sunny, did you receive noticeable results within two weeks? If so, what were they? Thanks

When I started up the MB7 I stopped Vodka for two weeks. I was having a cyano outbreak and I wanted to get a hold on it. I siphoned out as much red cyano as I could and then began dosing the MB7. After a the first week I noticed clearer water along with increased skimmate, cleaner rocks, and more time in between glass cleaning. After the two week period the red cyano was gone and has never showed its face since.

In my opinion, bacteria should always be used when dosing a carbon source. The two complement each other and work well at keeping my system clean.

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283717#post15283717 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
When I started up the MB7 I stopped Vodka for two weeks. I was having a cyano outbreak and I wanted to get a hold on it. I siphoned out as much red cyano as I could and then began dosing the MB7. After a the first week I noticed clearer water along, increased skimmate, cleaner rocks, and more time in between glass cleaning. After the two week period the red cyano was gone as has never showed its face since.

In my opinion, bacteria should always be used when dosing a carbon source. The two complement each other and work well at keeping my system clean.

Thanks for the feedback, I definitely agree that when dosing a carbon source, there also should be a bacteria addition as well. I have been debating around with adding different bacteria weeks at the same time. One week bioptim, one week MB7, one week zeobak. Yep, I've been looking for a new project

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283668#post15283668 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
The look in visitors eyes when they look into your system for the first time is breathtaking.

EVERYONE, including myself, have been or will eventually fight with algae, RTN, etc. But, if you can fight through it all and learn from your mistakes and trials you will come out all the better.

One day, everything will click for you and everything will come as second nature. Then, you can go out and spread the knowledge as well.

ditto

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283799#post15283799 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mpoletti
Thanks for the feedback, I definitely agree that when dosing a carbon source, there also should be a bacteria addition as well. I have been debating around with adding different bacteria weeks at the same time. One week bioptim, one week MB7, one week zeobak. Yep, I've been looking for a new project

Dosing three different brands of bacteria is probably not a bad idea. I may have to get some Zeobak and try it out for myself.

 

[Tobit]

Sonny: If you were starting a brand new tank today, would you use any of these additives starting on day one? What would your initial routine be like today for the first 20 days or so? Thanks.

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283852#post15283852 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
Dosing three different brands of bacteria is probably not a bad idea. I may have to get some Zeobak and try it out for myself.

I've always been a "mixer". From mixing salts, reactor media and the old days of Jack and coke. The only thing I never mixed were wearing any boots that weren't three stripes

 

[elijaher]

I like the ideal of daily dosing.

 

[SunnyX]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15283879#post15283879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mpoletti
I've always been a "mixer". From mixing salts, reactor media and the old days of Jack and coke. The only thing I never mixed were wearing any boots that weren't three stripes

LOL, you should see my closet! Adidas from top to bottom! :lol: From t-shirts,jerseys, sweaters, hoddies, and of course the assortment of shoes and slippers.