Yes!!!!!!!!! SPS Success with Leds! Come in and Share your Story!

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents and since I am new, you can take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I started this hobby just 4 months ago, I have 4 SPS now. 2 montipora, 1 acropora, and a green birdsnest. The montis started to bleach from the light when at the top of the tank, and grow like weeds mid tank. The birdsnest doubled in size in 2 months, great growth/color, and sits at the top in the middle (brightest spot) The surf n turf acro sits next to the birdsnest, and although small and new, shows signs of liking its placement/light.

Now...the big opinion. My first LED was a blue/white only and the bulbs were very concentrated, and the lenses were very narrow. I never ran them at full power, just 50%, cause I could bleach everything easy, and started to. I switched lights to a full spectrum Ocean Revive Arctic S026. Couldn't be happier with this light. It spreads the LEDs out across the whole tank, has a much wider lens, and I am able to run it at 80% of full power. I also keep it almost 12" off the surface of the tank, and I keep my tank covered with a lid. When you have a less concentrated LED bulb placement, it allows you to run your lights at a higher level. Any coral that is high up in the tank that is getting hit by a direct beam has a better chance of bleaching, hence why I chose to keep my fixture very high, and not blast at 100%. LEDs are just more powerful, and a much different light source than MH. (My experience with MH comes from a hobby other than reefing ;) ....but close)

When you run an LED, it shoots concentrated beams of light down and the water does not disperse it much. You really don't need a light meter unless you want to dial it in absolutely perfect.... I just put mine on to 75% and watched closely. If they start losing color, your lights are too bright, or certain coral is in the wrong spot. If they don't lose color, ramp it up little bits at a time until you find the sweet spot between losing color, and not enough light. Better safe than sorry, so I run mine low, and keep the fixture high, with glass in between. The glass, ability to dim, and fixture height is my safeguard against bleaching/loss of color (one in the same to me).

I might be a newb, but that seems like common sense to me. Just look at the posts and a lot of what I said is confirmed by peoples experience and comments. MH has a very very wide spread and a wide hot spot compared to LED's. Each LED is a hot spot, and spreading them out is crucial I think. The downside of course though, is that because each LED is a hot spot, my "full spectrum" light does not evenly share every spectrum with every part of the tank. I feel like that factor right there is what makes a MH fixture have a slight superiority when it comes to color/growth. With that said now, I think in the future, LEDs will take over the market and MH will be a thing of the past. Its just not perfected yet.

On another note, my LPS, softies, zoas and palys go nuts under the LED, but none can sit high in the tank. They all sit at the bottom, except a war coral in the direct middle, or if up higher, off to the sides.

Even with a short time in the hobby, you know and understand the technology. :thumbsup: Your understanding of LED and other light technologies is right along with how I understand it. :) Being a newbie doesnt matter if you take the time to read and understand the different aspects of the hobby. Some people can be in the hobby for years and still be more or less clueless...

Heres a pic of my tank.
Nice start to the hobby! :)
 
I don't know if everyone has seen this thread but I am shocked at the polling.
Must are running LEDs at a much lower intensity them I first thought.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22075437#post22075437

That makes sense. Nearly half of the voters are running at less than 60% intensity. LED's are so directional. A lot of the light goes straight down onto the coral. With halides for example, the reflectors send the light over a much greater area...a whole range of angles...

With LED's, a lot of the light is in the first 50 degrees...Look at the Cree XTE data sheet, and have a look at the Typical Spatial Distribution chart especially for the White Diodes...the Royal Blue is a lot better in this respect...probably why turning up the whites too much causes most of the bleaching etc.
 
My tanks lighting is LED...
I'm trying to make an attempt to grow out a SPS dominated tank using LED lightning...so far so good :)
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I have a 120g SPS tank that is all LED-lit. I get great growth, and great color. I'm not pushing for 500 PAR on the sand, and I didn't feel a need to get the fancy fixtures. I've been running 2 of the typical 120w fixtures over it with a couple cree's to add a tiny bit. No lenses, etc. I've been tinkering with LED colors for a couple years now and just ordered new LEDs (I'll post before / after pics when I get them), but basically, I loaded it with a variety of colors. Lots of royal blue and tv, some 4500 white, two shades of red, green, regular blue, and even some 590nm amber. In my experience, I've found that more colors (in moderation) have led to better and more diverse coral color.

I know one thing, nobody has come into my house for a solid year and looked at the tank and said "Nice tank, but too bad it isn't lit by halides."
 
I have a question for all, does UV led lights make a big differance in how the Sps responded as far as color goes? I have been thinking g hard and long about upgrading my radion G1 to the pro.
Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

PS reef noob simply spectacular keep the pictures rolling.
 
I have a question for all, does UV led lights make a big differance in how the Sps responded as far as color goes? I have been thinking g hard and long about upgrading my radion G1 to the pro.
Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

PS reef noob simply spectacular keep the pictures rolling.
Yes it's very important. Not uv but violets (410-420nm)
 
Speechless!
Hi tdb320reef,
Thanks a lot :)
Dude the tank is looking SIIiIk!
Hey Kevin,
Thanks a lot bro. The tanks doing okay. But just hoping the frags grow out faster lol

+1 on what kevin said!
I never had any good results with led but this tank is sick!!!
Hi glaukos,
Thanks a lot for the kind words. LEDs do work. But in keeping SPS lighting is only one of the many factors I feel. You will definately hav success my friend.

I have a question for all, does UV led lights make a big differance in how the Sps responded as far as color goes? I have been thinking g hard and long about upgrading my radion G1 to the pro.
Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

PS reef noob simply spectacular keep the pictures rolling.
Hi trueblackpercula,
Yes UV indeed helps colours. But as far as LEDs go I don't think there is true UV spectrum yet. The full spectrum LED systems are definately beneficial if you are looking to grow SPS corals.

Thanks a lot for the kind compliment for my humble attempt at reefing.
 
Morning All- I know it is 4AM but my Central Air went out and I am running the lights overnight (while it is cool). I need to completely replace the CA unit which is not going to happen until sometime this week.
This summer I had a couple of setbacks with the switch to Rox .08 carb and running too much which removed too much dissolved organics which is not good in a nitrate/phosphate absent ULNS. Simultaneously I had some low alk issues Kalk stirrer jammed up for a week with the incredible demand my tanks requires the margin of error need to be minimal, it dropped to 5ish. Both of these issues resulted in some Basel recession and coral bleaching. Unfortunately I had to break up a few large colonies like my red dragon.
On a better note I standardized on the evergrow lights and love the color. Below are some pictures of the recovery in progress and the incredible color these lights are providing. Another interesting fact is that these new lights are running much more efficient from 13 amps down to 8 for 12 fixtures at the usual par measurements.

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What an incredible tank. Makes me more comfortable since I have an LED fixture on the way.
 
@tdb320reef...
Stunning display of SPS corals and great variety!!!!
Definately TOTM material.
Please tell us more about the lights you are using...
Congrats on such a beautiful tank...Great job!!
 
There are some amazing tanks in here. I hope to one day have a tank half as nice. I'm ordering a new LED light for my 38g build. I have a smaller LPS/ Zoa tank that is exploding with life under a standard blue/white LED fixture. I can't wait to get a full spectrum fixture to grow my SPS.
 
I've been running a single razor 27" 160W 16k over my 48x24x14" tank for over 6 months now, color was very bad during the first few months, but things got better after i bought a dosing pump and stop messing with the scapes.

Some Before (when i just got it or when it turned brown) & After (taken few days ago) pictures

tri-color Birdnest. was half dead when my friend gave it to me to try. went in when tank was only 2 days old.
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Now
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a not-so-pink birdnest
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this growth took about 4-5 months
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green bali slimer, color looks awesome when i just got it (cultured piece)
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At one point, this piece went totally white with pale green polyps. right now the color is much more intense.
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Tri-color Valida. Small frag i got also many months ago. purple came and go.. when i was rescaping, it was brown with green polyps.
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Base fully encrusted, starting to send shooters out. color is deep purple now.
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Tri-color valida colony. aquacultured colony. Bought totally brown as an experiment if i can bring back the color. This was taken in august. brown with little purple tips.
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turns out to be a beauty!
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Deep water acro. bought with a nice intense green. Growth was much faster then expected.. just a short couple of months.
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Color kind of washed off and gained a little purple to it.
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a nice teal-green millie. color was pretty dull when i just got it.
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Now
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Radioactive birdnest
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fragged multiple times, fast grower
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FTS :
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