Thumbs up for Ozone!

[Kenfuzed]

I would not run the Enaly without some way to controll or measure your tank's ORP. Otherwise you are just guessing and could easily overdose. I run my Enaly on a Milwaukee controller right now.

An AquaController II is on its way and it will be interesting to see if the Enaly generates any interference. I may need to set up a relay or something to go in between.

 

[Bill and Elaine]

How about short periods of time like one hour a day.....till the controller gets here

 

[clkwrk]

geeeze everyone's so anxious to run their ozone without a controller.

IMO I would wait until you have a controller.

 

[mobert]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6402998#post6402998 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Armando
I have my Red Sea 100mg ozonizer plugged for the past two weeks, running 24/7 at 40%. (300G total system)

I have not seen much difference in the ORP readings. It doesn't go up and stays at 298-302.

Is this normal?

It is only normal if you have your orp controller set at 300. Might try turning it up to see if it makes a difference.

 

[mobert]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6403534#post6403534 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by VDHD1
So, I read the thread and still don't understand how to kill the smell. Is there an easy diagram to install a skimmer with an ozinator, and kill smell?

In addition to adding carbon at the skimmer output and all vent openings on my skimmer I fixed it so that my skimmer venturi draws air from the skimmer cup. I did this by drilling small holes in the skimmer cap and adding air line to the "T" that feeds the venturi. Now, any excess ozone will be recirculated in the skimmer. It really completely eliminated even the faintest odor for me. Same principal as Lifereef skimmers with their CVC. http://www.lifereef.com/frame.html

 

[Psionicdragon]

it doesn't seem must user of enaly are running it 24/7, is that assumption correct?

 

[reefkeeper1]

Mobert, thanks for the tip! I've heard people wanting to draw in fresh air to their skimmers from outside the sump area since they feel O2 levels may be higher, but recirculating the air within the skimmer cup would help cut down the stray ozone. I purchased a coralife ozone reactor, but it would be a PITA to hook it up for me.

 

[reefkeeper1]

it doesn't seem must user of enaly are running it 24/7, is that assumption correct?

I'm only running mine 15 minutes ever 2 hours on my 150-gallon tank. Amazing results in terms of water clarity.

 

[clkwrk]

mine runs 24/7 but is controll via acII if it gets above 425 it turns off. Which it never does I have found my tanks equalibrium

 

[broe33]

i run mine 24/7 with no carbon or air dryer. i have the biggest red sea unit so it is a bit overkill but i just turn it down. Gotta love crystal clear water and no algae.

 

[clkwrk]

I can agree with crystal clear water but not the algea . It still persists. Darn reef crest stuff.

 

[ClubReef]

I have a Coralife super skimmer with an air-inlet silencer, can I simply take tubing from the O3 device and plug it into the silencer ? I'm planning on using the Red Sea 50 ozonizer. Anyone with this same set-up?

thanks

 

[Psionicdragon]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6407001#post6407001 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
mine runs 24/7 but is controll via acII if it gets above 425 it turns off. Which it never does I have found my tanks equalibrium

you are using an enaly?

 

[raddogz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6406052#post6406052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mobert
In addition to adding carbon at the skimmer output and all vent openings on my skimmer I fixed it so that my skimmer venturi draws air from the skimmer cup. I did this by drilling small holes in the skimmer cap and adding air line to the "T" that feeds the venturi. Now, any excess ozone will be recirculated in the skimmer. It really completely eliminated even the faintest odor for me. Same principal as Lifereef skimmers with their CVC. http://www.lifereef.com/frame.html

Do you have a picture of this mod?

 

[spyro]

Enaly and X10

Enaly and X10

Today I plugged in the Enaly 200 mg unit and also plugged in my X-10 meter/snooper. The minimum required signal for X10 is .1v which is the lowest on the meter's scale. The highest level on the meter is 6v.
Without sending any X10 signals over the line, the only thing that registers on the meter is noise and also the level of noise can be measured. I did not see any noise what so ever with the meter plugged into the same duplex outled as the Enaly. Then I sent an X10 ccommand to the unit and measured .4 volts. The last test I did was to go into the Octopus test menu and attempt to turn the Enaly unit, with address O-1, on and off. I successfully turned the unit on and off 5 times without any problem.

Give these results, I must conclude that the Enaly 200 mg ozone generator does not output enough power line noise to even register at the minimum X10 signal level and that the unit works fine under X10 control.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6404508#post6404508 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chadhender
So if the Enaly will not work with the X-10 which one should I buy. I have a 120 gallon with an octopus 3000

 

[Psionicdragon]

Re: Enaly and X10

Re: Enaly and X10

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6410393#post6410393 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spyro
Today I plugged in the Enaly 200 mg unit and also plugged in my X-10 meter/snooper. The minimum required signal for X10 is .1v which is the lowest on the meter's scale. The highest level on the meter is 6v.
Without sending any X10 signals over the line, the only thing that registers on the meter is noise and also the level of noise can be measured. I did not see any noise what so ever with the meter plugged into the same duplex outled as the Enaly. Then I sent an X10 ccommand to the unit and measured .4 volts. The last test I did was to go into the Octopus test menu and attempt to turn the Enaly unit, with address O-1, on and off. I successfully turned the unit on and off 5 times without any problem.

Give these results, I must conclude that the Enaly 200 mg ozone generator does not output enough power line noise to even register at the minimum X10 signal level and that the unit works fine under X10 control.

Spyro,

Thanks a bunch. I assume from what I just read and your conclusion, that the enaly does not effect the x10 commands. Can you double check your temp/ph/orp probs to see if they have eratic readings?

If you are running an enaly 200 mg ozone and you want it to run constantly on a 300 gal (not taking into displacement of water and sump), would that be possible at all? If so, how will this will be done? (.17 x 300 = 51mg)

 

[clkwrk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6408965#post6408965 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Psionicdragon
you are using an enaly?

Sorry Sander

 

[spyro]

Re: Re: Enaly and X10

Re: Re: Enaly and X10

Using an ORP controller means that you do not have to adjust the generator output. The controller will turn the gnerator on/off as needed to maintain a preselected ORP level. However, I run my reactor continuously with water passing through it regardless of the on/off state of the generator.

I would personally not run the generator without a controller but if you do then you should at least monitor the ORP continually to ensure you do not inject too much ozone. If you run it on a timer then I would do it only when you are home so that you can monitor the ORP levels in your tank.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6410482#post6410482 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Psionicdragon
Spyro,

Thanks a bunch. I assume from what I just read and your conclusion, that the enaly does not effect the x10 commands. Can you double check your temp/ph/orp probs to see if they have eratic readings?

If you are running an enaly 200 mg ozone and you want it to run constantly on a 300 gal (not taking into displacement of water and sump), would that be possible at all? If so, how will this will be done? (.17 x 300 = 51mg)

 

[spyro]

Also, I think that running ozone into a pressurized air-tight reactor is more effective and safer than running it into a skimmer.
I used aRainbow LifeGuard FB900 fluidized bed reactor filled with bioballs to increase contact time. I plumbed the ozone inlet at the bottom of the reactor by drilling a hole thru the supplied plug. I then pushed the Norprene hose into the reactor with an Enaly airstone connected at the end of the tube. Then I sealed the endcap with silicone and screwed it in to the reactor. In this way, the injected ozone makes contact with the water at the injection point...not with any fittings, etc. I use a second smaller carbon filled fB reactor FB600 in series with the primary reactor to uptake any residual ozone. So far I have gotten much clearer water, elevated ORP, and no escaped ozone (no smell). I also use a Denerle check valve at the output of the ozone generator to prevent water from getting into it. Even though the generator is higher than the reactor, the reactor is pressurized and as such would still allow water to enter the generator if no check valve was used. Not sure if the Denerle is ozone safe but an ozone safe one is on the way form an online shop.

 

[Sparkss]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6407134#post6407134 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by broe33
i run mine 24/7 with no carbon or air dryer. i have the biggest red sea unit so it is a bit overkill but i just turn it down. Gotta love crystal clear water and no algae.

With no air drier you are contaminating your tank with acid produced from the ozoner (when the air has moisture present). This has been noted by numerous experts and groups and is known to be toxic. I can't recall the exact acid that is created, but there was a thread with pictures of it having leeched copper from a brass fitting and eaten the fitting.

With no carbon on your outflow you are risking poisoning your tank with bromine bleach. This is created when ozone reacts with sea water. The GAC is not so much to catch the free ozone, which has a ver short lifspan in sea water, but is to filter out the bleach that you are essentially creating with it.

Both of these facts are well documented. Use the search feature and look them up.

Saying that you have not had any problems is the same as stating that you never wear your seatbelt and are still alive, therefore seatbelts are unnecessary.

I strongly suggest that anyone seriously considering ozone do their homework. Read and read and read. This thread alone contains alot of good information, for both DIY and technical data. Set aside the time, start from the beginning and read a couple of pages a day. You will be at the end in no time, and your tank will be the better for it.

Best of luck to everyone and Happy New Year