Jebao Cross Flow Pump

soulpatch said:
This is true but the ability to sell in the US would be hampered quickly with a simple injunction from Ecotech. no sense working to rip off a tech that you wouldnt be able to sell in a main market and could potentially get other products dropped as well.

Wireless communication and the tunze designs were open grounds so far as I know with no direct patents on any.
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This would involve long, drawn out lawsuit that would cost Ecotech nothing but money. A Chinese company doesn't care if a court in the US thinks what they are doing is illegal. Also it would involve customs checking all packages from China that may or may not have the patent infringing products in them... It's never going to happen. Laws in the US and rest of the world don't apply to China, because they simply don't care
 
If anyone wants or cares about my opnion anymore...

I think patents are anti-economy, drive up product costs, inhibit competition, retard technological growth and are generally bad if you support the idea of an entirely free market. All for the sole purpose of making a company or individual the maximum amount of money possible.

JMO
 
I disagree. A patent gives the inventor rights to protect their creation. If patent law did not exist it would be risky to put time, money and effort into an idea only to have it stolen. Consequently there would be less innovation and products created which would hurt the economy.
 
A patent is an economic tool.

Like any tool, how you use it REALLY matters.

If patents didn't exist, inventors and investors wouldn't innovate because they wouldn't be able to recoup their investment in a hyper commoditized market.

If patents were given for any new product and lasted forever, it would break the economy because whoever came first with anything would have a permanent monopoly.

The middle path is best... Balanced economic policy that protects the return on innovation investment without locking out natural commoditization over time
 
Tunze has patents, where did that stop china from copying them? Again china could care less about patents from other countries thats why there is so many copies of watches, hand bags, shoes, ect being sold in the US. They do catch some of the copies at customs but alot still get through and sold here.
 
China is a dynamic environment and they do care about patents. But they must be filed in China to be enforceable in China. US patents limit the ability to sell in the US, but that assumes that the copy infringes on the patent's claims, not just that the part looks like it does. The copier may have found a workaround or may have prior art that invalidates the claims.
 
Also you have to think about the fact that while the WP- grips were pretty obviously copies of the Tunze ball grip, they are no longer used on the RW- pumps (the grippers have a post in them, no longer rotate free). The Tunze design is much better than the RW- one, so did their patent get enforced on the grips after all? Or are WP- still being produced?

A wireless controller sync is not original enough for me to think that would be an enforceable patent though.
 
Oh no! And here I was hoping that nobody besides Maxspec would ever build something as cool as this.
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It was recently shown at the THE 19th CHINA INTERNATIONAL PET SHOW. The exhibition was held November 4-7, 2015 in Shanghai.

http://reefcentral.ru/forum/topic/21328-vystavki/

"Jebao / Jecod drew attention to just such a thing CP45. They will later be available in two variants 25/45 watts"

So I guess if everyone was at the 19th CIPS in Shanghai, one could have been picked up.
 
CuzzA said:
I disagree. A patent gives the inventor rights to protect their creation. If patent law did not exist it would be risky to put time, money and effort into an idea only to have it stolen. Consequently there would be less innovation and products created which would hurt the economy.
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That's right.. It also does not always stop competition because you can always pay the company or person to use their patent. If I have a patent on something I design I can allow other companies to use it for a fee. Also patents expire after a while.
 
Dmorty217 said:
This would involve long, drawn out lawsuit that would cost Ecotech nothing but money. A Chinese company doesn't care if a court in the US thinks what they are doing is illegal. Also it would involve customs checking all packages from China that may or may not have the patent infringing products in them... It's never going to happen. Laws in the US and rest of the world don't apply to China, because they simply don't care
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China companies go as far a stealing product they were hired to make. Happened to someone I know , He designed a product and hired a company in China to make this product. There is a cost to set up the machine or it was incorporated in the cost of the product based on the amount of product you buy or something like that. They basically went two for you one for us. His product he designed ended up on websites and ebay for way less than he paid. His product was needed too and he had other designs that were needed and after that he was out.
 
shred5 said:
China companies go as far a stealing product they were hired to make. Happened to someone I know , He designed a product and hired a company in China to make this product. There is a cost to set up the machine or it was incorporated in the cost of the product based on the amount of product you buy or something like that. They basically went two for you one for us. His product he designed ended up on websites and ebay for way less than he paid. His product was needed too and he had other designs that were needed and after that he was out.
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Not surprised by this at all. Some others were trying to argue that they aren't taking or trying to take intellectual property from Tunze, Ecotech, and most recently Maxspect and that somehow a patent would prevent them from copying products or that customs would stop them from being sold in the USA.:headwally:
 
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